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That was an amazingly dishonest statement you just typed out right there. Seeing as a brand new Renji with no prior feat is the one who performed the said feat after he was greatly enhanced.
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Says the guy who took away everything that made it consistent.I think it's fairly inconsistent. Characters jump up to FTL speed from previously MHS+ or Sub-Rel speeds for no real reason.
Are the character(s) that preform the jump significantly stronger than those who preformed those feats? I know Bleach can have rather extreme and sudden power shifts within the same arc.Characters jump up to FTL speed from previously MHS+ or Sub-Rel speeds for no real reason.
Renji just went through the best training in the verse and this is his first featI think it's fairly inconsistent. Characters jump up to FTL speed from previously MHS+ or Sub-Rel speeds for no real reason.
YesAre the characters that jump significantly stronger than those who preformed those feats?
You mean the guy who was in the inaccessible Speed thread and made a statement about how Infinite Speed is the same level for everybody no matter the time frame? Which is like saying that everyone who performs a 100 meter dash at different times has the same speed.I'll let DontTalk clarify that specific requirement in that other thread because he is the most related to those standards, I believe. Personally I believe simply being called a beam of light isn't enough and you need to satisfy the 4th requirement outside of that by stating it is made of photons/light. But I will concede on this point as per the clarification in that other thread, whatever that may be.
I still have issues regarding the statement's validity as I don't think a statement like that should be taken literally, and there not being enough evidence for a verse where nothing else comes close to this.
I wasn't even referring to Renji.Renji just went through the best training in the verse and this is his first feat
What are you referring to then, Characters jump off of renjis feat.I wasn't even referring to Renji.
The one who's being discussed in the thread is Renji and he's essentially setting a new baseline of powerI wasn't even referring to Renji.
I said earlier in the thread that I'd drop the outlier argument because I wanted to make my own arguments concerning the current scaling first. So I'll leave it at that for now until the discussion on whether this is a valid feat is resolved first.Then who are you referring to?
You're the only one in this thread who is bashing Damage when it was already stated earlier in the thread to stop.If you apply this headass logic to everything then everything becomes a outlier. Damage, stop being a hardhead. They literally jump tiers like every time within the same arc, if we go by your logic then Dragon Ball can't become Relativistic in the King Piccolo Arc because nobody else was even close to that speed
Yeah I should, otherwise I might actually blow a fuse cause this really is starting to get really annoyingDangai, can you chill out a bit?
As for the rest of you I recommend waiting a minute before you post a response to Damage since you're all asking him the exact same question multiple times.
Why does half of the verse scale to someone's god tier training...?But ...... it’s Renji’s feat. And everyone who scales to this feat, scales so far above the rest of the people < Renji, it isn’t funny.
Yeah Yeah I know, leave that to Discord where we can solve it betterYou're the only one in this thread who is bashing Damage when it was already stated earlier in the thread to stop.
At least the others are trying to prove a point, you're just bashing.
Not half the verse. Only the ones that matter.Why does half of the verse scale to someone's god tier training...?
Via fighting one another and scaling. And it's not half the verse not that it would matter as long it's legit.Why does half of the verse scale to someone's god tier training...?
there is no problem with that the whole universe is scale from success of orihime in the same wayWhy does half of the verse scale to someone's god tier training...?
Not half the verse. Only the ones that matter.
Via fighting one another and scaling. And it's not half the verse not that it would matter
there is no problem with that the whole universe is scale from success of orihime in the same way
Yes. Your incredulity means nothing in the face of feats.Renji literally got 100x faster and the explanation is "he trained". Really?
Yeah, Renji trained, not the randoms who hit FTL out of nowhere.Also, he didn't just train. He was given an exclusive type of training, fully awakened his zanpakuto, given special gear, given special food to further boost his power.
Go upgrade Mayuri for me then pleaseAlso high hypersonic is the first arc, how is that a response
ScalingYeah, Renji trained, not the randoms who hit FTL out of nowhere.
He already is high hypersonic, if you are referring to tybw, he is already ftlGo upgrade Mayuri for me then please
That's literally the only time Nemu does ANYTHING in tbe series, Mayuri makes a bunch of modifications to keep up, Zangetsu is Ichigo's source of power. Ichigo is literally a part of the God Tiers. Also 42 characters? You do realize Bleach introduces that amount of characters in a lot of Arcs with the exception of the Fullbring Arc? Heck the Arrancar Arc shoves almost 100 characters right away. Stop using incredulityIchigo.
Orihime.
Uryu.
Kisuke.
Yoruichi.
Oetsu.
Ichibe.
Aizen.
Byakuya.
Shunsui.
Shuhei.
Toshiro.
Zaraki.
Mayuri (he was High Hypersonic prior).
Nemu (-_-)
Rukia.
Shinji.
Kensei.
Harribel.
Grimmjow.
Nelliel.
Luppi.
Yhwach.
Jugram.
Perdina.
Askin.
As Nodt.
Loltotto.
Bazz-B.
Gerard.
Meninas.
Candice.
Giselle.
Ginjo.
Shukuro.
Tokinada.
Aura.
Hikone.
Reio.
Zangetsu.
Hikone.
Yushiro.
42 characters matter, not even including the separate keys.
42 characters who hit FTL out of nowhere when like 15 of them were high hypersonic.
Renji literally got 100x faster and the explanation is "he trained". Really?
many of them are new characters who were introduced in the same arc or even after itYeah, Renji trained, not the randoms who hit FTL out of nowhere.
and I'm asking to treat TyBw the same, both were clearly a war so will have so much characters fighting and scaling to each otherIsn't the Tournament of Power like 80 characters shoved in?
prove that the statement is wrong by anti feats, do you have?? NoJust being called Beam of light is far too insignificant.
To get an example there is a character named mifune in Naruto who has an attack called that. It's a simple sword swing.
Even disregarding something like that you have no way to prove it's going at light speed off of just a statement like that