Destroyers trying to make history

[LuffyRuffy46307]

I kinda agree with historical EE because didn't beerus stated that zamasu would be erased at all point in history?

What I don't get is universe 6 being refered to as history as evidence for HEE because in context it means that even though uni 6 and 7 are twin uni having some same species. Their progress of how uni 6 came to be as uni 6 is different then uni 7.

Ex king vegeta destruction, planet earth.

Can someone clarify?

In fact, different history suggests different spacetime flow, according to Trunks, this applies to both parallel worlds and Universes, since each Universe has its own past, present, and future of Universes


Exactly here it is mentioned that different events changed the planet Earth of Universe 6, this proves that Universe 6 does not have the same history as Universe 7, which is twins, different story suggests different time flow

When Vegeta mentions that the Saiyan doesn't have a tail, he's surprised. In the same scan, Vegeta asks about the Saiyans being Freeza's slaves, and he mentions that this never happened. Now, in this same scan, it's said that different things happened in this universe. In the same scan mentioned above, it's described that the planet Sadala still exists, and in universe 7 it was blown up into a thousand pieces.

Therefore, having a different history suggests a different flow of time, which means that the Gods of destruction are destroying the Universes and their histories, since each Universe contains a past,present and future telling a totally different story, so story level erasure.

 

[Killerdrone123]

Can you cite where we got that standard accepted? Then I can give full support

I can't site you the exact standard but in this thread it is outlined that zeno has history type ee for erasing space and time and it was accepted check 3rd point in the thread

Minor Zeno DBS ability removal

Anyway, i have been neglecting DB Canon for too long. now without further ado From Zen'ō profile Immortality [Type 2 & 3] & Regeneration Negation (Mid-Godly, permanently erased[1] an Immortal Zamasu who wouldn’t die from Power of Destruction's erasure power) There is many things wrong with...

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Also history is just reference to space and time and knowledgeable members also use them interchangeably

Post in thread 'High-Godly regeneration problem' https://vsbattles.com/threads/high-godly-regeneration-problem.109109/post-3398634

Removing History and Temporal erasure from High-Godly

But is important, becouse we are literally debating how the ability should work, and which characters should get and which not, we are debating the criteria. This thread is for determining the standards of High-Godly regen. Once that is done, you can debate which characters would be affected...

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[57Dev]

Agree. I am surprised this wasn't brought up like a decade ago.

 

[omegabronic]

I kinda agree with historical EE because didn't beerus stated that zamasu would be erased at all point in history?

Nah, he said that via gods logic on time travel they can alter the future if they change the past

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

I can't site you the exact standard but in this thread it is outlined that zeno has history type ee for erasing space and time and it was accepted check 3rd point in the thread

Minor Zeno DBS ability removal

Anyway, i have been neglecting DB Canon for too long. now without further ado From Zen'ō profile Immortality [Type 2 & 3] & Regeneration Negation (Mid-Godly, permanently erased[1] an Immortal Zamasu who wouldn’t die from Power of Destruction's erasure power) There is many things wrong with...

vsbattles.com

Also history is just reference to space and time and knowledgeable members also use them interchangeably

Post in thread 'High-Godly regeneration problem' https://vsbattles.com/threads/high-godly-regeneration-problem.109109/post-3398634

Removing History and Temporal erasure from High-Godly

But is important, becouse we are literally debating how the ability should work, and which characters should get and which not, we are debating the criteria. This thread is for determining the standards of High-Godly regen. Once that is done, you can debate which characters would be affected...

vsbattles.com

Then I agree fully, with both manga and anime DBS.

Oh hey I was in one of those!

 

[Elizhaa]

The changes seem okay from the nature of time travel in the verse and the other points.

 

[Deleted member 40688]

Bro the tags

 

[AwkguyDB]

Neutral here as well.

What are your thoughts now with the points that were clarified above

 

[Killerdrone123]

Bump

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Bump

This can be applied

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

What are your thoughts now with the points that were clarified above

He already voted here and said ok, we have 3 agreements for hakai erasing story level.

 

[ChoursDropoff]

In that case, I lean towards being okay with it. Keyword being "Lean." I'd say it's more on point in the manga description as well.

Has your opinion changed at all?

 

[ChoursDropoff]

Bump

 

[TiltedFN]

Do we have enough?

 

[Deleted member 40688]

2 mods agree and 1 neutral

Do we have enough?

 

[Borutonarutodebunked]

Does this apply to those who are considered ''gods'' with godly ki (example: super saiyan blue/god) ?

 

[Killerdrone123]

Does this apply to those who are considered ''gods'' with godly ki (example: super saiyan blue/god) ?

This revision is related to hakai so anyone who has hakai would have history type ee

 

[Borutonarutodebunked]

This revision is related to hakai so anyone who has hakai would have history type ee

I'm talking about the causality manipulation & the paracausality type 4

 

[Killerdrone123]

I'm talking about the causality manipulation & the paracausality type 4

Pretty sure causality manip would be given to hakai only and anyone with resistance to hakai would also get resistance to causality manip don't know about accausality type 4

 

[Borutonarutodebunked]

Pretty sure causality manip would be given to hakai only and anyone with resistance to hakai would also get resistance to causality manip don't know about accausality type 4

The paracausality type 4 stands for beerus saying gods dont follow the same causation when trunks doubt that him killing zamasu in the present will affect future, when he destroyed the androids in the present, it did not affect his future. I made an entire blog in the past explaining this entire thread.

 

[Jaakor48]

I'm talking about the causality manipulation & the paracausality type 4

No, mortals with God ki are still mortals, the nature of their existence doesn't change

The paracausality type 4 stands for beerus saying gods dont follow the same causation when trunks doubt that him killing zamasu in the present will affect future, when he destroyed the androids in the present, it did not affect his future. I made an entire blog in the past explaining this entire thread.

This is quite impressive tbh

 

[Killerdrone123]

The paracausality type 4 stands for beerus saying gods dont follow the same causation when trunks doubt that him killing zamasu in the present will affect future, when he destroyed the androids in the present, it did not affect his future. I made an entire blog in the past explaining this entire thread.

I think we could use the blog to justify type 4 accausality thank you

Edit:where does probability manipulation comes from

 

[Borutonarutodebunked]

I think we could use the blog to justify type 4 accausality thank you

Edit:where does probability manipulation comes from

That is the outdated part of the blog, please disregard it.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

The paracausality type 4 stands for beerus saying gods dont follow the same causation when trunks doubt that him killing zamasu in the present will affect future, when he destroyed the androids in the present, it did not affect his future. I made an entire blog in the past explaining this entire thread.

It was very good, congratulations.

 

[Borutonarutodebunked]

No, mortals with God ki are still mortals, the nature of their existence doesn't change

You see, super saiyan god is stated to make you a deity, piccolo even points out that the reason nobody could sense goku's ki when he turned into super saiyan god is because that form turned him into a deity. Even other Gods of destruction points that out too (beerus too). Same thing for the anime.

 

[AwkguyDB]

The paracausality type 4 stands for beerus saying gods dont follow the same causation when trunks doubt that him killing zamasu in the present will affect future, when he destroyed the androids in the present, it did not affect his future. I made an entire blog in the past explaining this entire thread.

Good Blog

 

[AizenBankai09]

The paracausality type 4 stands for beerus saying gods dont follow the same causation when trunks doubt that him killing zamasu in the present will affect future, when he destroyed the androids in the present, it did not affect his future. I made an entire blog in the past explaining this entire thread.

Cooked

 

[King_Gorilla4002-8922]

Just out of curiosity, would the type 4 acasuality be in relation to the normal timeline of universe 7 or the hypertimeline?

 

[Vietthai96]

Just out of curiosity, would the type 4 acasuality be in relation to the normal timeline of universe 7 or the hypertimeline?

hypertimeline

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

So, what's left to complete with the crt and apply the changes?

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

So, what's left to complete with the crt and apply the changes?

Still lacks 1 more agreement.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Still lacks 1 more agreement.

I think he can help us with this @Catzlaflame

 

[ChoursDropoff]

In that case, I lean towards being okay with it. Keyword being "Lean." I'd say it's more on point in the manga description as well.

Has your opinion changed from being neutral?

 

[ChoursDropoff]

Still lacks 1 more agreement.

Yes he’s right I think we still need more staff.

 

[Killerdrone123]

Bump

 

[Gamin_Yoon23]

Bump

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Might as well shift to full on agreement then.

 

[Spinoirr]

I am generally surprised this only lasted 4 pages

 

[Killerdrone123]

I am generally surprised this only lasted 4 pages

I mean it is blatant tbh

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Might as well shift to full on agreement then.

Thank you very much, bro