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Existence erasure? Would that help.?
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Bill vs. Asriel rematch
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Also Asriel has information manip and memory manip to wipe Bill's mind clean.
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Bill clearly loses here. Probably loses to a Goomba as well.
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Will Asriel vs Rimru be a stomp? I'm pretty sure Causality Manipulation is useless against 4-D beings.
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Existence erasure was how Bill was canonically defeated.Apatheticskell said:
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Grace is over and this can now be added.
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I think Bill could win this. Because the 2-A thing, Bill can technically one-shot Asriel, though I don't know if Azzy's type 4 counters that. Bill's Causality, Law, and Physics mania would be able to Affect Asriel because he accomplishes his 2-A feat through those abilities. Bill's precognition will also let him to know exactly what Asriel will do, so he can get by most of the goats haxxes. And Bill still has Low-Godly, though it is soul based.
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Asriel can one-shot Bill with soul hax.
Bill's causality, law, and physics manipulation aren't combat applicable.
Bill's causality, law, and physics manipulation aren't combat applicable.
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Bill's precog isn't even that good either.
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The only thing Asriel does with his Soul Manipulation is attack a person's SOUL, not manipulate or destroy it. And since Bill's regen is from his mind, Asriel can only bypass it through EE. And Bill's precognition allows him to see at least 40 years into the future via him knowing Soos's death, and trust me, this fight won't last 40 years. Also, as I said, Bill's 2-A feat is done *through* Causality, Law, and Physics Manip, so he can just destroy the multiverse with those, and Asriel along with it.
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Asriel can destroy an enemy's soul; that's kind of what happens oin the game when your HP reaches 0, your soul is shattered in a bunch of pieces.
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He can only do this by hitting an enemy so often. And Bill ccould still transmutate Asriel into a tapestry.
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First you say he regens from his soul then it's his mind. Which is it?
Bill's precog didn't save him from being erased.
Bill's precog didn't save him from being erased.
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I only said it because someone else said it was soul based and Edward corrected me. Did you read the comments?ShadowWarrior1999 said:
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PISShadowWarrior1999 said:
Madoka's omniscience didn't save her from Homura. Does that mean she doesn't have it?
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CMG Homura is also a type 4 acausal, which blocks precog.
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Homulilly has it too.
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Bill have almost no wincon in this, even with the slight revisions. His haxes only do much as tickle Asriel due to not being able to affect 4D and up characters. I even doubt he can even oneshot Asriel. The only notable one-shot feat was Time Baby, whom I consider fodder material compared to other Tier 3 and up entities.
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Remind you, even 4D beings are ranked as High 3-A.
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Yea, 4D beings whose potency is not at universal level.Unoriginal Memes said:
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>When there's a note on Bill's profile specifying that his hax is useless on a 4D level.
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When was Asriel even 4-D lol?
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Ye Asriel is 3D with 4D powers.
But so is Time Baby.
But so is Time Baby.
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Then literally *all* of Bill's haxxes should work, meaning he should win.Edwardtruong2006 said:
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Here's the thing, I highly doubt Bill's 2A range because of what my previous comment stated earlier, and because he hasn't shown solid evidence to confirm that he could actually do it, and even if he did, I figured it may take loads of time, which Asriel definitely isn't giving.
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Also the multiverse is infinite. Even if he did it little by little, he would still have 2-A range.
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But we always go by the profiles. ALWAYS.
Doesn't necessarily mean they're ƒÆ» correct.
Doesn't necessarily mean they're ƒÆ» correct.
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Read the comment above yours.
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Asriel can just memory wipe Bill and Erase him.
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And Bill can just turn Asriel into a tapestry. It really comes down to who attacks first.Apatheticskell said:
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^Saikou The Lewd King said:
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Asriel doesn't have consciousness anymore if he gets transmuted. So LOAD is out of the question.
If people say that LOADing works after death, in UT, they keep their consciousness post-death as evidenced by Flowey.
If people say that LOADing works after death, in UT, they keep their consciousness post-death as evidenced by Flowey.
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Bill can also BFR Asriel by snapping his fingers to knock him out and trap him in a Pocket Reality.
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>BFR to pocket reality.Unoriginal Memes said:
>Multiversal range.
How about no?
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Like turning him into gold, since Ford still retained his consciousness.Eficiente said:
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