Beerus Justification.

[Linkfoi12]

Well, In his profile it says he should be at least comparable to Fusion Zamasu, which would put him at pretty much the lowest baseline in Low 2-C, but I have a slight nitpick with this. It makes little sense for why he should be comparable, it would make far more sense for him to be vastly superior.

1. Beerus only looked slightly worried to Zamasu presence, but that doesn't say Beerus is not that much stronger.

2. The fact that we have SSB Goku as Low 2-C after his post Ultra Instinct Sign, and we know Beerus should be as comparable with Toppo as they're both Gods of Destructions, and we don't really have any reason to not believe Beerus should be weaker, and Toppo was also able to fight on par with SSB Evolution Vegeta, who is also comparable to SSBkkx20 Goku, which suggests Beerus should be far above Baseline Low 2-C, if we went with the justifications for being at least comparable from Infinite Zamasu.

It would seem to be better to reword it to, "(Any powerful God of Destruction can destroy the universe even when holding back immensely, and should any two GoDs fight, the collateral damage will result in the destruction of their respective universes. Likely far stronger than Infinite Zamasu,),"

 

[Anonimoe7875]

Toppo trashed Vegeta before he got that power-up.

And SSBE Vegeta fought Jiren after he started showing a hint of his power.

That Jiren > Jiren that fought SSB Goku > Jiren before he started showing his true power > Infinite Zamasu.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

If Beerus scales to characters that are that much stronger than Zamasu, then that "somewhat comparable" really shouldn't be there, Beerus crushes Zamasu.

 

[ArmBill]

One thing you forgot to add. In a magazine, herms translated a line that said ultra instict goku might have surpassed beerus. At the top its shows Ui(3rd awakening). So beerus is atleast equal or a little weaker than goku in that state. Also the reason I said "atleast" is because i put the scan through a translater to read the whole scan and it made it seem like it was talking about MUI Goku.

 

[Linkfoi12]

@Meerkat Oh, that's something I didn't know.

 

[ArmBill]

Heres a link if anyone wants to see it https://twitter.com/Herms98/status/971664014601154560

 

[Dark649]

From the Discussion Rules:

Please refrain from making content revision threads on Dragon Ball Super, as recently we have received an extreme number of them and the staff has gotten tired at how numerous they are. Preferably, comment on already existing threads, if you can, in order to elevate this issue.

 

[Linkfoi12]

@Dark I made a content revision thread slightly rewording something, And.... It's far less likely to get brought up if I already brought it up in an entirely separate thread discussing something entirely different. It's something that would take barely any time to evaluate and it's fairly off topic on other boards as well. So, I see no harm in making something as simple as this, as this is what the threads are derived from.... If this was something that already got brought up, then yes, by all means: Close this. But it wasn't, nor does evaluating something on an already existing thread which is quite off topic from the original discussion, make much sense, as they both take about the same time to evaluate, and being noticed.

 

[Skalt711]

Agreed with Linkfoi12's revisions.

 

[Dark649]

Anyway, i'm neutral about the thread since in other one it was discussed that the Gods are close to the highest bounds of Low 2-C.

 

[Aeyu]

I don't think mention of IZ is even necessary. It's Jiren who scales to IZ, and no one else. GoD's should scale to Toppo, who was confirmed to possess the full power of a GoD. It should look more similar to this, if changed at all:

For most GoD's:

Universe level+ (When two Gods of Destruction fight, it poses an existential threat to each of their respective universes. Should be comparable or superior to Toppo, who was capable of warping the infinite World of Void, and is himself comparable to a held-back Jire, who was stated several times to be the strongest foe in Dragon Ball history, surpassing the likes of even an incomplete Infinite Zamasu)

For Champa:

Universe level+ (When two Gods of Destruction fight, it poses an existential threat to each of their respective universes. Should be comparable or superior to Toppo, who was capable of warping the infinite World of Void, and is himself comparable to a held-back Jire, who was stated several times to be the strongest foe in Dragon Ball history, surpassing the likes of even an incomplete Infinite Zamasu. Comparable, although inferior to, Beerus, who possessed an incomplete Ultra Instinct)

For Beerus:

Universe level+ (When two Gods of Destruction fight, it poses an existential threat to each of their respective universes. Should be comparable or superior to Toppo, who was capable of warping the infinite World of Void, and is himself comparable to a held-back Jire, who was stated several times to be the strongest foe in Dragon Ball history, surpassing the likes of even an incomplete Infinite Zamasu. Revealed by Whis to possess an incomplete Ultra Instinct, and is likely superior to at least some of the other Gods of Destruction)

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

I agree with Aeyu's justifications.

 

[The_Everlasting]

Here's how the scaling goes.

Initial Suppression Jiren > Infinite Zamasu.

Jiren "with a hint of his full power" >= SSJBE Vegeta.

SSJBE Vegeta = GoD Toppo.

GoD Toppo = Other GoDs.

As GoD Toppo is ~= Hint of his true power Jiren, GoDs > Infinite Zamasu.

 

[Kaltias]

Honestly I would cut the part about destroying all the matter in the universe.

It's like adding the fact that Beerus destroyed a planet super casually. It doesn't support the tier.

 

[Aeyu]

Okay. Edited.

 

[KinkiestSins]

Aeyu makes sense here

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

I'm pretty sure a guide said 3rd time UIO is comparable to Beerus

 

[Anonimoe7875]

It wasn´t a guide.

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

That looks like a guide to me bruh lmao.

Anyway. Yeah. It is official and it implies Beerus is at least some what comparable to 3rd time UIO Goku as he might POSSIBLY be stronger than he is

 

[Ryukama]

The way I see it 3rd UI Omen Goku might have surpassed Beerus, whereas Mastered Ultra Instinct Goku and friendship boost Mastered Ultra Instinct Goku definitely surpassed Beerus.

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

Yeah basically. Either way you look at the scan, Beerus ends up being somewhat comparable to 3rd UIO Goku. Who at that point should be a good amount stronger than infinite Zamasu

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

I side with Ever here. Furthermore, given that the GoDs were fangirling over Jiren and Goku's first fight (w/ UIO), the statement contradicts the showing, and we all know what we go with on this site.

 

[ShakeResounding]

@Cal To be fair, the GoD's were also scared due to the fact that they're very existence is depending on defeating a guy who seemingly can't be beat. Not saying that they weren't worried of his power, but there was more to it than just that.

I agree with Aeyu.

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

I agree with Aeyu's suggestions.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Oh, I agree with Aeyu as well.

 

[Steve_Rogers1]

This isn't the only evidence that the GoD's are far above baseline. It is stated by Whis that two Gods of Destruction fighting can wipe out their respective universes. Later on it's shown that it would indeed be a 4-D extent via scaling from Zamasu. The combined power of two God's is Low Multiversal, so they're already going to be at the very high end of Universal+.

 

[AKM sama]

Also agree with Aeyu and Ever.

 

[Kaltias]

Later on it's shown that it would indeed be a 4-D extent via scaling from Zamasu

That's a non-sequitur.

Being stronger =/= your feats are necessarily better.

It's exactly why scaling exists, after all.

 

[Linkfoi12]

Have we all come to a conclusion to add it to their profiles? We should probably add it before the thread becomes forgotten.