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If it's the anime scans I'm sorry to say they don't exist in the manga. I checked. We've been over this already, I believe.
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Baki verse downgrade
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Based on the profile, only the last one
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No
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Yujiro tanking lightning is the most concrete feat we have and that's High 8-C if I remember correctly
Then we have the 8-B "Earthquake" feat that Baki did though that one is up for debate since it just barely qualifies for the formula as well as it really only being a tremor
I don't agree with the 8-A skyscraper feat since emitting 8-A levels of energy is the energy required to destroy an entire skyscraper not just shake it
Plus based on the panels this was limited entirely to the skyscraper
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Perhaps we could use the vibration formula and find the mass of only the skyscraper?
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Yes, that would be helpful.
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Here's all panels relating
It takes place in the arigawa restraunt in shimbashi which in real life is 12 stories however it is much larger in the manga, so I guess you can do two ends
It also takes place on the second to top floor
It takes place in the arigawa restraunt in shimbashi which in real life is 12 stories however it is much larger in the manga, so I guess you can do two ends
It also takes place on the second to top floor
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High 8-C Yujiro? bro, just the claims of being stronger than any nation's weapons would make him at least 8-B
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The feat was not debunked, KT just stopped answering you, he gave exactly the perfect explanation of why you two made no sense
"An earthquake in definition is the sudden slip of a fault.
There wouldn't just be multiple sudden slips that keep producing more and more radiated energy batches as if it's a call of duty zombies wave."
This is a big downgrade for the verse, and apparently you only have 3 supporters, don't act like everything is already solved
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Cool, 8-B Yujiro then
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Wouldn't being stronger than any nations weapon be like 7-C via Little Boy/Fat Man/Any random nuke?
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We have in universe confirmation that they have never used nukes on him and he is constantly stated above the military which doesn't necessarily mean nukes
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So would he still scale above non-nuclear bombs like the Father of all Bombs?
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I honestly see that Yujiro could fit as 7-B, but as he seems to be very controversial on the wiki, we'll try to keep him at a lower margin within tier 7
Yujiro has statements like:
"Strongest weapons of an entire nation can't measure up to brute strength"
"Above any of the latest missiles"
Though the atomic bomb thing is controversial, the show constantly hints that no other weapon could kill him, including more than once quotes and images of actual missiles.
There are missiles like the Trident, the wiki classifies it between 7-C and High 7-C
Some time ago I also tried to calculate a potential Pickle feat, and got at least 8-B to Low 7-B, could some member of the calculation group redo it to get a more accurate result
Yujiro has statements like:
"Strongest weapons of an entire nation can't measure up to brute strength"
"Above any of the latest missiles"
Though the atomic bomb thing is controversial, the show constantly hints that no other weapon could kill him, including more than once quotes and images of actual missiles.
There are missiles like the Trident, the wiki classifies it between 7-C and High 7-C
Some time ago I also tried to calculate a potential Pickle feat, and got at least 8-B to Low 7-B, could some member of the calculation group redo it to get a more accurate result
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tbh I forgot about the Trident, thanks!
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Yes there seems to be actual evidence in verse of that
This link is down
Yeas this seems way more consistent that he's above all conventional weapons
I still think we should ere on the side of safety considering these are still nukes which he hasn't been confirmed above explicitly
I don't know about everyone else but I would be willing to compromise with a "possibly 7-B" if that's what it takes to make everyone happy
You'd have to get it checked but regarding that I believe he got frozen due to the ash or dust as opposed to actually being within the explosion and the statement itself seems to open ended to make anything of it.
I believe there's actually a page that shows how far away he was though so if your could find that then maybe we'd have something more concrete
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I'd definitely be willing to compromise on this with a solid 8-A rating so it looks like "8-A, possibly 7-B"
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Are you kiding?
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Tell me - is the feat of stopping the earthquake debunked?
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Can you give more accurate scans of the feat?
Curvature of the earth done wrong
Moreover, you used the diameter of the explosion instead of the radius, finding its power
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In addition, I did not see any statement that Pickle was in the explosion. Judging by the fact that it was precisely frozen, it was far away from it, because the shock wave does not carry the properties of freezing
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Baki - Son Of Ogre - Chapter 81
Baki - Son Of Ogre - Chapter 81 : The sequel to the Baki series, supposed to concentrate around the conflict of Baki vs his father.Order:1-Baki the Grappler (1991-1999) 42 volumes(https://bato.to/comic/_/comics/grappler-baki-r2434)2-New Grappler Baki (1999-2005) 31...
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No, we don't have a single proof of that. Yujiro's father survived the bombing of the island, but it happened behind the scenes and we don't even know how far he was from the explosions and how much energy he took.
The usual winged expression.
No one said that "it hits harder than a nuclear bomb"
To survive a nuclear explosion, the 8-C character only needs to move a hundred meters away
This is a good supporting statement. Although still not proof.
As far as I remember, in the last thread you decided to go with "what is shown, not stated". I consider it safe.
I mean, if the verse had a clear 7-B or 7-A feat, I wouldn't consider it an outlier and accepted it.
However, all these are just statements, against the background of the fact that all the exploits in the verse are at best 9-A/8-C and one somewhat dubious feat with the Baki earthquake, which depends on how long the pixley line we make
As far as I remember, in the last thread you decided to go with "what is shown, not stated". I consider it safe.
I mean, if the verse had a clear 7-B or 7-A feat, I wouldn't consider it an outlier and accepted it.
However, all these are just statements, against the background of the fact that all the exploits in the verse are at best 9-A/8-C and one somewhat dubious feat with the Baki earthquake, which depends on how long the pixley line we make
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Want to ask the geologists:
Does it makes sense that stopping only the shockwaves with a one-time effort can cancel tectonic movements to the point people do not feel anything on the crust surface?
Otherwise the punch must be stopping the earthquake by any means.
Does it makes sense that stopping only the shockwaves with a one-time effort can cancel tectonic movements to the point people do not feel anything on the crust surface?
Otherwise the punch must be stopping the earthquake by any means.
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To do this, you need to fix the tictonic plates
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Moreover, the earthquake feat has other problems. The characters could be right in the epicenter, and its real magnitude could be below 4.
In general, the feat itself does not make sense, but it would not make sense even more if Yujiro stopped the earthquake by hitting only the edge of the earthquake
In general, the feat itself does not make sense, but it would not make sense even more if Yujiro stopped the earthquake by hitting only the edge of the earthquake
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Well, the reason why we deny 7-B Yujiro is due to the lack of concrete evidence, but in the case of missiles, it is specified that it is above the most modern ones, and that in a way includes those that carry nuclear technology
Here is the statement
Here is the impact
My idea was to consider that Pickle was at the limiting edge of the explosion, so he received less energy than the total impact
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Bruh, if we consider that the earthquake is mag 4, and that Yujiro scales to full seismic energy, then the feat would not be Mountain Level but Large Town, this would make it consistent with the statement of being above the missiles
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This is the assumption of an ordinary worker who did not even believe that Pickle could attack a dinosaur.
"Considering the size of the T-Rex, I wouldn't say it attacked him. Rather, he was stunned by the explosion of a meteorite that landed nearby.
But even if we imagine that Pickle was on the edge of an explosion. Substituting the correct values will give us High 8-C/8-B (baseline)
Earth Diameter = 4510 pixels = 12742 km;
Explosion diameter = 540 pixels = 1525 km;
Explosion radius = 762.5 km;
762500^3×((27136×1.37895+8649)^(1/2)/13568-93/13568)^2 = 3,5629117 × 10^13 tons of TNT;
A = (4×3,14×762500^2)/2 = 3,6512313 × 10^12 m^2;
E = 3,5629117 × 10^13/3,6512313 × 10^12 = 9,758 Tons of TNT
Using our trusty surface area calculator, we get 3,63 m^2. Half this for cross-sectional area and we get 1,815 m^2.
9,758 * 1,815 = 17,71 Tons of TNT (8-B);
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The problem is that even 4 is a random estimate.
It could have been a magnitude 2 earthquake or even 1.
The very fact that Yujiro stopped the tectonic plates with a blow is a huge outburst. Moreover, it doesn't make sense and can't be calculated.
A blow equal to the force of an earthquake would only strengthen it, not weaken it. Attempts to calculate this and explain that "this is anime, everything is stupid here" look like pulling 7 tier by the ears
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The ground was shaking and the bare minimum for shaking stuff is magnitude 4 iirc
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Magnitude is defined in relation to how it feels from a distance. At the epicenter it will be higher
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The earthquake was felt in the city next to them
I'll assume it's Tokyo.
The length of Tokyo = 90 km;
Since the earthquake was felt outside the buildings and we observed ripples, I will give this a minimum of 4.5 points.
4.5 = x + 1,1644 + 0,0048 * 90 = 2.9 points;
I'll assume it's Tokyo.
The length of Tokyo = 90 km;
Since the earthquake was felt outside the buildings and we observed ripples, I will give this a minimum of 4.5 points.
4.5 = x + 1,1644 + 0,0048 * 90 = 2.9 points;
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And this still does not negate the fact that in this way the earthquake would not be stopped, but strengthened.
By the way, we can take the timeframe from the anime for which the earthquake stopped.
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