just because there's no contradicting evidence doesn't mean it's true tbf. and we are basically saying it doesnt have enough context, if you want a solid argument we can just argue segans standard due to this lack of evidence. not to mention the statement of the omniverse stretching in all dimensions is skeptical (as qwasfed said) so this is mostly an argument that has been repeated numerous times and rejected numerous times, and goes against the rules
no it hasn't
I’m inclined to agree with @Everything12 and Qawsed
Btw even extending in different directions does not mean geometrically extending to different dimensional axes. Ultima had a statement about this. But let's see, we'll wait.
the argument of the najins saying ben 10 views in 3 spatial dimensions, so therefore najins 26 dimensions are higher spatial dimensions has been used before here, and subsequentially rejected
Yeah, the use of the omniverse argument makes it so it has new evidence, therefore not breaking the rulesthe argument of the najins saying ben 10 views in 3 spatial dimensions, so therefore najins 26 dimensions are higher spatial dimensions has been used before here, and subsequentially rejected
Possibly 27d, POSSIBLY INFINITY D for Alien X.
As I understand it, on our wiki they don’t consider those 26d creatures to have 26d, because the qualitative difference is not shown. 26-27D However, I found screenshots where it says that these creatures are 5d and 26d, and the author confirms that they have a qualitative difference...vsbattles.com
the only difference is the omniverse argument which is skeptical as qawsedf said
fair ig. but that statement is iffy and doesnt really add to much so the argument is still pretty weak, so ima stay on dissagreeing with the scale
Nobody used appeal to authority tho?
don't bring that here
doesnt really support that these 26 dimensions are spatial higher dimensions. as this 26 dimension could be 3d in terms of qualitive superiority and the statement would still work if its not 26d in terms of QS
thats what i was thinking, but best not to start a fight
Nah I will XDdon't bring that here
I mean if every spcial dimension is infinite, it apparently qualifies for qualitative superiority, but the problem is imo whether directions can be used to refer to spacial higher dimensions
the problem is, if the najins dimensions are directions at all I believe(i think?)
That’s why I’m waiting for ultima on whether higher dimensions can be referred to as directions
aight
reading trough this, the only new argument is that the omniverse would actually scale to the 26 dimensions. no new argumemts have been presented for the 26 dimensions actually being coordinated spatial planes. (if im interpreting this correctly)
no, the new argument is that albedo stated every direction goes on for infinity, therefore each spacial dimensions goes on for infinity and that gives qualitative superiority
ah ok. isnt the dimensions being spatial rejected tho?
No, just them having qualitative superiority
What's your stance here? Do u completely disagree with the upgrade? I think even if goes either way having discussion rule against smth shouldn't be ultimate denial if staffs who has been participated in previous Ben 10 threads finds it sufficient. Also, once my friend asked DT if Contimelias statement is enough for HDE and he said it looks enough.
aight. i still dissagree though
HDE= Just axis.Man. I think we already have enough discussion about it.
What's your stance here? Do u completely disagree with the upgrade? I think even if goes either way having discussion rule against smth shouldn't be ultimate denial if staffs who has been participated in previous Ben 10 threads finds it sufficient. Also, once my friend asked DT if Contimelias statement is enough for HDE and he said it looks enough.
Additions to the HDE page (Staff Thread)
Then the ability from Aliex X should probably be removed.
Is there no ground for possibly rating as well iyo?
I think one statement from one episode saying there's 26 "relevant" dimensions with nothing else isn't really enough for an upgrade.
He says with no context it looks enough and before hand gave a few examples of characters with HDE not fitting qualifications for it.
Maybe?
Maybe the rest of the dimensions are just empty, there’s no planet with a 27th-D component for instance?
But the 27th Dimension would still matter, since it would be the fundamental background of the lower dimensions and what they're defined against.
What did u meant here. If it's about only 26D that matters, it might mean that others are not inhabitable or empty for living beings? Or way beyond even their grasp of things?
Yeah for what was said he said it looks enough but context many times happens to change things differently but we know that there's no contradictory statement regarding it.
It doesn’t matter for lifeforms, since there are no lifeforms which are moving across said 27th dimension at any point. Is more what I was going for.
I didn't agree to it, I find the premise reasonable but I'm still holding up my vote given the way the discussion is going and some vagueness going by what has been discussed so far.
Yeah I edited my comment before I saw this message, my bad.
Ok, thanks.
Noted, anything else you'd like to add?
