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That was an amazingly dishonest statement you just typed out right there. Seeing as a brand new Renji with no prior feat is the one who performed the said feat after he was greatly enhanced.
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Bleach- PTS Speed Downgrade
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Says the guy who took away everything that made it consistent.
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Are the character(s) that preform the jump significantly stronger than those who preformed those feats? I know Bleach can have rather extreme and sudden power shifts within the same arc.
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Renji just went through the best training in the verse and this is his first feat
Arcker123
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Yes
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I'll let DontTalk clarify that specific requirement in that other thread because he is the most related to those standards, I believe. Personally I believe simply being called a beam of light isn't enough and you need to satisfy the 4th requirement outside of that by stating it is made of photons/light. But I will concede on this point as per the clarification in that other thread, whatever that may be.
I still have issues regarding the statement's validity as I don't think a statement like that should be taken literally, and there not being enough evidence for a verse where nothing else comes close to this.
I still have issues regarding the statement's validity as I don't think a statement like that should be taken literally, and there not being enough evidence for a verse where nothing else comes close to this.
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If you apply this headass logic to everything then everything becomes a outlier. Damage, stop being a hardhead. They literally jump tiers like every time within the same arc, if we go by your logic then Dragon Ball can't become Relativistic in the King Piccolo Arc because nobody else was even close to that speed
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You mean the guy who was in the inaccessible Speed thread and made a statement about how Infinite Speed is the same level for everybody no matter the time frame? Which is like saying that everyone who performs a 100 meter dash at different times has the same speed.
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I wasn't even referring to Renji.
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Then who are you referring to?
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What are you referring to then, Characters jump off of renjis feat.
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The one who's being discussed in the thread is Renji and he's essentially setting a new baseline of power
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I said earlier in the thread that I'd drop the outlier argument because I wanted to make my own arguments concerning the current scaling first. So I'll leave it at that for now until the discussion on whether this is a valid feat is resolved first.
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But ...... it’s Renji’s feat. And everyone who scales to this feat, scales so far above the rest of the people < Renji, it isn’t funny.
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Dangai, can you chill out a bit?
As for the rest of you I recommend waiting a minute before you post a response to Damage since you're all asking him the exact same question multiple times.
As for the rest of you I recommend waiting a minute before you post a response to Damage since you're all asking him the exact same question multiple times.
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I guess he's talking about post blood war novel characters.
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You're the only one in this thread who is bashing Damage when it was already stated earlier in the thread to stop.
At least the others are trying to prove a point, you're just bashing.
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Yeah I should, otherwise I might actually blow a fuse cause this really is starting to get really annoying
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Why does half of the verse scale to someone's god tier training...?
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But as Anon stated is has no bearing on the original feat in the 1st place. Only Renji matters.
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Yeah Yeah I know, leave that to Discord where we can solve it better
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Not half the verse. Only the ones that matter.
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Via fighting one another and scaling. And it's not half the verse not that it would matter as long it's legit.
Mind you we went through 2 speed scaling revisions.
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there is no problem with that the whole universe is scale from success of orihime in the same way
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Ichigo.
Orihime.
Uryu.
Kisuke.
Yoruichi.
Oetsu.
Ichibe.
Aizen.
Byakuya.
Shunsui.
Shuhei.
Toshiro.
Zaraki.
Mayuri (he was High Hypersonic prior).
Nemu (-_-)
Rukia.
Shinji.
Kensei.
Harribel.
Grimmjow.
Nelliel.
Luppi.
Yhwach.
Jugram.
Perdina.
Askin.
As Nodt.
Loltotto.
Bazz-B.
Gerard.
Meninas.
Candice.
Giselle.
Ginjo.
Shukuro.
Tokinada.
Aura.
Hikone.
Reio.
Zangetsu.
Hikone.
Yushiro.
Orihime.
Uryu.
Kisuke.
Yoruichi.
Oetsu.
Ichibe.
Aizen.
Byakuya.
Shunsui.
Shuhei.
Toshiro.
Zaraki.
Mayuri (he was High Hypersonic prior).
Nemu (-_-)
Rukia.
Shinji.
Kensei.
Harribel.
Grimmjow.
Nelliel.
Luppi.
Yhwach.
Jugram.
Perdina.
Askin.
As Nodt.
Loltotto.
Bazz-B.
Gerard.
Meninas.
Candice.
Giselle.
Ginjo.
Shukuro.
Tokinada.
Aura.
Hikone.
Reio.
Zangetsu.
Hikone.
Yushiro.
42 characters matter, not even including the separate keys.
42 characters who hit FTL out of nowhere when like 15 of them were high hypersonic.
Renji literally got 100x faster and the explanation is "he trained". Really?
Arcker123
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Yes. Your incredulity means nothing in the face of feats.
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I mean they're in the middle of a war and virtually everyone has interacted with each other in said war.
Also, he didn't just train. He was given an exclusive type of training, fully awakened his zanpakuto, given special gear, given special food to further boost his power.
Don't get the high hypersonic point since it's all mostly just slapped rating scaling from Orihime in SS arc.
Also, he didn't just train. He was given an exclusive type of training, fully awakened his zanpakuto, given special gear, given special food to further boost his power.
Don't get the high hypersonic point since it's all mostly just slapped rating scaling from Orihime in SS arc.
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Yeah, Renji trained, not the randoms who hit FTL out of nowhere.
Go upgrade Mayuri for me then please
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KingTempest what are you talking about lol. Did you even read any justifications?
Arcker123
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Scaling
He already is high hypersonic, if you are referring to tybw, he is already ftl
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That's literally the only time Nemu does ANYTHING in tbe series, Mayuri makes a bunch of modifications to keep up, Zangetsu is Ichigo's source of power. Ichigo is literally a part of the God Tiers. Also 42 characters? You do realize Bleach introduces that amount of characters in a lot of Arcs with the exception of the Fullbring Arc? Heck the Arrancar Arc shoves almost 100 characters right away. Stop using incredulity
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many of them are new characters who were introduced in the same arc or even after it
let me ask you, how many characters did u get at universal in the tournament of power in Dragon ball?
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Isn't the Tournament of Power like 80 characters shoved in?
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and I'm asking to treat TyBw the same, both were clearly a war so will have so much characters fighting and scaling to each other
look at the list he put there are like 20 characters who were introduced in the TYBW OR CFYOW, they are new characters, how can he claim that they reached that out of nowhere or whatever his point
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I am still in agreement that "Beam of Light" is enough justification for Light Speed
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Just being called Beam of light is far too insignificant.
To get an example there is a character named mifune in Naruto who has an attack called that. It's a simple sword swing.
Even disregarding something like that you have no way to prove it's going at light speed off of just a statement like that
To get an example there is a character named mifune in Naruto who has an attack called that. It's a simple sword swing.
Even disregarding something like that you have no way to prove it's going at light speed off of just a statement like that
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prove that the statement is wrong by anti feats, do you have?? No
is the statement supported by another thing? Yes the reflection
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I said it before and I’ll say it again.
“Beam of Light” can refer to many different things that generate light but are not natural light, and only the latter is considered light speed as opposed to light given off from another source.
Getting a “beam of light” claim and stopping there shouldn’t count as anything. It’s the claimers burden of proof to prove “Beam of light” equates to being made out of actual natural light.
By giving actual details and context.
“Beam of Light” can refer to many different things that generate light but are not natural light, and only the latter is considered light speed as opposed to light given off from another source.
Getting a “beam of light” claim and stopping there shouldn’t count as anything. It’s the claimers burden of proof to prove “Beam of light” equates to being made out of actual natural light.
By giving actual details and context.
