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Observation haki
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Boa Hancock VS Gunvolt
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Well I don't see it on the profile, so it must not exist.
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When has Hancock shown Observaion Haki?
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Here on her Vivre card, should be obvious considering literally everyone on her island knows haki
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Make a CRT or something.
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I don't need too as it's already on her profile and that is how one piece profiles are done, instead of clunking it up with the same abilities making it messy it's linked back to the haki page and their profile states if they have it and what level of usage they have with it.
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Has Boa ever actually shown precog? Having an ability means jack all when you don't use it.
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No as she hasn't explicitly shown to use observation haki (non mentioned displays are harder to determine compared to Armament) but that doesn't dismiss the fact she has it.
Instead of trying to argue away the ability maybe you should argue how it would effect the battle or how gunvolt would counter it. (Sorry if this comes off as rude)
Instead of trying to argue away the ability maybe you should argue how it would effect the battle or how gunvolt would counter it. (Sorry if this comes off as rude)
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Gunvolt dosn't need to counter it. If she dosn't use it, then it's not a problem.
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She has it and like all observation haki users uses it in combat, the exception shouldn't be made with Hancock just because you don't have an argument to counter precognition in this thread.
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Just because she has it, dosn't mean she uses it. She clearly dosn't use it, so it's a non-factor.
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I'd like to hear the arguement for why "she clearly doesn't use it". Does the fact Whitebeard not being explicitly stated to use it mean he can't/wouldn't? Does this also apply to Marco as well?
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Show me a scan of Boa using precog. Then I'll consider it. Otherwise, it's a non-factor. End of story.
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Don't need to, it's an application of observation haki and as such she can use precog, characters with weaker observation that had just unlocked it were able to use precog, telepathy and Extrasensory perception just after unlocking it with no actual mastery/training. Luffy's first usage of observation (subconscious) was precog.
This doesn't require feats as it's an application of observation that even novices can use.
This doesn't require feats as it's an application of observation that even novices can use.
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If you disagree with this maybe you should make a CRT to revise how haki is treated on the wiki...
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If we don't see her use it, it's probably not in character
If it's not in character, then she won't use it in a blind 1v1 fight
If she won't use it in a blind 1v1 fight, then she won't use it here
How hard is this to understand?
She's as likely to use precog as Gunvolt is to use his ability to manipulate electricity to shut off the currents in her brain.
If it's not in character, then she won't use it in a blind 1v1 fight
If she won't use it in a blind 1v1 fight, then she won't use it here
How hard is this to understand?
She's as likely to use precog as Gunvolt is to use his ability to manipulate electricity to shut off the currents in her brain.
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Being honest, Hancock hasn't shown Haki. But she should totally scale to Sandersonia who can very well use the precognitive powers from Haki.
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She hasn't needed to use it =\= she doesn't use it in character.
Again the majority of characters with observation haki besides the strawhats (to show them off) or Katakuri and a few others don't have explicit showings of observation as it's a waste of time when the audience can be told they have observation and leave it at that.
Whitebeard is only confirmed to have observation haki, that doesn't mean he doesn't use it in character...
Hancock shouldn't have weaker observation haki than her sisters who are both inferior and younger than her.
Again the majority of characters with observation haki besides the strawhats (to show them off) or Katakuri and a few others don't have explicit showings of observation as it's a waste of time when the audience can be told they have observation and leave it at that.
Whitebeard is only confirmed to have observation haki, that doesn't mean he doesn't use it in character...
Hancock shouldn't have weaker observation haki than her sisters who are both inferior and younger than her.
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He hasn't needed to use it =\= He doesn't use it in character.
Again the majority of Azure Strikers besides Blade and a few others don't have explicit showings of turning off someone's brain currents as it's a waste of time when the audience can be told they have electricity manipulatoin and leave it at that.
Asimov is only confirmed to have electricity manipulation, that doesn't mean he doesn't use it in character...
Gunvolt shouldn't have weaker septima than other adepts who are both inferior and weaker than him.
Again the majority of Azure Strikers besides Blade and a few others don't have explicit showings of turning off someone's brain currents as it's a waste of time when the audience can be told they have electricity manipulatoin and leave it at that.
Asimov is only confirmed to have electricity manipulation, that doesn't mean he doesn't use it in character...
Gunvolt shouldn't have weaker septima than other adepts who are both inferior and weaker than him.
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Pathetic
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I still vote for Hancock. GV's AP advantage is negged and I dare to say Hancock is stronger than him. His limited resistance doesn't make her petrification less effective especially when it's very in-character to smash the stone to pieces.
How "teenager" is Gunvolt when related to women? Hancock would surely take advantage of her charms to distract him.
How "teenager" is Gunvolt when related to women? Hancock would surely take advantage of her charms to distract him.
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If you're going give Boa abilities she's never been shown to use, why shouldn't I do the same for Gunvolt?
Tell me. What's stopping Gunvolt from just shutting off her brain?
Tell me. What's stopping Gunvolt from just shutting off her brain?
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Not quite the same, I think.
Hancock does have Haki. One of the few users of the three types, in fact.
Oda doesn't depict Precognition in too many particular ways except when it's explicitly stated/the character faces Danmaku with ease/the character is looking into the future.
By scaling she's Proficient with it, but I don't rely on it to say she takes this anyway. Her skill and powers are enough.
Hancock does have Haki. One of the few users of the three types, in fact.
Oda doesn't depict Precognition in too many particular ways except when it's explicitly stated/the character faces Danmaku with ease/the character is looking into the future.
By scaling she's Proficient with it, but I don't rely on it to say she takes this anyway. Her skill and powers are enough.
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Idk make that argument if you want too as I'm not knowledgeable on Azure strikers, but this is an observation haki standard that is used as it's self explanatory in the series.
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Hancock should be proficient with her armament anyways considering she can use hardening haki on her snake + projectiles, so she can get stat amps from that.
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Azure Strikers can manipulate electrical currents. The brain uses electric currents. If you're going to say that Boa uses Precog IC just because she has it despite her never using it in the series, then I'll do the same by saying Gunvolt can just shut of somebody's brain and does so in character.
Now, tell me, how does Boa counter her brain being shut off from a distance?
Now, tell me, how does Boa counter her brain being shut off from a distance?
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No clue, but since you're blatantly admitting that he doesn't use it in character then it shouldn't be used.
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Yeah. And Boa dosn't use precog in character either. Do. You. See. My. ISSUE?!
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I also have to add that Haki is passive as long as the user stays calm (And I think that only applies to Future Sight, just look at Koby awakening Haki).
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Show me one scan, just one scan, that even remotely implies that Boa uses precog.
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You're issue is unfound as it isn't that Hancock doesn't use precognition in character it's that she hasn't been explicitly shown using it since all observation techniques are hard to display like calaca said. so not the same thing.
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Scans or it didn't happen.
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it doesn't require scans as that's how observation is.
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Show me proof that it's passive.
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I can provide scans of zoro and luffy who used observation unconciously for the first time which shows them using precogntion? although i doubt that's enough for you to care considering you didn't even know what observation was until it was brought up and explained...
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Using a move unconciously can just be reactions.
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Instinctive Reaction.
By the way, I believe you used a little bit of Ad Hominem there just now. You know. By calling my argument ******* stupid.
By the way, I believe you used a little bit of Ad Hominem there just now. You know. By calling my argument ******* stupid.
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It is because the cases are precogntion, it's explcitily stated to be seeing into the future when attributed to observation haki. And i'm aware i did but holy shit you're argueing for something you know nothing about and making assumptions just to disprove it.
What Calaca was referring to when Observation can be used passively (although this was to Coby's determent) and two users who literally just used it for the first time.
Again if you have an issue create a CRT, stop applying assumptions to things that are already accepted.
What Calaca was referring to when Observation can be used passively (although this was to Coby's determent) and two users who literally just used it for the first time.
Again if you have an issue create a CRT, stop applying assumptions to things that are already accepted.
