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We did brought it earlier....
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Bleach- PTS Speed Downgrade
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I'm pretty sure youre aware that SS and LW are mirror each other. So it's not as if the light emitted by Soul Society's sun is gonna be made of matter.
I'm pretty sure youre aware that SS and LW are mirror each other. So it's not as if the light emitted by Soul Society's sun is gonna be made of matter.
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No i mean focus on that more in depth.
Thread has gone like 9 different directions
Thread has gone like 9 different directions
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Lol I made my reply clear. So whatever
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yours got like buried. Like I said. Thread went south
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Gonna repost this in case u missed it
Reishi
Reishi (霊子, Spirit Particles) is the main component material of Souls and all spiritual matter. Reishi composes the spiritual bodies of Souls, including Hollows and Shinigami, and everything in Hueco Mundo and Soul Society.[1][2][3] Reishi is invisible and intangible to mortals, with the...
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I saw it. Semi helpful. Ill check the links after class
thanks
thanks
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No problem
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Ohhhh so you want me to bump it again? Despite you asking the same question after I reposted it.
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Its fine. thread is calmed down now it seems
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the only remaining problem is reflection rules. There is not much work left with this place that will be evident in the title you opened
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Ye, he already opened a thread for that so now is waiting
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I more or less guess the outcome.
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I already proved repel can mean reflection. Which he claimed is in the raw scan
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you posted a single slide from a powerpoint without any context. in context it means why light is repelled off at the correct angle, with the correct setting and surface. You havent proved anything
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Looks like KingTempest made his own thread as well for the other requirement.
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wait wha
oh my
oh my
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Wtf nsmsmsmd
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TBH, I don't have an issue with still accepting this Beam of Light as Light Speed, I don't think you can get more blatant than a Beam of Light
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in regards to what its called, is that what you mean?
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I think it is relevant since the person I was responding to was arguing that Ceros = "spiritual light" because "light bends space". There are many examples of Cero behaving in ways decidedly unlike how light works and the same is true for other reiryoku and reishi-based techniques and abilities, as I also pointed out.
The same applies to Mask De Masculine's attack. Unless the beam actually burned into Renji's Zanpakuto (which it didn't), I doubt that an attack composed purely of light would leave behind that much smoke, or even fire, once it impacted with a sword and did nothing to the sword in question. Furthermore, the "Klang" sound effect definitely sounds like something physical impacting the blade.
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Again, the sound stuff was talked about and solved so irrelevant
And please stop commenting since we are waiting for other threads to be done so that this one can continue and we dont want this one to keep derailing more
And please stop commenting since we are waiting for other threads to be done so that this one can continue and we dont want this one to keep derailing more
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Let's ignore the sound thing for a minute and go by our standards.
The attack is called "beam of light". Fine. Now, we need something to support it being lightspeed because it being called a beam of light is not enough.
Even if we consider "he repelled my attack" as actual reflection, which I am okay with, it's still only one point.
Going by our standards, we need a "few" (at a minimum) supporting points to conclude that the beam is actually light speed. We only have one supporting point.
The beam is not shown to refract in a new material, such as a liquid or...
The beam is not called lightspeed by reliable sources
It is not stated to be made of photons or light itself, again by a reliable source
It does not have its origin at a realistic source of light, such as a camera
From what I am looking at, it does not meet the criteria to be classified as light speed in the first place. If there is something I am missing, tell me.
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It’s stated to be a light ray by the user himself of said ability. Even said Kanji confirms this. That’s two points I don’t see how you don’t see that when you claimed to have read said thread that agreed with it in the 1st place?
You only need 2 of the points minimum to be accepted.
If you have an issue with beam of light being used as a form of evidence take it up in the thread tempest made to clarify.
You only need 2 of the points minimum to be accepted.
If you have an issue with beam of light being used as a form of evidence take it up in the thread tempest made to clarify.
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Proof?
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Wow. Accusing me of not reading the thread while it seems you did not read the standards.
Most lasers in fiction are not real or provable as real. Often they are supernatural in nature and do not function anywhere close to how real light should. Therefore, lasers/light beams are only accepted as real if they meet, at a minimum, a few of these criteria:
Being stated by the character to be a beam of light is just the beginning. It means, you need additional points to support it. One of those points being reflection thing. The beam is not called light speed by other reliable sources, you cannot use the beginning point itself as one of the additional requirements to prove the same point lol
Most lasers in fiction are not real or provable as real. Often they are supernatural in nature and do not function anywhere close to how real light should. Therefore, lasers/light beams are only accepted as real if they meet, at a minimum, a few of these criteria:
- The beam refracts in a new material, such as a liquid or...
- The beam reflects off a material that it can be expected to, such as a non-magical mirror
- The beam is called lightspeed by reliable sources
- It is stated to be made of photons or light itself, again by a reliable source
- It has its origin at a realistic source of light, such as a camera
Being stated by the character to be a beam of light is just the beginning. It means, you need additional points to support it. One of those points being reflection thing. The beam is not called light speed by other reliable sources, you cannot use the beginning point itself as one of the additional requirements to prove the same point lol
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I read said standard and am familiar with it. I was in the thread that got it accepted in the 1st place.
Like I said if you have an issue with people using “beam of light” as a form of evidence to support then take it up in the thread Tempest made because you seem to be pretty much unaware as to how that is being used as a form of evidence for years.
How’d you think it got accepted in the 1st place by your fellow peers if this isn’t actually evidence? Or how dozens of other light calcs use the same thing I’m using?
Like I said if you have an issue with people using “beam of light” as a form of evidence to support then take it up in the thread Tempest made because you seem to be pretty much unaware as to how that is being used as a form of evidence for years.
How’d you think it got accepted in the 1st place by your fellow peers if this isn’t actually evidence? Or how dozens of other light calcs use the same thing I’m using?
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CFYOW isn't even written by Kubo go sit downBoth these scans are from cfyow volume 2
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As far as I can tell, you are misinterpreting the standards.
The page says in the first paragraph "This article will set forth the standards of this wiki in determining what is considered a real "light beam" and what to do once the feat has achieved that status."
The character said I am firing a beam of light. Okay. This is the point that establishes it being a beam of light. Now it has to go through the standards and fulfill it. To do so, it needs to satisfy a few other criteria at minimum. One of those criteria is reflection thing. Which is fine, but that's it. You can't use the first point again to say that it is stated to be made of light by a reliable source. In fact, stated to be light and stated to be made of light/photons are entirely different things. Do you get me?
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AKM, they thing being called "a beam of light" follows the fourth standard.
- It is stated to be made of photons or light itself, again by a reliable source
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I’m well aware being called light and being called photons aren’t the same thing. I’ve said it earlier myself. But you’re not getting the point at all.
This has been used as evidence for one of the listed types of evidence for years now and for some reason you’re ignoring this.
So as far as I can see you need to say something in that thread tempest made with the other staff and actually clarify the standards. You know the same ones that got said feat accepted in the 1st place by calc members and admins alike?
This has been used as evidence for one of the listed types of evidence for years now and for some reason you’re ignoring this.
So as far as I can see you need to say something in that thread tempest made with the other staff and actually clarify the standards. You know the same ones that got said feat accepted in the 1st place by calc members and admins alike?
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I am just going by the standards. It's not my fault people have not been following such standards strictly in the past, but two wrongs don't make a right.
That said, I will come back when that misunderstanding is cleared in Tempest's thread.
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Alright.
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Yet it is canon
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When did I say it wasn't?
He said Kubo wrote it, I said he didn't. I never said it wasn't canonBoth these scans are from cfyow volume 2
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Just to be sure, you agree that those are not the same things so that part can't be used as a supporting point? If your problem is that other verses are doing it, then those verses need to be looked at separately too.
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Well being called photons has more weight to it roughly the same as being called lightspeed imo.
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Agreed. But I don't think this beam has been stated to be made of photons. Nor stated to be lightspeed. Simply "light" by the character firing it himself, and it being deflected by a metallic weapon, which as I said earlier, I feel are insufficient points in support for something to be treated as legit light.
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