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Black Clover Discussion Thread ED 4: Best ED (Happy New Year!)

Ionliosite said:
You seriously want to make an important CRT literally 2 days before the forum lockdown? Great idea guys.
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It's a great idea when no one was talking about doing it on this site.

You're literally no help with this comment
 
Postulations from me:

This is about the Anti-Magic Demon btw, Atom 1.

On Chapter 197 page 16, Zagred said the other devil isn't resonating with my magic as Asta's power resonates with Zagred's which allowed him to further more push his anti magic power further.

In Chapter 208 and 205, Nero confirms that she doesn't know how the Anti-Magic Demon got into Licht's grimore. She was protecting the book for 500 YEARS fam, But she initally fell asleep and turn into a bird due to using forbidden magic.

In chapter 243, Lucifer knew Zagred leaving the underworld 500 years ago as he made his plan recarnation in chapter 205, meaning the Anti-Magic Demon could have also left 500 years ago to enter the book when Nero was asleep.

The Anti-Magic Demon needs a person with no mana to incarnate himself into into the human world. Either he simply waited for a magic less vessel and found Asta by pure coincidence OR he knew Asta of becoming his only possible vessel by manipulating the situation. Remeber when Asta was about to fall in despair in episode 1 or chapter 1? Until Yuno came and save him. The Anti-Magic Demon found him due to Asta feeling that and being mana less.

In chapter 209, Nero had to find the book again and where Asta was and she admits she was approaching him, using him to his plans to revive the Lumiere and stop the Devil. Asta's grimore teleported to him so that means Nero wasn't protecting the grimore at all time. It hasn't been explanined on how Asta's grimore slipped in like that in chapter 1.

Nero could be unaware of Anti-Magic Demon as he likely manipulated a future she wasn't aware of and therefore he slipped in without her knowing. The only way Anti-Magic Demon could get a vessel is to possess Asta because he is mana less. If he were try to escape the underworld without a magicless vessel, he would straight up DIE due to his nature being Anti-Magic.

Asta was left at the church in the same time as Yuno. His mother or father must have name him. In chapter 242, right before Asta went berzerk, he saw a flashback of his mother but with a wound to the stomach and when he saw Gauche which triggered a memory as history is repeating itself. Asta's mother must have died in the Spade Nation betrayel as a socratics family did to end up as the same church as Yuno.

Asta's Anti-Magic kills life-force such as flowers in chapter 96, Even in volume 16.5, in the cover, we see the duality of Asta and Yuno as Asta represent's the Tree of Death and Yuno represent's the Tree of Life which is based on the Kabbalah. Doesn't it link why Asta could survive Zagred's magic? In Chapter 205, we learned from Nero that using forbidden magic causes you to pay a price and ceases to be human. The only being's that don't pay a price is Devil's themselves.

Gordon's father confirmed that Asta is not cursed at ALL! Now why doesn't Asta pay a price for using a Devil's power unlike other Devil user's?

Asta's name can be dervived from Austin Roth in demonology is the Duke of Hell in first hierarchy with Lucifer and he's part of the evil trinity. He is also showcased as one of the Demon's in the Tree of Death that Dante mentioned in Chapter 246!

Anti-Magic Demon is similar to Asta as they are born and be called low tier.
 
The newest episode came out, and it's a rather simple, but enjoyable episode in my opinion. It probably counts as the beginning of the training arc, so episode 130 and onwards is canon.

The episode does support the idea of Jack and Yami being comparable even after the Elves Invasion, so Jack should likely get a Post Elves Invasion key just like Yami with similar ratings to him.

Also, shouldn't Yami's first key be At least 7-B, likely higher instead of Likely 7-B via the fact that he's way stronger than Base Asta and likely Pre-Elves Black Asta?
 
  • Vanessa in the latest chapter confirms that Dante just used a whole different magic power so this could mean he can steal magic powers, or the devil having his own. If this is true, this could mean the WHOLE DARK TRIDE has 2 magic of their own. Asta in the future will possibly have 2 magic!
I thought about it, but it is possible that one is Dante's magic and one Demon's. Asta has no magic so use only Demon's.
 
Speed wise: Base Luck<Reinforcement Magic<Mana Skin<Lightning boots<Lightning Armor<Lightning Armor with a halo<=True Magic?
 
So, not only his previous amps allowed him to blitz people that were comparable to him, but now his true magic is so fast that it outspeeds instinctive reactions? Damn
 
Shouldn't Licht have way more resistances and elves in general? Cureses, Paralysis/Petrification, and the transfiguration/manipulation of his soul and body?
 
We have several instance in manga were the lingering effects of a curse such as with William and Charlotte were ignored or down right nulled due to the presence of an elf. I think this alligns witht the whole idea of the eleves being the only ones mastering the use of the magic stones even tho it warps the very soul, form and magic of an individual all together?

In the case of paralysis Rhya outright stated this:

https://v217.**********.com/manga/Black-Clover/0151-012.png

and the effects of Zora magic as we know also invovles effeects such as petrification for what it's worth.
 
Epsilon R said:
Speed wise: Base Luck<Reinforcement Magic<Mana Skin<Lightning boots<Lightning Armor<Lightning Armor with a halo<=True Magic?
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Kind of funny that real lightning is faster than most of that list.

Makes his base self scaling to FTL look really, really weird now.
 
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