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Theyre not actually, Bleach in particular has one MFTL+ feat and a few casual FTL feats
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Bayonetta Verse Revisions: Low 1-C, Infinite
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Who in bleach is MFTL+ cause the god tiers are only FTL
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Last time I checked, they were MFTL, but not MFTL+
Edit: Wait, I double checked and they got downgraded, oof
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What discrepacy exactly? How is having one high-end feat and then a bunch of casual feats a discrepancy? This is like saying a charactr who dodge lightning and then casually dodges bullets shouldnt be MHS becaues dodging bullets is less impressive than dodging lightning. Youre completely ignoring the contxt and arguing solely based on the numbers.
It was already discussed in the other thread why the fodder can viably be billions of times faster, you ignored it.
There already has been an explanation, an 8 page thread of an explanation.
Yes, just as i know that what your arguing is ultimately pointless and based in biased opinion rather than actual evidence
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Weekly. There are four MFTL+ feats besides the one we are debating. NONE COME CLOSE. You refuse to disclose this to make your argument look better, and you know this. This is quite honestly disappointing. And yes, I have read all four pages.
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Not all MFTL feats are comparable. If a verse filled with feats that are 10x -100,000x MFTL suddenly gets one feat that's a quintillion or trillions or whatever x MFTL performed by a fodder that feat is heavily scrutinized unless there are more feats in the range of quintillions or trillion x MFTL.
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And yes thatwas mymistak, theyre MFTL not MFTL+ but the comparison still stands as they only have on MFTL feat supported by FTL feats
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They were downgraded.
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Anyways at this point Die and Infinite ar stonewalling so im gonna get some staff in here to put a stop to that so we can conclude this
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The high-end feat is billions of times faster than all others. Please admit this in your arguments. You know this.
No... that "billions" was never discussed.
I read it, fodders can be faster, never said anything about billions.
Strawman argument, and I know my argument doesn't change anything as I am not staff, I am voicing my opinion.
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Damn, that sucks. But let's not derailThey were downgraded.
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Adnyeus (アドナイェウス, Adonayeusu?), more commonly known as the Soul King (霊れい王おう, Reiō?), is the king of Soul Society, whose existence in Soul Society is as symbolic as it is absolute. The king resides in the Soul King Palace that exists in a separate, special realm in the very core of Soul Society...Ichigo Kurosaki (Post-Timeskip)
Ichigo Kurosaki (黒崎くろさき 一いち護ご, Kurosaki Ichigo?) is the son of Masaki Kurosaki and Isshin Kurosaki, a Quincy with the powers of a Shinigami. Years after the death of his mother, Ichigo uses his innate spiritual awareness to help local ghosts, and unlocks his potential as a Shinigami when Rukia...Yhwach
Yhwach (ユーハバッハ, Yūhabahha?) is the Father of the Quincy, the monarch of the Wandenreich, and the son of the Soul King, known by the designation "A" - The Almighty. As a baby, Yhwach was incapable of sight, speech, or even the slightest movement, but never feared or despaired, as he knew he would...
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They were MFTL because of specific multipliers to their FTL feats. They weren't separate feats.
And as said above, they've been downgraded anyway, so not only is it a false equivalency, it's just outright wrong information
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You refuse to directly show scans to prove that the fodder can be billions of times faster.
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Ive posted this thread like five times already but here you go, just for you
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I've read it all. Show where it says billions. Post the scan Weekly, cause you seem to know where it is.
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How does that in any way invalidate what i just said? Hell how does that in any way invalidate the feat itself? Again youre looking solely at the numbers without looking at the context in which those numbers exist
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Strawman. Again. It's time to stop. I look at the numbers, I address your arguments, show where it says fodders can be billions of times faster than god tiers. That is all I want. Your argument is just 'They can be faster, so let's just say they can be billions of times faster' which is just... no. Why would we assume that?
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MFTL+ Irenic feat.
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I thought we were having a nice discussion for once but apparently, I'm stonewalling. I haven't said anything controversial, having multiple lower-end MFTL feats doesn't mean an MFTL that is quintillion times large than the lower-ends is acceptable. I believe Dragon Ball was downgraded in the past for that very reason. Asking why regular cars were comparable in speed to Irenic and Bayonetta during the gameplay section when they are apparently moving at trillions x MFTL+ speeds is an honest concern. These things need to be discussed so the ratings and reasoning can be stronger overall.
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wait question. is this amp permanant? or on the spot?
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They can amp themselves hundreds of billions of times?
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Yes they can amp thmselves to match Bayonetta's witch time speed amp
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They can amp themselves to match Bayonetta, so yes, it would have to be that fast..
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Exactly how far is the amp?
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Good. Now the question is why were regular cars comparable to Irenic and Bayonetta's bike speed if they were moving at quintillions MFTL speeds? The regular cars are so comparable that angels used them as platforms to attack Bayonetta on.
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They can amp themselves for as long as they need to
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Because there’s a different between her regular speed, and when she’s amping herself with witch time. As I said before the angels weren’t chasing her on cars, they always came ahead of Bayonetta due to how they spawn into the world. The only thing that chased with Bayonetta was Irenic, period.
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What's the exact amount of amp they can do?
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I like how even aftr us clarifying it, people are still arguing lik this in any way shape or form scales to Bayonetta's travel speed
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Hmmm then wouldnt the speed key be some thing like:
whatever they are rn, mflt+ with amp?
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I mean yeah sure. The amps can be applied whenever so that seems fine
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How much is Bayoneta amped in Witch Time?
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Enough to see MFTL+ opponnts as near motionless and for a battle that took half an hour in her eyes to take a fraction of a second irl
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Again there’s no said number, she can amp herself fast enough to keep up with Irenic who we have a calc for.
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that pag is being gradually broken dwn and will be dleted,its gnuinely awful
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