Bleach Bankai General Discussion 15

[AppleLord]

Just like DBZ.

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

Got 3 more parts left to translate guys, we're almost there.

 

[KazuiK]

IMade debunked this. This is what he said:

That is a mistranslations, someone forgot the ` located on the second kanji which has it read as Four Way Sanri, 3 Ri radius basically.

So it is 3 Ri after all.

Thanks

 

[Sekkonds.]

Got 3 more parts left to translate guys, we're almost there.

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[Dangai_Ichigo]

Does anyone have the Ichigo slicing Senbonzakura calc ? Both Manga and Anime if possible

 

[AppleLord]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...f_Darkness_(new_palace_calc_by_Raven_Supreme)

 

[The_mysterious_man]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:KinkiestSins/Yamamoto_burns_things?comments_page=1 And this https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:USklaverei/Bankai_Yama Both of these calc are in the limbo and it need to be redone with the new size of ss the whe will make

 

[Dangai_Ichigo]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:KinkiestSins/Yamamoto_burns_things?comments_page=1 And this https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:USklaverei/Bankai_Yama Both of these calc are in the limbo and it need to be redone with the new size of ss the whe will make

...A surprise for sure but a welcome one

 

[Naeblis495]

Does anyone have the Ichigo slicing Senbonzakura calc ? Both Manga and Anime if possible

i would like that very much too

i mean , blocking thousands if not millions of blades in a few moments must count for something

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

It's difficult to calc I think. Can be like mach 100 all the way to even sub-rel.

 

[Zezu1995]

didnt someone agree on it being a shockwave -We all know he cut all of them byakuya even said it but it would be way too high-

 

[Naeblis495]

and once again a feat and statement for bleach is given the oUtLiER treatment

 

[Dangai_Ichigo]

didnt someone agree on it being a shockwave -We all know he cut all of them byakuya even said it but it would be way too high-

Maybe... But we already some really high stuff later to ignore (COUGH COUGH AARONIERO)

If I recall Ichigo sliced up all the petals in 2 seconds and in one frame it had something around 22 or more slashing motions from what I could count. This is for the anime only, the manga is a whole other can of worms

 

[AnonymousBlank]

At this point we should make it composite Ichigo so none of these are "outliers".

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

@Imade, we got the lilotto Sub Rel+ calc accpeted so, i was wondering if you can help provide a list of those who scale?

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

Well pretty much everyone will likely scale honestly...not sure about the previous arcs though since the old calc was backwards scaled as well I think.

 

[IMadeThisOn8-1-2017]

Are we assuming all Stern Ritter are equivalent to Liltotto in speed?

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

Are we assuming all Stern Ritter are equivalent to Liltotto in speed?

We don't have anything to go off of for most of them tbh, is there anyone particularly "slow"?

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

What's the mach value for the calc?

 

[Dangai_Ichigo]

What's the mach value for the calc?

Which one ?

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

For the liltotto feat.

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

0.07c=Mach 61669.38

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

Thanks

 

[AnonymousBlank]

We know Litotto is one of the stronger Ritters and was the only one to actually dodge Auswhalen by herself, even saving GiGi despite everyone having seen the lights raining down. Maybe the others backscale a bit?

 

[Zezu1995]

didnt bazz B blitz all of them with blazing finger?

 

[HST_Master]

didnt bazz B blitz all of them with blazing finger?

iirc he sniped them all when he and the other 3 Sternritter showed up. They got up in fighting shape tho.

 

[The_mysterious_man]

also this need to be redone with the new size https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U..._a_Falling_City_(hopefully_the_last)_-_Bleach

 

[IMadeThisOn8-1-2017]

I made a blog using the new Seireitei size TataHakai came up with using only statements and Gremmy's new meteor AP using only statements as well.

I genuinely prefer this method of only using statements. It'll make future CRTs and calcs consistent and easier like Las Noches size and the Cero/LDR calcs.

 

[Peter1129]

So just making sure these are all the calcs we are going to use to scale the characters right?

Chad's crater (8-A) (Scales to Soul Society Arc Chad and Base Uryu)

Ikkaku tanks stuff (7-C+) (Scales to lieutenants)

Shikai Toshiro's storm (7-A) (Scales to Soul Society Arc Shikai Captains)

Ulquiorra's Cero Oscuras (6-C and High 6-C) (Scales to most Arrancar Arc characters)

Lanza del Relampago (TBD) (Scales majority of the Post-Timeskip characters and maybe all top tiers if the new meteor calc is lower than it and this isn't considered an outlier)

Gremmy Meteor (TBD) (Scales to all top tiers)

Casual Yhwach lifting Wandereich (5-C) (Only scales to Merged Hollow True Shikai Ichigo)

 

[IMadeThisOn8-1-2017]

Kinda, there's obviously some exceptions and then we have the potential multipliers and updates to these calcs like Cero Oscuras depending on a Las Noches recalc.

 

[Ovy7]

There's also the Urahara Hado #99 calc (High 6-C for one dragon, Low 6-B for all five dragons) which I think should scale to the top tiers.

 

[Peter1129]

That calc is likely going to be useless. Urahara scales to the Lanza del Relampago since he's on par with Base Aizen. And the Lanza del Relampago is supposed to be somewhere in the 6-B range.

Also wasn't there a High 6-C feat for Post-Timeskip Toshiro? Is that calc usable or not? Cause that would help a lot with the Post-Timeskip character scaling.

 

[Soldier_Blue]

Lanza del Relampago was pegged at Large Island level+ in one of my calcs. And it had a lot of input from Kepekley.

 

[Peter1129]

Wasn't that the old calc? I heard people say the new Lanza del Relampago will be 6-B if we use the new size of Hueco Mundo. Cause that how the Cero Oscuras went from 6-C to High 6-C

 

[AnonymousBlank]

Didnt that calc use an old LN size? I remember the height being used only being a third of the currently accepted size. Though that will change anyway if we move over to statements only.

 

[Dangai_Ichigo]

Do you think it can be higher and still be reasonable ?

 

[Soldier_Blue]

Oh, yeah. I forgot about that. My bad.

 

[Dangai_Ichigo]

And there is still the anime stuff

 

[The_mysterious_man]

maybe you needs to redo the cero calc also because I have heard that they are going with the statement to determine las Noches size right now

 

[Peter1129]

One at a time. We should fix the manga first before moving onto the anime. Anyways here's an incomplete rough draft revision I made. I want to see if there are things people disagree with. Many of them still don't have tiers because the old calcs such as Gremmy's meteor are no longer usable and we don't have anything to scale the Post-Timeskip captains to just yet.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1M6hp7vqppgL7x1FD3RElRvM03yJ8YfbRTo5zMLndeBA