August Large Country Level

[KaiserReinhardt]

I agree with demon on this, with magic power alone both pre fh zeref and pre rot acnologia should be above august who has enough magic power to destroy fiora.

August said: "And even if it cost me my life. I,August, the greatest of the spriggan 12. Posses enough [power] to wipe this entire country of the face of the world."

Here august says that he alone has enough magic power to destroy the whole of fiora, leaving nothing behind.

The amount of magic powers is linked to the amount of powerful attacks you can use, if you start using a powerful magic spell with little bit of magic power. You will only end up dead.

August magic power was enough to reach the whole of fiora, and fiora is a large country. If pre fh zeref and pre rot acnologia were stronger then august, that means that they also had more magic power then august.

 

[LordGinSama]

Again you guys are literally ignoring other arguments and continue using flawed logic. This scales to August and August only via a durability negating suicide attack that's more akin to hax and environmental destruction as opposed to AP and durability.

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Again you guys are literally ignoring other arguments and continue using flawed logic. This scales to August and August only via a durability negating suicide attack that's more akin to hax and environmental destruction as opposed to AP and durability.

But the only way August would be able to destroy Fiore with that spell is if he had enough Magic Power to expand it across the whole Country, which he does. The spell itself doesn't on it's own destroy Countries, If Somehow Wendy used this spell at her max power, it would probably only destroy a mountain, but August's Massive Magic Power allows him to destroy the country at his full power. The Size of the Destruction isn't what kills August, it's that it is a curse type spell that guarantees a kill by the evaporation of everything

Base Zeref and Acnologia>August, however that isn't enough to justify Large Country Level Zeref, Fair enough, However if you give Zeref Fairy Heart, which apparently has enough power combined with the Ravines of Time, to Possibly Reset a Timeline (No I don't mean this is proof of Tier 2 Fairy Tail), it is 100% reasonable that FH Zeref is Large Country Level, along with Acnologia

 

[Soldier_Blue]

I actually thought Fairy Heart Zeref would be High 6-B based on absorbing Fairy Heart which is an apparently infinite source of magic, and can essentially be used to spam Etherion.

Mavis herself described Fairy Heart as a battery with infinite power supply. That's all it is.

 

[BlackeJan]

Arent there other countries that r smaller then Fiore?

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Arent there other countries that r smaller then Fiore?

There is one that looks slightly smaller, the rest look either the same size or way bigger, I really don't think Mavis would be talking about the smallest Country though, I'm pretty sure Fiore could be a baseline, and if you're gonna use that as an argument, I could just say, what if she was talking about the peregrande Kingdom, which is the biggest that looks like its 12x the size of Fiore, but I believe both Mavis and August, logically were talking about Fiore

 

[BlackeJan]

There is one that looks slightly smaller, the rest look either the same size or way bigger, I really don't think Mavis would be talking about the smallest Country though, I'm pretty sure Fiore could be a baseline, and if you're gonna use that as an argument, I could just say, what if she was talking about the peregrande Kingdom, which is the biggest that looks like its 12x the size of Fiore, but I believe both Mavis and August, logically were talking about Fiore

It would be cool if we calculate the other countries that look smaller. Thats also the point Im trying to get at, if we were 2 do a calc of the countries that look smaller (and they end up being smaller then Fiore) then what i stated was true that we just dont know destructive size of Etherion is even by what Mavis says (its MAX power could wipe a small or regualr size country but not a large one or maybe it can)

 

[BlackeJan]

Do u see the argument Im getting at? we cant just go by High 6-B right off the bat, we gotta see if its MAX can only destroy a small or regular size country (im pretty sure that the Peregrande Kingdom is the size of a large continent if Fiore is Large Country)

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

OK, fairy enough but, Fiore would be the second Smallest Country tied with others, that are pretty much the same size, the smallest is mila and it's not two times smaller than Fiore, maybe that would be Country Level, however All the rest are either Almost Identical in size to Fiore or Higher, so maybe Etherion is stronger than we thought, But we're Talking about August who was Going to destroy Fiore, so that's why we're trying to scale to Him

 

[BlackeJan]

OK, fairy enough but, Fiore would be the second Smallest Country tied with others, that are pretty much the same size, the smallest is mila and it's not two times smaller than Fiore, maybe that would be Country Level, however All the rest are either Almost Identical in size to Fiore or Higher, so maybe Etherion is stronger than we thought, But we're Talking about August who was Going to destroy Fiore, so that's why we're trying to scale to Him

The reason why I said that b/c Etherion is High 6-B and since Acno absorbed Ravine of Time > Etherion that makes him also High 6-B and since Fiore is High 6-B, that would make August High 6-B w/ his Suicide Attack but others say that would have him scale to Acno (if someone did say that). This all kind of factors from Etherion and thats why i said that we need to do other calcs for the smaller countries and see how actually destructive is Etherion (i alreadt said my argument from b4)

 

[Delta3000]

Couldn't we just calc how much heat August would have to emit to vaporize the blood of every one in range and use that as the spells AP?

 

[Captain_Torch]

This thread :/

August shouldn't be High 6-B with his suicide spell because it is hax. He should have High 6-B Range though.

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Nah, he still got High 6-B via environmental destruction at the very least.

 

[Captain_Torch]

Oh, I must have explained myself wrong. I meant he doesn't have High 6-B DC, but his range and Environmental Destruction is definetly High 6-B, yeah

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

^This.

And this doesn't scale to anyone however.

 

[Captain_Torch]

Yep

 

[BlackeJan]

Can we calc the other countries that r smaller then Fiore plz?

 

[AidenBrooks999]

Fiore is the second smallest, and the smallest one is by a small margin

 

[BlackeJan]

Fiore is the second smallest, and the smallest one is by a small margi

We should still at least calc the smallest one to see if its a large country or just a regular size one

EDIT: there should be another country that looks smaller then Fiore

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

But why does that matter, on the off chance that Etherion can only destroy the smallest country, we should scale to that, that seems a little silly, I think Fiore should be the logical scale

 

[Captain_Torch]

I created a thread that adresses the Etherion topic. There is actually a calc concerning it, so this might answer the question:

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/1399677

 

[CNBA3]

Ishgar is not a country it's a continent, Fiore is the country, so yes he is large country via Melting equivalent destruction

 

[BlackeJan]

But why does that matter, on the off chance that Etherion can only destroy the smallest country, we should scale to that, that seems a little silly, I think Fiore should be the logical scale

Yes we must calc for the smaller countries to see if they r also around the same size as Fiore (if also High 6-B) but if not then we need to address Etherion again