Atom (Real Steel) VS Freddy Fazbear (Games)

[BigSmoke4269]

Freddy likely wins without possessing him

Explain please (I missed most of the discussion)

 

[HeadlessKramerGeoff777]

Freddy either physically or possesses to win. Got it.

 

[Soupywolf5]

Atom's only advantages are skill, and lifting strength (And in that they're mostly even), while Freddy has the advantage in literally everything else, and type 2 immortality lets him take more damage

 

[BigSmoke4269]

I've already explained that Freddy himself would no longer be functional and since destroying the soul isn't part of the fight that would be inconclusive

 

[Soupywolf5]

Also I'm about to make a vs. match and one character's AP has 3 different values all in the same tier (As in the calc has 3 values), so which one do I use? Do I use the one that makes the match most fair?

 

[BigSmoke4269]

Are you asking if you should use the high end or low end? Because I think you shouldn't use either one

 

[Soupywolf5]

There's three values for it?

 

[Soupywolf5]

I've already explained that Freddy himself would no longer be functional and since destroying the soul isn't part of the fight that would be inconclusive

What?

 

[Soupywolf5]

I am just so confused as to what is happening

 

[HeadlessKramerGeoff777]

The soul is Freddy, so it is a part of the fight.

 

[BigSmoke4269]

What?

Basically:

Atom destroys/disables/beats Freddy (I'll explain why).

Crying Child possesses Atom.

Atom is possessed and incapacitated.

Freddy is dismantled.

If destroying Freddy's physical body is the only goal of the fight (which many versus threads have proved), that goal is accomplished, but Atom is still incapped. Inconclusive.

 

[Soupywolf5]

Except Freddy also has a shiny new body to Kill Charlie keep himself from being incapacitated

 

[HeadlessKramerGeoff777]

It is only the goal of the fights in other threads at it disable Freddy from hurting the opponent normally. That isn't the case in this fight.

 

[Soupywolf5]

Are you asking if you should use the high end or low end? Because I think you shouldn't use either one

Also what do you mean?

 

[BigSmoke4269]

Also what do you mean?

There is generally a high end, a low end, and a compromise in a calc. You should go for the compromise.

 

[HeadlessKramerGeoff777]

There is two calcs for different skull crushing feats, not high end and low end

 

[BigSmoke4269]

It is only the goal of the fights in other threads at it disable Freddy from hurting the opponent normally. That isn't the case in this fight.

I may change my vote...although, whose profile would we even put this victory on? Technically Freddy didn't win. The child did.

 

[BigSmoke4269]

why didn't the animatronics dismantle themselves and possess their child corpses

 

[HeadlessKramerGeoff777]

The child is Freddy

 

[BigSmoke4269]

I wasn't replying to #213 wtf

 

[BigSmoke4269]

Oh god MAKE IT STOP

 

[Soupywolf5]

There is two calcs for different skull crushing feats, not high end and low end

That's not what I'm talking about I'm talking about this

 

[Soupywolf5]

To stop being so vague it's a Cuphead character and the profiles don't specify which one to use

 

[HeadlessKramerGeoff777]

Then show the example, though that is derailing the thread. Just put it on my message wall if you want help.

 

[Soupywolf5]

It's getting pretty late so I'm going to get some sleep now.

 

[HeadlessKramerGeoff777]

Night people

 

[Joaco0902]

Ok, so I see everything is getting pretty confusing, so I will clear things out.

If Freddy geta dismantled, he has ten minutes to take control of Atom and kill Charlie. If he does, he wins. If he doesn't, Atom wins.

Note: Charlie is peak human in speed.

 

[HeadlessKramerGeoff777]

Literally nothing was confusing

 

[Joaco0902]

Then I got confused myself...

 

[HeadlessKramerGeoff777]

There is no need to add more win conditions to cause others to get confused. It is pretty simple. Freddy either wins physically, or wins when his spirit possesses Atom.

 

[Joaco0902]

Cool

 

[AnonymousBlank]

If Freddy just possesses in the event he loses in a fight, this is a stomp.

 

[HeadlessKramerGeoff777]

Atom wins if he dismantles Freddy to the point he can't fight, but not to the point that Freddy can leave his body. Since Atom doesn't know Freddy has a possessive spirit, and Freddy will be able to attack for quite a while due Immortality Type 2, Atom will likely go for completely dismantling Freddy. That is the worst, and last thing he will ever do.

 

[HeadlessKramerGeoff777]

This isn't a stomp as Atom can win.

 

[Moritzva]

...if Freddy is just going to possess upon death, this is a hard stomp without prior knowledge. It's like saying "(x) can win if they get the vampire into sunlight!" despite them having absolutely no clue what and who vampires are. Heck, that's more likely to not be a stomp than this.

 

[Joaco0902]

Can anything be done to save this from not being a Stomp?

 

[HeadlessKramerGeoff777]

Prior knowledge that Freddy's soul can possess Atom if it receives enough damage.

 

[BigSmoke4269]

So, in other words, preperation (which he'd probably have in a boxing match anyways).

 

[Joaco0902]

Done.

 

[Modernmyrmidon]

When has Freddy ever possessed anything on his own? And he especially never possessed anything after his body was destroyed. In FNaF 3 when his body was destroyed all he could do was haunt Afton and yeah his intention probably wasn't to possess anything else, however, there isn't any implication that he can do so.