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would he still able to keep his abilities? because i think he absorbed god chi into his soul in BoG
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Battle of Passives: Chariot Requiem vs Xeno Goku (GRACE)
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hadn't Xeno Goku experienced the events of GT?
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Various after effects include being put into a passive state where you don't do anything because you're losing your mind, having your soul fused and your body distorted and becoming a new creature entirely, your mind fused with something else, your mind slowly corroding and losing your sense of self, etc.
The soul swap isn't the issue, it's the fact you slowly become something else and lose who you are.
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The mind hax resistance will help with that
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wait a min what was i thinking
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Not all mind hax res helps with the same thing, resisting say, mind hax from someone like Mewtwo or Xavier wouldn't help with mind hax that rewrites the brain physically for example. And vice versa.
What is Goku's mind hax res derived from? And does it cover the mind hax that Chariot causes?
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i think chariots "mind hax" is actually memory manipulation
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His mind hax resistance comes from demigra trying to mind hax him and demigra mind haxed an timeline
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It isn't, not even remotely.
I'm not asking for potency, I'm asking what his mind hax res actually covers. Someone can have a mind hax res that is in the noctillions, but get mind haxed by simply having their brain rewritten physically, by a dude who takes ten hours to just do one person at a time, simply because the res doesn't help against the method done.
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What he means I think that you just resisting a type of mind hax won't help you vs other uses like for example Character X resist to being mind controlled but he won't resist having Character Y rewrite his memories.
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here is something like incon near to chariot win
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More saying that while the end results tend to be similar, lots of mind hax are very, very different mechanically.
Chariot's mind hax is done by, fusing the souls and minds together with "something else" (this even effects the biology of the target, effectively overwriting earth's billions of years of evolution), it isn't run of the mill, the mechanics behind it are a bit weird.
If I had to compare, it's like when Goku and Vegeta fuse, they become one being, though in this case, it's less beneficial and more downright detrimental.
Chariot's mind hax is done by, fusing the souls and minds together with "something else" (this even effects the biology of the target, effectively overwriting earth's billions of years of evolution), it isn't run of the mill, the mechanics behind it are a bit weird.
If I had to compare, it's like when Goku and Vegeta fuse, they become one being, though in this case, it's less beneficial and more downright detrimental.
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i dont see no types. im confused as hell
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Just common sense, it's why sometimes characters can get things like "unconventional resistance", mechanics behind abilities don't always have to be the same, and the same goes for resistances.
Mind Hax is notably, if not the most notable, example of an ability potentially having like a billion different methods behind it. Chariot's mechanics are more rooted in soul hax, but someone like Mewtwo is more psychic and conventional or someone like Ragyo is more physical.
Chariot's mind hax is a byproduct of fusionism and soul hax in this instance. Not a conventional method.
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damn then idk
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Demigra mind haxes via magic so it's I guess psychic based but the resistance being 4d should give him some leverage
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Not really so sure on that, I mean, if Goku doesn't keep his mind 100% intact when he becomes someone like Vegito, it wouldn't be any different here.
Chariot's "mind" hax comes from the fact that Goku's soul is being "replaced" with "something else", fused together, into some weird monster abomination, taking away his sense of self, and the like, because his sense of self basically got overwritten with the soul of another being.
It effects Goku's mind via fusionism and soul hax. Goku doesn't need mind hax resistance here to resist it, he'd be better off having soul res (would honestly shut down 99% of what Requiem can do) or fusionism (would also stop this at the source entirely as the very reason the biomanip and mind manip happens is due to the fusionism).
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incon fra
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Really shouldn't be saying "incon fra" when we still don't know how Goku would deal with the after effects I mentioned.
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will suffer and turns into another creature, but due to not know what would happend it's pretty much incon
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grace
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