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can I ask a stupid question, how would an extra special dimension being infinite = superiority
Common misconception, higher-volume spaces only need to proven to be non-compactified to qualify. Basically infinitely more (hyper)volume means infinitely more energy needed to destroy said construct.
 
can I ask a stupid question, how would an extra special dimension being infinite = superiority
 
and there are the likes of Calabi-yau manifolds.
Direction: “a course along which someone or something moves.”

Wouldn’t it qualify? Usually they give you the example of an ant traveling in small circles when explaining string theory. The ant is still moving in a certain direction.
 
Calabi yau manifoold are compactified means their dimensions has been taken as tends to 0 for the sake of simplifying mathematical calculations related to them. They won't provide QS but hde sure.
 
Yeah I’m pretty sure that even if the 26 dimensions here formed a Calabi-Yau manifold that the resulting hypervolume due to the dimensions being infinite would be the same as if those dimensions didn’t form a Calabi-Yau manifold.
 
They don't provide Higher-Dimensional Existence, the dimensions needs to be of significant size as Higher-Dimensional Existence is to ability to shrug off lower dimensional abilities by being so big the abilities can't affect a significant enough area.

If the 26 dimensions are akin to a manifold then they won't be applicable for Tier 1 as they neither do that, or make the cosmology bigger enough that it takes more energy to destroy it. All such dimensions mean, is that it would require greater precision to be able to affect them because of their smaller size, which is neither Higher-Dimensional Existence or Tier 1 worthy.
 
They don't provide Higher-Dimensional Existence
Cough cough..
 
They don't provide Higher-Dimensional Existence
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Sonic_the_Hedgehog_(Modern) has higher range for being able to hit Solaris, a 6D entity with 5D AP. To give some examples.
Those aren't manifolds.
If they’re not manifolds and they’re accepted to have 5D existence, then why aren’t they Low 1-C?

Edit: Just saw the above comment, yeah it probably doesn’t matter too much for now.
 
Watching the scene again, the upgrade seems fine. Yes, it's a singular scene across most of the continuity. No, that's not grounds for dismissing what's being said there.

When the Naljian talks about how humans can only perceive "only" 3 dimensions, she's pretty clearly talking about spatial dimensions like up-down, left-right, and forwards-backward. When Ben asks for clarification on how many dimensions there are, he's still referencing what she just said, so they're still talking about dimensions of the same nature. I'm not sure what this "we're not sure what they mean" rhetoric is about. There are more than 3 spatial dimensions (the ones humans can perceive) and at least 26 based on piecing together the conversation's basic sequence. Given that these are specific directions they're talking about, the Omniversal Force extending endlessly throughout every direction would apply as well.

I'm not sure who or what would scale but the the cosmology being Hyperversal seems good to me.
 
Watching the scene again, the upgrade seems fine. Yes, it's a singular scene across most of the continuity. No, that's not grounds for dismissing what's being said there.

When the Naljian talks about how humans can only perceive "only" 3 dimensions, she's pretty clearly talking about spatial dimensions like up-down, left-right, and forwards-backward. When Ben asks for clarification on how many dimensions there are, he's still referencing what she just said, so they're still talking about dimensions of the same nature. I'm not sure what this "we're not sure what they mean" rhetoric is about. There are more than 3 spatial dimensions (the ones humans can perceive) and at least 26 based on piecing together the conversation's basic sequence. Given that these are specific directions they're talking about, the Omniversal Force extending endlessly throughout every direction would apply as well.

I'm not sure who or what would scale but the the cosmology being Hyperversal seems good to me.
Thank you for your input Planck, I'll wait with scaling for a bit. Directly scaling people to the Omniversal Force's AP is a no-go for me. More indirect methods can be discussed.
 
The Naljians state that reality is composed of at least 26 (maybe 27) spatio-temporal dimensions which should scale them (sike, they’re fodder) the Omniversal Force to hyperversal.
She doesn't mention them being spatial-temporal. She just says that there's 26 that matter. Though I guess you could argue that it means 26 geometric dimensions contextually
It extends infinitely in every direction, through every reality, so all of its dimensions are obviously fully-sized.
This is followed and proceed by him acknowledging the futility of his hatred towards Ben. Its not really a usable quote for size in my mind.

For the thread such an upgrade has no supporting evidence for higher dimensions and there's already a discussion rule about this topic. I'm not really for it.
 
For the thread such an upgrade has no supporting evidence for higher dimensions and there's already a discussion rule about this topic. I'm not really for it.
For clarification, 26D just has as much evidence as much 5D of Ben 10 does. Latter is accepted as hde by us since long.
 
For clarification, 26D just has as much evidence as much 5D of Ben 10 does. Latter is accepted as hde by us since long.
If they have the same amount of evidence then HDE should also be removed then. Since you're arguing both are wrong.
 
If they have the same amount of evidence then HDE should also be removed then. Since you're arguing both are wrong.
A lil bit of clarification again, naljians statement has been accepted as hde but was thought to be of insignificant size. That's why 5D is accepted but not qualitatively. This thread is arguing they're of significant size.
 
Ben 10 on the site has higher dimensions accepted but hasn't been scaled ever due to them being possibly of insignificant size and possible correlation with bosonic string theory, was a thing for which discussion rule was created.
 
Watching the scene again, the upgrade seems fine. Yes, it's a singular scene across most of the continuity. No, that's not grounds for dismissing what's being said there.

When the Naljian talks about how humans can only perceive "only" 3 dimensions, she's pretty clearly talking about spatial dimensions like up-down, left-right, and forwards-backward. When Ben asks for clarification on how many dimensions there are, he's still referencing what she just said, so they're still talking about dimensions of the same nature. I'm not sure what this "we're not sure what they mean" rhetoric is about. There are more than 3 spatial dimensions (the ones humans can perceive) and at least 26 based on piecing together the conversation's basic sequence. Given that these are specific directions they're talking about, the Omniversal Force extending endlessly throughout every direction would apply as well.

I'm not sure who or what would scale but the the cosmology being Hyperversal seems good to me.
I share a similar sentiment.
 
"But then you are remarkably unintelligent."

"I've been hearing that all day."

"I did not mean to offend. It's just that you are such a young species. You only perceive three dimensions. Is that right?"

"Yeah. How many are there?"

"Only 26 that matter. You'll work it out soon, I'm sure."


"We were on an afternoon excursion to the lower dimensions, and she must have dropped it out of her carriage. I've been looking everywhere for it."
Albedo: Azmuth's added brainpower gives me much finer control over my abilities. And I can feel myself getting even smarter.

[Laughs evilly]

Ben: Smart enough to act like a grown-up?

Albedo: Smart enough to ...

[Energy crackles]

No! Now I see the universe for what it is. We are all dust, bound by one enormous universal force. No. Not universal. Not even multiversal. This omniversal force continues forever, in every direction through every reality.
From the looks of it, perceiving more than 3 spatial dimensions is related to intelligence. This concept is brought back with Ultimate Albedo where his increased intelligence allows him to perceive more, going past some levels of space.
 
If they have the same amount of evidence then HDE should also be removed then. Since you're arguing both are wrong.
Ben 10 on the site has higher dimensions accepted but hasn't been scaled ever due to them being possibly of insignificant size and possible correlation with bosonic string theory, was a thing for which discussion rule was created.
Here and there are many related to them.
 
Yeah no, one singular, non-contradicted statement that emphasises on the spatial dimensions aka 3D, 4D, 5D all the way until 26D has no reason to be dismissed, the counter-arguments provided are as the supporters say, heavy unquantified mental gymnastics to reject the upgrade. The opponents have to provide evidence on their end why those dimensions aren’t spatial, why those dimensions don’t qualify besides the ”they didn’t clarify what they meant” argument (which is VERY flimsy btw), otherwise those arguments can be obliterated by Hitchem’s Razor.

I agree with the upgrade
 
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