TYBW Anime is Canon

[Tdjwo]

Both are canon and this is a fact, the main point is that the anime is the final polishing of Kubo within its own story, and as Arc mentioned in the starting post, possibly a superior canon to the manga, due to the way it is being done, the author's involvement, the status of the ending of the manga. Separation from canon should only be cited if there is something very off the charts within the anime, and yet we could just ignore it and move forward with just one.

Everyone agrees that both are canon. If both are canon, then both MUST be used as canon in this site. The anime being the "final polishing" is in regards to Kubo extending the plot by adding new concepts like extra fights, scenes, etc. It's not like Kubo implied he was going to change already established feats or plotlines.

If contradicting feats doesn't occur in the anime, then yes, we can conclude both anime canon and manga canon are the same but if anime feats contradicts manga feats, then we can't combine both canons. It makes virtually no sense since both are supposed to be canon.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Tdjwo wylin rn bruh, I’ll read this tomorrow

 

[Tdjwo]

Tdjwo's owning me bruh

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Nerd stop gooning out on me bruh be real

 

[Tdjwo]

Nerd stop gooning out on me bruh be real

 

[AnimesFreak2]

Seems fine to me

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Shouldn't be a separate canon at all. It's the same story with more elaboration from the anime. Simply use both.

Don't know why this wiki is so afraid of just... accepting different medians as further sources for the same continuity, especially when it comes to adaptations of Japanese works.

The same thing happens with DBZ anime and DBZ manga, which are both adaptations, but there are some things added throughout the series, there is also the Naruto anime is a beautiful example.

 

[Tdjwo]

The same thing happens with DBZ anime and DBZ manga, which are both adaptations, but there are some things added throughout the series, there is also the Naruto anime is a beautiful example.

The anime only stuffs in Naruto are treated as non canon if I remember correctly.

 

[Hasty12345]

To my knowledge, Naruto didn’t have statements that bleach currently does

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

The anime only stuffs in Naruto are treated as non canon if I remember correctly.

Heck, Naruto is 99% full, with some more in-depth explanations than the manga, but I still think they're both complementary to each other lol

 

[Tdjwo]

To my knowledge, Naruto didn’t have statements that bleach currently does

Yes. Thats true. Excluding Naruto the last, the Naruto anime canon stuffs aren't stated to be an addition by Kishimoto

 

[Tdjwo]

Heck, Naruto is 99% full, with some more in-depth explanations than the manga, but I still think they're both complementary to each other lol

I believe Naruto anime canon scenes should be treated as canon like Boruto is since it almost never contradicts the manga, but that's not really relevant here.

 

[KingTempest]

Yall over here arguing about nothing

 

[Tdjwo]

Yall over here arguing about nothing

Mr. Know-it-all

 

[Guacamolefletcher]

If it was up to me, both mediums would simply be separate canons completely. It's the best way to make everyone happy.

There definitely will be a bleach anime community once we're done revising the manga. There's a lot of interesting stuff in the anime that radically changes the scaling

 

[Scottycj256]

There definitely will be a bleach anime community once we're done revising the manga. There's a lot of interesting stuff in the anime that radically changes the scaling

the ichigo yhwach fight:

 

[Guacamolefletcher]

the ichigo yhwach fight:

I'm talking about the old anime, and all the filler

the anime has a lot of statements that radically change the scaling of the series.

 

[Excellence616]

I agree with TYBW as canon.

Even if the anime gave a higher feats compared to the manga or if any new scene has a high feat, it doesn't change anything because it may be what Kubo forgot or wanted to add to the manga due him rushing it because of his health.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

There definitely will be a bleach anime community once we're done revising the manga. There's a lot of interesting stuff in the anime that radically changes the scaling

Wait for Yhwach to say he was planning to destroy 3 Planets

 

[StrymULTRA]

The same thing happens with DBZ anime and DBZ manga, which are both adaptations, but there are some things added throughout the series, there is also the Naruto anime is a beautiful example.

False equivalence asf. The continuities are are separated due to inconsistencies and sequels which made them separate canons completely.

 

[Metalballrun]

Inb4 Kubo makes changes in the anime that downgrades from manga feats.

OP makes sense. Separate canons feels a bit counterintuitive given it's made by the same person but it can work.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Yall over here arguing about nothing

Your thoughts on the OP?

 

[AppleLord]

Pretty sure it doesn't make any difference in his health if he showed a Multiversal statement/feat for a character in the manga rather than the anime. The only argument you could make is regarding the length of the manga rather than what important feats gets contradicted in the anime. If the feats in the anime differ from the manga, then it should be in a seperate canon. We do these for LN's and WN's and we also did this for DBS anime/manga.

Even if and that is a big if, they get separated, the anime will become the main canon and the manga will just be an outdated version of the creator's vision.

 

[KingTempest]

Your thoughts on the OP?

I didn’t voice my agreement? Oh well, I agree

 

[Deagonx]

I agree with Damage that it should be included, but that the manga should take precedence in discrepancies.

 

[Stryker861]

but that the manga should take precedence in discrepancies.

Any particularly reason why?

 

[Hasty12345]

I agree with Damage that it should be included, but that the manga should take precedence in discrepancies.

• manga was rushed
• Mangaka actively partakes in altering the script of the anime to ensure it meets his vision

manga takes precedence?

could you explain that logic?

 

[Hasty12345]

I think we as a community need to let go of the idea that the initial or primary work doesn’t always stay the primary work and adaptions in some instances are more complete and inline with the original vision of the author.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

I think we as a community need to let go of the idea that the initial or primary work doesn’t always stay the primary work and adaptions in some instances are more complete and inline with the original vision of the author.

I definitely agree with you

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

I think we as a community need to let go of the idea that the initial or primary work doesn’t always stay the primary work and adaptions in some instances are more complete and inline with the original vision of the author.

Based

 

[StrymULTRA]

This is not evem the 1st time when an adaptation/secondary work ends up becoming the main canon, FGO is the best example I can find.

 

[LordTracer]

Yeah, there’s literally no reason for the manga to take precedence over the anime.

 

[Deagonx]

@LephyrTheRevanchist @LordGriffin1000 @KingTempest

Can you clarify your view on whether the manga or anime would take precedence in the case of discrepancies? We certainly have enough agreement to consider it canon, but we need a firmer consensus on this matter. Myself and Damage believe the manga should take precedence as the original source material, Tracer believes the anime should. It'd help if we had a decisive vote one way or the other.

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

This is not evem the 1st time when an adaptation/secondary work ends up becoming the main canon, FGO is the best example I can find.

.fgo is not the main canon of the nasuverse btw
but if you still think the manga is the main canon, even though the anime was stated by kubo to be his complete vision... idk what to tell you

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

@LephyrTheRevanchist @LordGriffin1000 @KingTempest

Can you clarify your view on whether the manga or anime would take precedence in the case of discrepancies? We certainly have enough agreement to consider it canon, but we need a firmer consensus on this matter. Myself and Damage believe the manga should take precedence as the original source material, Tracer believes the anime should. It'd help if we had a decisive vote one way or the other.

Considering I explicitly state the anime > manga in the OP, and they agreed with the OP, unless they state otherwise they’re agreeing with anime > manga.

 

[Deagonx]

I don't agree with that, given that the main focus (and title) of the CRT was establishing it's canonicity. If the CRT was "TYBW anime adaptation takes precedence over original manga" I'd definitely agree, but in this case details like that are easily missed and it's best to seek clarity on it.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

I don't agree with that, given that the main focus (and title) of the CRT was establishing it's canonicity. If the CRT was "TYBW anime adaptation takes precedence over original manga" I'd definitely agree, but details like that are easily missed and it's best to seek clarity on it.

You don’t have to agree with it. Unless they specify otherwise (which they’re free to do) agreeing with my OP means they agree with my OP. It’s that simple. I spell it out in the OP, they can read.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

@LephyrTheRevanchist @LordGriffin1000 @KingTempest

Can you clarify your view on whether the manga or anime would take precedence in the case of discrepancies? We certainly have enough agreement to consider it canon, but we need a firmer consensus on this matter. Myself and Damage believe the manga should take precedence as the original source material, Tracer believes the anime should. It'd help if we had a decisive vote one way or the other.

The anime should take precedence.

 

[Deagonx]

The anime should take precedence.

Thank you for clarifying.

Unless they specify otherwise (which they’re free to do) agreeing with my OP means they agree with my OP. It’s that simple.

Like I said, small details like that are easily overlooked in a thread that is primarily about establishing canonicity. We all agree it's canon, but further clarity is needed about the precedence sub-issue.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Thank you for clarifying.


Like I said, small details like that are easily overlooked in a thread that is primarily about establishing canonicity. We all agree it's canon, but further clarity is needed about the precedence sub-issue.

It’s not a small detail. Stop presupposing they can’t read. Until they clarify they disagree with it, it’s assumed they agree with the OP. Since they said they did.