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Baki verse downgrade
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Would a "Possibly 8-A" or "Possibly 7-C" be possible?
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8-A is definitely possible due to the demonic back multiplier.
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This would give High 8-C
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So, are the changes already authorized?
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Therefir considers the feat of stopping the earthquake incorrect.
CloverDragon03 has not yet indicated its position.
The feat of shaking the skyscraper also seems to have been debunked, since the only destruction we see inside the building is a cracked window.
The vibration of the skyscraper is calculated as High 8-C (this is taking into account the fact that I took the mass of one of the heaviest skyscrapers);
The earthquake caused by Baki is still 8-B+;
The Pickle that survived the meteorite gets 8-B;
With this in mind, I personally can assume for Baki and Yujiro such a key "8-A (stronger than Baki, who caused the earthquake), higher with Demon Back, possibly far higher (claimed to be superior to any weapon)"
CloverDragon03 has not yet indicated its position.
The feat of shaking the skyscraper also seems to have been debunked, since the only destruction we see inside the building is a cracked window.
The vibration of the skyscraper is calculated as High 8-C (this is taking into account the fact that I took the mass of one of the heaviest skyscrapers);
The earthquake caused by Baki is still 8-B+;
The Pickle that survived the meteorite gets 8-B;
With this in mind, I personally can assume for Baki and Yujiro such a key "8-A (stronger than Baki, who caused the earthquake), higher with Demon Back, possibly far higher (claimed to be superior to any weapon)"
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Would a "Possibly 7-C" be possible via the statements about being stronger than any military?
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Here it is necessary to call content moderators. But this is very doubtful, given that the best achievements of verse are 100-1000 times weaker than what can be given through statements.
"possibly far higher" is the best option for me
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That's fair
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Judging by the second link it seems that he was frozen in the middle of a fight and didn't seem to tank any of the meteor's impact
This also comes from a random dude examining it, however if we do use it it's not inconsistent like other feats
Baseline 8-A seems like it's definitely possible for top tier characters
Yeah but the thing every statement about Yujiro steers clear of explicitly saying nuclear weapons
It's like the author steers clear of outright confirmation which leads me to believe he isn't above them
We also have in universe confirmation that they haven't used nukes on him yet so once again I believe him being above "Conventional weaponry" to be the safest choice considering we have explicit statement and feats of him doing this
Yeah this was at least Magnitude 4 based of off stuff shown in panel however it can't be used for the many reasons stated above
Pretty sure Ther is working on a calc for it
Still not sure on this one
Yeah seems the best choice
While were on this topic I think we should also touch on the speed scaling in verse
In my opinion Yujiro's reason for being High Hypersonic+ is very poor
It's based entirely on assuming Yujiro is faster than Hitless blow
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Can anyone tell me where we got the 1000 miles per minute claim from? I didn't find it on any wiki
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It's Kaku Kioh referring to Katsumi's mach punch and how it can be refined far further
Hitless Blow is basically the Mach punch refined to it's limit so we assume at least Mach 78
Chapter 119 of Son Of Ogre if you want the exact chapter
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It's like "my jab is faster than the speed of light".
I mean why are we even considering such statements about some kind of development plans?
Moreover, this speed was not confirmed later. So that's even more than 5 times the best feat of speed in a verse that 2 God-Tier has done.
In the light novel "All you need is Kill", the protagonist says that he intends to hone the accuracy of his reflexes to nanoseconds. But this will not be a reason to give him a Relativistic reaction.
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I sort of agree with this
Good thing we have a solid Hypersonic+ feat to scale all the top tiers to though
The lower tiers need to be discussed though because some of the bullet dodges aren't even really dodges like this one
Baki the Grappler feat: Doyle dodges a bullet
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Also the LS.....
The original calc uses 100,000 atmospheres which the manga does say.. However immediately after that it says that that equals 100 tons which is bullshit but that's what the manga says.
Baki: Nomi no Sukune II transforms the coal into the diamond
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So everyone's LS should be downgraded to class K that is based of that calc
Scans for reference
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I have no problem calculating Musasi's feat. There is a time frame indicated by the manga.I sort of agree with this
Good thing we have a solid Hypersonic+ feat to scale all the top tiers to though
The lower tiers need to be discussed though because some of the bullet dodges aren't even really dodges like this one
Baki the Grappler feat: Doyle dodges a bullet
But Doyle's feat is not clear. I don't even see him dodge a bullet.
The feat of Sikorsky is even worse. It is obvious that he raised his leg before Gaia fired. This has been noted in the blog comments.
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What is even happening in that image anyway?
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LS.....
The original calc uses 100,000 atmospheres which the manga does say.. However immediately after that it says that that equals 100 tons which is bullshit but that's what the manga says.
Baki: Nomi no Sukune II transforms the coal into the diamond
So everyone's LS should be downgraded to class K that is based of that calc
Scans for reference
What does the calculation group think about this? Should we go with our own calculation or with the result that the mangaka gives?
I can’t say for sure - he originally wanted to show the feat above, but accidentally underestimated or vice versa, accidentally exaggerated
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Idk)))
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What volume is that from? I could check the raw later, it could be a mistranslation **** up, I've noticed that's common as **** for fan translations to skip a magnitude due to how numbers are written out in kanji, assuming the raws don't just give the numerical value as a number.
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Are you talking about a feat of speed or LS?
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Grip atmospheric shit.
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-Earthquake stop was invalidated by at least 1 member of the calculation team and a couple of users
-Shaking a skyscraper should be counted as a vibration, not an earthquake
-The question is - did Pickle really get hit by a meteorite or not?
-Speed feat 78 Mach sounds like a catchphrase
-LS Class M is in doubt, as the author calls the compression force 100 tons
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The issues listed above seem valid to me.
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Tell me, can we use this statement as an excuse for speed? It looks like a catchphrase and is 3 times the highest calculation done by god-tiers
Also, the author initially says that 100,000 atmospheres are needed for a feat, and then he converts this into 100 tons of force. What is the best value to use?
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So stopping an earthquake doesn't work?
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At least for this I can safely say death of the author. Same with CW Flash having hypersonic statements but performing massively hypersonic feats. We take the feats over author statements for stuff we can actually calculate.
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Wasn't there another thread on dropping the coal into diamond feat because the process is literally impossible?
[EDIT: Found it]
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Yes but is it consistent with levels shown in the story?
The answer is no
Class K however does fit into the story
Plus turning coal into diamond is literally impossible
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Well, I'm not even sure that we can calculate the compression force, since the transformation of coal into stone is possible only at temperatures above 1000 degrees.
This is me if we really ignore the author's statement
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Downloaded Vol 1-22 of Baki Dou in the raws, and I'm not seeing shit sorry, could you be a tad more specific? What volume?
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Cant, torrent site, not allowed to link it i did once before and got told off
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You probably got Baki Dou not the 2018 version also it's on chapter 17 not 18
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That's kinda hilarious and I don't know why
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Stop, this was completely rejected by the calculation group. Why is it still on the profiles?
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I think Pickle was definitely hit by the meteorite, only issue is that we really have no clue where Pickle was at the same exact moment of impact.
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I mean we have that one statement from a random minor that was unearthing Pickle so not really the best evidence
Plus a few chapters later we get a detailed explanation from an actual scientist saying that the impact from the meteor caused massive amounts of dust which dropped the temperature to absolute zero (Baki logic lol) which froze them mid fight
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