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All I’m saying is if the Lanza call is accepted and we still accept Yammy as being stronger than R2, it’s gonna be weird as hell to have pre time skip Byakuya and Kenpachi in the same tier as bankai Yamamoto and base Yhwach
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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion
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Dont worry about that
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Gremmy's new meteor calc would make them High 6-A.
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I don't care whether Yammy is stronger than Segunda Ulquiorra or weaker than Segunda Ulquiorra.
I just don't believe they can be directly scaled to each other either way.
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I mean Kubo deadass drew Yammy eyes wide, when Ulq’s reiatsu permeates Las Nachos and he was like “damn Ulq really fightin rn” and then he pops off later and calls Ulq garbage. Ichigo indirectly confirms this when he goes “so what I’ll beat you all the same” mans doesn’t even disagree.
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Yammy has the best destructive capacity of all the Espada and Nnoitra has the best durability.
He scales above Ulquiorra.
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@AppleLord; I'm not interested in arguing about it here.
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It doesnt say that lol, this is your interpretation
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If it was a mistake, fine I agree that it doesn't necessarily mean all of his attacks are stronger than the others too, but still he is the strongest according to the Databook and the Manga
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That scan doesn’t back Yammy being Lanza but it still scales him above SE’s normal attacks.
The entry on his power doubling mentions that his power, brawn, spiritual power and strength double, surpassing Grimm, Ulq and Nnoitra. Kukkapuuro’s also mentions how he knows everything about the Espada’s strongest and weakest member.
At worst, Yammy only scales to half of Lanza in his normal Rez.
The entry on his power doubling mentions that his power, brawn, spiritual power and strength double, surpassing Grimm, Ulq and Nnoitra. Kukkapuuro’s also mentions how he knows everything about the Espada’s strongest and weakest member.
At worst, Yammy only scales to half of Lanza in his normal Rez.
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I think there's a Lifting Strength one.
That's a bit of a Strawman, though I assume you're joking.
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I think that’s USklav’s anyone got a link for it?
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I’m not gonna argue about the R2 Ulquiorra thing but saying the top 3 Espada scale above that form puts them in the realm of fully hollowfied Ichigo who’s around Aizen level based on Ichigo’s attack on Aizen that wounded him even though he couldn’t use his hollow powers to their true full extent
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Not sure what connection there is between 1-3 being > 4 and 2nd Mask Ichigo harming Aizen.
Aizen > Yammy > 1-3 > 4
Zangetsu >>>>> SE Ulq.
The only connection shared by the two chains is Ulq but he doesn't matter as he is at the bottom of both.
Aizen > Yammy > 1-3 > 4
Zangetsu >>>>> SE Ulq.
The only connection shared by the two chains is Ulq but he doesn't matter as he is at the bottom of both.
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Imma just drop it. You guys do you
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I don't know if this means much for the main series version of it, but does this mean anything for Hell in how Kubo made a concept of it in the Hell Chapter movie?
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Ichigo was far above Ulquiorra in that form. The others 1>3 might be above him but I doubt either of them could literally stomp Ulquiorra the way Ichigo did. He caught a lanza with his bare hands and a single cero from him basically killed Ulquiorra showing he was magnitudes above him.
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Yes I know that, and I know multiple things state Yammy and the others are above him. I’m just saying it’s a bit big to assume it automatically means his strongest form that he’s never shown anyone. If it specified them being above his R2 form I accept it way easier.
It’d be like something saying Yamamoto or Ichibei are stronger than Yhwach (which Yamamoto might be and Ichibei is) but only base Yhwach is who they’re stronger than. And then assuming since it didn’t specify base Yhwach people could go ahead and say they’re stronger than sk Yhwach. But like I said I’m not gonna worry about it anymore
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is that basically the multiverse theory or the "it is made of multiple world size realms"
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Ah. That's pretty much what I got out of it. I could have put "multi-worlds" or "multiple worlds" but I thought it wouldn't fit right with how all of those levels/layers are still all part of Hell as a whole. What I put fits for all of that, which I think can satisfy what the Hell Chapter movie depicted them along with Kubo's concept of it.
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He never regained his powers, he just couldn’t use the Almighty until that prophecy passed otherwise he risked stealing all his underlings power. And I guess you got me on the Ulquiorra one. Ichigo was utterly defeated and assumed Ulquiorra was espada #1 and we all know Ulquiorra doesn’t like to give despairing speeches and make Ichigo’s resolve for further down like he did all his fights with him but whatever.
@Damage, can you please fix post resurrection Bankai and hollowfication Ichigo? Cause his profile makes no sense
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...What?
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I’m almost 100% correct that’s what was said. Go back and fact check me and if I’m wrong I’ll gladly accept it but I can’t remember where it was stated
. One more thing about Ulquiorra, he told Ichigo there were 3 Espada stronger when that’s obviously 4. Ichigo was pretty much one shot by him but I guess I’ll tack it up to his love of spouting bullshit
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you want a lazy old man like me to go all the way and check the manga. Fine wait a moment, for the despair part, this is headcannon. even the Databook says that Ulq isnt the strongestI’m almost 100% correct that’s what was said. Go back and fact check me and if I’m wrong I’ll gladly accept it but I can’t remember where it was stated
