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Alright, this is sort of a long time coming ever since I made my Bayo 1 downgrade, I’ve been meaning to tackle Bayo 2 if anything was off, and well… it’s severely off, so let’s get right into it.
So in Bayonetta 2, base state Bayonetta is scaled to High 4-C due to scaling from Loptr, and Alraune when absorbing Jeanne’s soul, and Jeanne in her “True Jeanne” state is High 4-C from the following: destroying Jubileus’ body, and tanking a hit from Right Eye Balder. Now on paper this doesn’t seem too bad, especially when Left Eye Bayonetta was able to handle a weakened Jubileus, which can survive a High 4-C attack. But the problem is if you look at the context for these statements, it’s not close to being legit.
Now for starters, most of the reasons for the scaling stems from Jeanne herself. Now Jeanne tanking a blow from Balder from the Right Eye is missing some context, not only does Balder show how he can use his left eye to charge up an attack, which at full power can blow up the moon here, but the thing she DOES tank is a weak attack in comparison. This is the equivalent of trying to scale Cell Saga Krillin to Semi Perfect Cell because he tanked a ki blast from him.
Now for her being able to destroy Jubileus’ body, this is not impressive in the slightest for the sole reason, that Bayonetta with Queen Sheba’s summon, was able to punch her soul out of her body and send it to the sun to evaporate, leaving her body as an empty body with no Jubileus left, and Jeanne only comes in AFTER the fight to help break the empty husk that remains. So both her durability and her attack potency in her serious state is already questionable to say the least.
Now onto Bayonetta scaling to Loptr, this makes absolutely no sense to me as why she’s remotely comparable to Loptr when in numerous instances she gets bodied by him, and was only able to take on Loptr when he was severely nerfed after Loki erased both eyes. And the other times Bayonetta did fight Loptr, she gets slapped away casually by Loptr when he has no eyes, when she time traveled to the past by Loki and fights a younger and weaker Loptr, she gets bodied again with no effort from Loptr, and when she tries to fight Loptr when he had one eye, she gets bodied AGAIN by him. At the very best she’s able to scale from the Left Eye, as her keeping up with a far stronger version of Loptr when she’s been consecutively beaten by weaker versions of him in base form makes absolutely no sense.
So what I propose is that everyone that scales to Bayonetta 2 Bayonetta, and Serious Jeanne should be downgraded to High 6-A as it’s far more consisted for them to be on that level in the game than them taking on Jubileus or Loptr with the Right eye in base.
And another thing I want to propose removing is the Queen Sheba and Omne summon keys for Bayonetta, Balder and Jeanne. Not only does Omne’s own lore in the Book of Inferno demons flat out said it required a Lumen Sage and Umbran witch’s power to summon it, but the weaknesses for all of their keys regarding summoning these gods flat out said they need someone else to summon it, so why should they have a summon they cannot be able to summon on their own? It makes no sense for it to scale to them individually. The same should apply to Balder with Jubileus’ summoning as that required Bayonetta’s eye for Jubileus to even be awakened.
Agree: TISSG7Redgrave, SagetheLegend, Bobsican, Mister6ame6, IonIiosite, Matthew Schroeder, Antvasima, RebubleUselet, Sparda 20000000, Tony di Bugalu, Obi2cool4kenobi, and Dienomite22
Disagree:
Neutral: DarkDragonMedeus
So in Bayonetta 2, base state Bayonetta is scaled to High 4-C due to scaling from Loptr, and Alraune when absorbing Jeanne’s soul, and Jeanne in her “True Jeanne” state is High 4-C from the following: destroying Jubileus’ body, and tanking a hit from Right Eye Balder. Now on paper this doesn’t seem too bad, especially when Left Eye Bayonetta was able to handle a weakened Jubileus, which can survive a High 4-C attack. But the problem is if you look at the context for these statements, it’s not close to being legit.
Now for starters, most of the reasons for the scaling stems from Jeanne herself. Now Jeanne tanking a blow from Balder from the Right Eye is missing some context, not only does Balder show how he can use his left eye to charge up an attack, which at full power can blow up the moon here, but the thing she DOES tank is a weak attack in comparison. This is the equivalent of trying to scale Cell Saga Krillin to Semi Perfect Cell because he tanked a ki blast from him.
Now for her being able to destroy Jubileus’ body, this is not impressive in the slightest for the sole reason, that Bayonetta with Queen Sheba’s summon, was able to punch her soul out of her body and send it to the sun to evaporate, leaving her body as an empty body with no Jubileus left, and Jeanne only comes in AFTER the fight to help break the empty husk that remains. So both her durability and her attack potency in her serious state is already questionable to say the least.
Now onto Bayonetta scaling to Loptr, this makes absolutely no sense to me as why she’s remotely comparable to Loptr when in numerous instances she gets bodied by him, and was only able to take on Loptr when he was severely nerfed after Loki erased both eyes. And the other times Bayonetta did fight Loptr, she gets slapped away casually by Loptr when he has no eyes, when she time traveled to the past by Loki and fights a younger and weaker Loptr, she gets bodied again with no effort from Loptr, and when she tries to fight Loptr when he had one eye, she gets bodied AGAIN by him. At the very best she’s able to scale from the Left Eye, as her keeping up with a far stronger version of Loptr when she’s been consecutively beaten by weaker versions of him in base form makes absolutely no sense.
So what I propose is that everyone that scales to Bayonetta 2 Bayonetta, and Serious Jeanne should be downgraded to High 6-A as it’s far more consisted for them to be on that level in the game than them taking on Jubileus or Loptr with the Right eye in base.
And another thing I want to propose removing is the Queen Sheba and Omne summon keys for Bayonetta, Balder and Jeanne. Not only does Omne’s own lore in the Book of Inferno demons flat out said it required a Lumen Sage and Umbran witch’s power to summon it, but the weaknesses for all of their keys regarding summoning these gods flat out said they need someone else to summon it, so why should they have a summon they cannot be able to summon on their own? It makes no sense for it to scale to them individually. The same should apply to Balder with Jubileus’ summoning as that required Bayonetta’s eye for Jubileus to even be awakened.
Agree: TISSG7Redgrave, SagetheLegend, Bobsican, Mister6ame6, IonIiosite, Matthew Schroeder, Antvasima, RebubleUselet, Sparda 20000000, Tony di Bugalu, Obi2cool4kenobi, and Dienomite22
Disagree:
Neutral: DarkDragonMedeus
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