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Arc, what about the old anime will it also be canon?
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Not relevant here.
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What Lephyr said, keep non related questions to the general thread.
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@Arc7Kuroi; there is nothing wrong with Deagonx asking for clarity from the other staff members. Better to be safe than sorry.
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If you read what I said, I explicitly said that’s fine. I also said, until they say otherwise, it is assumed that by “I agree with Arc’s premise” that they agree with my premise. I pmed KT to clarify, I’m not being evil here
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Even when I first read it, I overlooked the notion of discrepancies, I primarily thought about it in terms of "he's gonna be adding more stuff, which is canon" and I'm fine with that, it wasn't until I read Damage's comment that I realized it was a point of contention. I'm sure others might have overlooked it too, so I can't cosign counting overall agrees as decisive for this specific issue given how easy it is to just focus on the main aspect of "new things will be added, which are canon" rather than "existing things might be changed, which should be seen as the primary canon."
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You overlooking =/= they must’ve also overlooked it. Clearly as demonstrated by Damage, Tracer, and Lephyr not having overlooked it.
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Currently there is no issue. The only issue was assuming they inherently didn’t understand the entire OP. Which that issue appears to be resolved.
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Not assuming they didn't, just recognizing the possibility that they may have since that aspect wasn't the focal point of the OP. I mean even the first line says "equal to, if not superior to" which leaves it somewhat vague rather than clearly asserting it as the primary canon up front.
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I agree with the TYBW anime being the primary canon (kinda surprised this wasn't officially clarified on the wiki sooner), this isn't just some leading question on Twitter to abuse WoG or something similar, the author is consciously making the definitive version of his saga/arc after initially being unable to fully tell the story he wanted for the repeated reasons above, it really isn't that deep.
Here's an analogy: an ill cook makes a dish but the 1st attempt only manages to be a 7/10 and it doesn't meet the cook's professional standards, so the cook decides to wait until he is well and along the way make some modifications with some new seasonings while core of the dish remains the same as a result the 2nd attempt is a 10/10 that meets the cook's the professional standards, so why would the 1st attempt be the one that permanently stays on the menu?
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Something that I forgot to mention is that the specific version of the anime that should take precedence is the Blu-ray version, since it's the one that's most final to Kubo's vision. Even after all the oversight, Kubo went and perfected it with that, and they changed some minor shit
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Yeah.
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Yeah albeit it’ll be a while before us English speakers get our hands on that
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To make my stance clear, I'm fine with the anime taking precedence over the manga given the situation but in the same lines of what I said before, this means that if something important is outright removed or switched (be it a feat, statement, scaling, or ability) in the anime, the orginal thing from the manga will be removed from the profiles as the anime is the improved version.
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As it should be.
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Yeah, I agree that if the anime retcons something, that the anime's version of the same scene would take precedence.
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Yeah gotta wait 18 more hours before it can be closed tho
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1 more step closer to bleach supremacy.
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Agreeing doesn't mean they had it in mind specifically from the jump. Regardless, it was necessary to get clarification and a proper vote on that point of contention. I don't mind being outvoted, but the generic agrees weren't enough to settle the matter by themselves.
With that said, assuming there isn't an unexpected influx of contrary votes, we can apply this after the waiting period.
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Yall still arguing about this shit -_-
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I haven't clicked on the links and the writing seems non-controversial already. Marvelous.
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No, the thread appears to be more or less concluded once the waiting period has ended.
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Absolutely
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Kubo was infamously ill during his writing of Bleach, and there have historically been scenes included in the anime which were meant to be in the manga but were cut due to his health causing time constraints, the most notable example being the episodes taking place in the Menos Forest, featuring the desolated Shinigami Ashido. These health issues were worse in the TYBW arc, and even caused the ending to be cut short. Kubo even admitted that several characters' entire endings were cut because he only had a few chapters he could finish and prioritized the main characters. This is why the survival of Kisuke Urahara, Yoruichi Shihoin and Grimmjow Jaegerjaques was never shown at the end of the manga. The ending was incomplete, so the anime is going to attempt to release a completed version of it.
So in short, I agree.
So in short, I agree.
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