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The way this is written is already distinctly irritating, because it implies some amount of insight from the narrator but also it is filtered through the perception of, based on the tone, a child (?) protagonist. Still, this seems an unlikely thing to fudge up, so no issue here. Might be an issue for later points.Chica is six feet tall (PDF page 13)
Maybe, could reasonably be interpreted as Foxy being more inclined to running than the others. Still, we'll see how relevant it actually is.Foxy usually moves faster than Bonnie or Chica (PDF page 27)
Reaffirms previous six-foot-tall thing, ig.Bonnie is six feet tall (PDF page 41)
am I insane or was this already a thingChica's cupcake is a separate animatronic named Mr. Cupcake (PDF page 103)
193 seems hazy but 136 seems basically acceptable. Fear seems the most likely explanation, at least.The other animatronics are afraid of Freddy (PDF pages 136 and [possibly] 193)
Again, the phrasing being from a child, it's hazy, but given how rudimentary the measurement is, I figure it meets our minimum requirements for reliability.The animatronics are 300+ pounds (PDF pages 175 and 247)
Was she in previous iterations, or is this new intel (the light flashing thing)?Chica isn't disoriented by bright lights (PDF page 189)
Nothing on the page states this is Golden Freddy, but. Sure. Although if this contradicts other media, I'd say we need to look at which pieces should be taken over the others, since this feels like a weird thing to point out. Just. Moving.Golden Freddy can stand and move (PDF page 253)
Below Average, but duly noted.Animatronics know how to end phone calls: Below Average/Average (PDF page 61)
Is it confirmed to be Foxy doing this? It just seems sort of implied it's happening while he's there? It can still be an intelligence feat either way, I guess, in that he's arguably using the flickering lights to cover his approach. That said, this sort of behavior can be used by animals, so. Not sure.Foxy causes the lights to flicker to help him sneak up on Ralph: Average/Above Average (PDF page 75)
Setting a trap doesn't strictly denote Above Average. I'd go with Average.Chica sets Mr. Cupcake as a trap: Above Average (PDF page 104)
Could be Below Average, but aye, good.Chica and Foxy check the cameras to find Ralph: Average (PDF page 198)
Understanding speech can be done at Below Average. Somehow all of these are like. Presented as being exactly one rung above what they really seem like, to me, lol. Still, this is good. This finally adds context that the protagonist is an adult- the previous estimations of 300 pounds and 6 feet were acceptable before, but now they have more merit.Foxy understands Ralph and Coppelia's speaking and agrees to not harm the latter: Average (PDF page 210)
This is an interesting one. Lots of average ordinary people do this every day, it's their jobs and it doesn't require high intelligence, rather training instead. But they aren't trained. If nothing else, I can call this a possible indication of above average.The animatronics figure out how to store enough power to escape the pizzeria: Above Average (PDF page 228)
A distraction isn't fundamentally above average, it could even be as low as Below Average. Still. My end interpretation of the Intelligence feats is Average, possibly Above Average. A significant majority of their Intelligence feats aren't really notable for proving 1:1 intelligence to an adult human, but some exist, so.Bonnie distracts Ralph to let the others leave: Above Average (PDF page 236)
Freddy sneaks up on Ralph: Stealth Mastery (PDF page 18)
Without a sense of the distance at which Foxy heard Ralph, it's sorta hard to give this, but I'll sign off on it for now.Foxy hears Ralph in the bathroom from Pirate Cove: Enhanced Senses (PDF page 27)
I think you misread this one. "almost imperceptible" is used to describe the subtle sounds of Foxy's servos moving, not the latch on the bathroom stall. It's also Ralph doing the hearing, not Foxy, in that sentence; "almost imperceptible" does technically mean "perceptible".Foxy hears Ralph shift his hold on the stall door, which is almost imperceptible: Enhanced Senses (PDF page 33)
Yep.Someone (definitely Golden Freddy) causes Ralph to hear whispers and singing from an empty stall: Perception Manipulation (PDF page 39)
This isn't really Telepathy, this is still Perception Manipulation.
- Golden Freddy causes Ralph's phone to short out: Technology Manipulation (PDF page 63)
- Golden Freddy causes Ralph to hear a child laughing in his head: Telepathy (PDF page 63)
Text here seems to imply someone just took the head. There's nothing on this page about Body Control. Type 2 Immortality seems obvious for all of them, but sure, on that one.Bonnie removes his head and operates it separately from his body: Type 2 Immortality and Body Control (PDF page 66)
Again, seems to me that the verbiage used is that Foxy is just using flickering lights, rather than causing it? It's plausible, at least, so I'll call this a possibly for now. Stealth Mastery is fine.Foxy causes the lights to flicker to help him sneak up on Ralph: Technology Manipulation and Stealth Mastery (PDF page 75)
It's worth noting that this isn't applicable all over the body. They have particular apparatus in their feet that allows them to recharge. This also isn't a "resistance" to electricity manipulation, at all. If anything, most machines are probably very much vulnerable to that shit. There's nothing here to suggest these guys are any different.The animatronics charge themselves with electricity: Electricity Absorption and Resistance to Electricity Manipulation (PDF page 78)
Yerp.Chica sneaks up on Ralph: Stealth Mastery (PDF page 92)
I think it's a bit vague to give anything for without any further context. Sorry.Chica locks a door without a key: Possibly Telekinesis (PDF page 96)
Two points of Psychic Damage. Extremely limited but, sure.Ralph gets a lighter: Minor Fire Manipulation (PDF page 100)
Presumably Golden Freddy again. And sure.Someone causes Ralph to hear a child's laughter: Perception Manipulation (PDF page 106)
This isn't explicitly him hearing, he's just begun looking at the camera. Gonna say no to this one.Freddy hears Ralph in the office from the stage: Enhanced Senses (PDF page 111)
Are we still saying "someone" for stuff that, even from what little I've read, is evidently related to Golden FreddySomeone creates children's laughter through Ralph's phone and causes his phone screen to say "SAVETHEM": Technology Manipulation (PDF page 120)
This isn't the most direct assumption. We already know they can operate technology, and this is the sort of information that would be on an employee's file. Clairvoyance seems unlikely.The animatronics know where Ralph's house is: Clairvoyance (PDF page 125)
Possible Golden Freddy didn't cause it, but given other stuff, it seems likely he did. It's Limited in functionality, but sure.Someone (probably Golden Freddy) causes Ralph to dream of someone stuffed in a Freddy suit: Dream Manipulation (PDF page 127)
Is there something on a preceding page causing you to say this was Chica? She seems even outright upset by the situation, and this reads more like something from Golden Freddy, given he's been doing mental fuckery the whole time, it seems.Chica causes Ralph to sing happy birthday to her, even putting the name Susie into his head: Mind Manipulation (PDF page 141)
Yerp.
Again, intel could be gained in other ways. Disagree with Clairvoyance.The animatronics know that Ralph is leaving on night 5: Clairvoyance (PDF page 182)
I really wish these ******* links worked so I could determine the sequence here. Is the other door locked? Holding off on judging this for now.Chica appears in the security office despite both doors being closed: Possibly Teleportation (PDF pages 185 and 186)
Does this guy know the difference between Freddy and Golden Freddy? In previous pages it has seemed like the answer is "no", and again, him attributing this to Freddy seems to imply Golden Freddy.Freddy is directly responsible for the posters on the walls changing: Perception Manipulation/Reality Warping (PDF page 204)
First one is in a weird state where they present it as though it may just be a mental break on the behalf of Ralph. These are all very weird, actually? They are suits (sorta), is it possible they get stuffed in? The last one even directly implies this. It seems like the more likely explanation if it's still relatively comparable to earlier stuff. Something is happening here (they adopt the mannerisms of "It's Me" when they're taken, although the exact reason for that isn't known, and doesn't seem attributable to the other animatronics). For now I have to disagree with this interpretation provided by the OP.Freddy causes Ralph to see and act through Freddy's body, Chica causes Coppelia to inhabit her body, and Golden Freddy seemingly does the same with Bronwen Light: Perception Manipulation and Sound Manipulation (PDF pages 206, 229, 248, and 258)
Yerp.The animatronics cause the cameras, phone, and doors to malfunction by screaming: Technology Manipulation (PDF page 213)
"Foxy isn't totally and permanently blinded by a flashlight" isn't what we would usually hand out Reactive Evolution for. Disagree.Foxy adapts to be less sensitive to light: Minor Reactive Evolution (PDF page 218)
Having a recording of an event isn't really Technology Manipulation, nor is playing a recording a manipulation of Technology.Someone plays a voice recording of The Big Bite: Technology Manipulation (PDF page 223)
This scan doesn't show her reading Ralph's mind. This may be an error? Unless the implication is that knowing the name of Ralph's daughter is the mind-reading? Does it later explicitly call it as such?Bronwen Light repeatedly reads Ralph's mind: Telepathy (PDF page 227)
Doesn't mention anything about sneaking. Stealth Mastery is afforded by other things, just being at his house doesn't give it.Freddy sneaks to Ralph's house: Stealth Mastery (PDF page 236)
Possibly. She's not "traumatized", she just found them creepy. Could change given the circumstances. She's a young child, I don't think this is enough to be Empathic Manipulation specifically. The "It's Me" thing implies Golden Freddy fuckery, which so far has strong implications of mind shit (I've accepted a good amount of it so far), so. Make of that what you will.Freddy causes Coppelia to see him as her friend despite having traumatized her years ago: Empathic Manipulation (PDF pages 236 and 265)
I'm not certain anyone but Ralph is doing this. He imagines it full of people, and then those people look dead. It's another possibly from me. Perception Manip was accepted earlier anyways, ig.Someone gives Ralph a vision of dead people: Perception Manipulation (PDF page 243)
This feels like double dipping, as this was previously cited as Perception Manipulation and Sound Manipulation a few points back- this exact page. Realistically, I interpret this scene as Coppelia being literally taken into a suit. I don't believe this to be a dream- it is dreamlike, calling it a dream is a creative choice regarding the protagonist's dissociation from reality and his imminent death (and, given the lack of sleeping, could be a "daydream"). Even if I were to take this as not literally happening, e.g. being an actual dream, nowhere does it accredit that to Foxy. He can dream about traumatic events without the help of the animatronic fox.Foxy causes Ralph to dream that Coppelia possesses Chica: Dream Manipulation (PDF page 248)
Telepathy is not really the ability here. More like Mind Manipulation. Pain Manip is limited in that it is dependent on Mind ManipGolden Freddy forces Ralph to think, see, hear, and feel the words "It's me", which causes him pain: Telepathy and Pain Manipulation (PDF page 253)
what the hell lolBy putting his weight on Ralph's mind, Golden Freddy causes Ralph to experience excruciating pain and a nosebleed: Mind Manipulation and Pain Manipulation (PDF page 253)
What makes this more Durability Negation than the others? This doesn't even seem to interact with Durability whatsoever- Ralph isn't ostensibly harmed by this. Notably, the immediately preceding evidence does cause physical harm via mental manipulation, which does qualify for the ability- so I don't contend the ability, just that this is evidence of it.Golden Freddy causes Ralph to think "Itsme" over and over again and speaks in his head as a woman, which causes him to "go to sleep": Telepathy and Durability Negation (PDF page 258)
I somehow didn't think to use screenshots. I'm sorry about that.Given this is the most inefficient CRT of all time (read: my comment on the PDF thing, so I have to load a new archive.org webpage for each and every piece of evidence), this may not be posted the same day I'm typing it. I'm working on it, alright.
She's not affected by it in FNAF 2, but Bonnie isn't affected by it either in that game despite being affected in this book, so it's technically new.Was she in previous iterations, or is this new intel (the light flashing thing)?
Nothing on the page states this is Golden Freddy, but. Sure.
They did, it's just an additional justification.did they really not have Stealth Mastery already
Looking back, all Bonnie's head does is look around, so, agreed.Text here seems to imply someone just took the head. There's nothing on this page about Body Control.
Fair.This isn't explicitly him hearing, he's just begun looking at the camera. Gonna say no to this one.
I can't believe I missed that. Agreed.It's worth noting that this isn't applicable all over the body. They have particular apparatus in their feet that allows them to recharge. This also isn't a "resistance" to electricity manipulation, at all. If anything, most machines are probably very much vulnerable to that shit. There's nothing here to suggest these guys are any different.
Possible Golden Freddy didn't cause it, but given other stuff, it seems likely he did
Is there something on a preceding page causing you to say this was Chica? She seems even outright upset by the situation, and this reads more like something from Golden Freddy, given he's been doing mental fuckery the whole time, it seems.
A lot of the stuff that is attributed to Golden Freddy is due to the repeated usage of "IT'S ME" in these instances, which is GF's catchphrase. Chica and Freddy do both say it once, but every other instance with a known culprit is GF. Supernatural stuff is generally only associated with GF if "IT'S ME" appears, hence why Ralph being compelled to sing Happy Birthday and Ralph seeing through Freddy are attributed to the most directly connected animatronics, Chica and Freddy respectively, instead of Golden Freddy.Does this guy know the difference between Freddy and Golden Freddy? In previous pages it has seemed like the answer is "no", and again, him attributing this to Freddy seems to imply Golden Freddy.
Does this guy know the difference between Freddy and Golden Freddy? In previous pages it has seemed like the answer is "no", and again, him attributing this to Freddy seems to imply Golden Freddy.
I really wish these ******* links worked so I could determine the sequence here. Is the other door locked?
This scan doesn't show her reading Ralph's mind. This may be an error? Unless the implication is that knowing the name of Ralph's daughter is the mind-reading? Does it later explicitly call it as such?
That actually makes a lot more sense. Agreed.This feels like double dipping, as this was previously cited as Perception Manipulation and Sound Manipulation a few points back- this exact page. Realistically, I interpret this scene as Coppelia being literally taken into a suit. I don't believe this to be a dream- it is dreamlike, calling it a dream is a creative choice regarding the protagonist's dissociation from reality and his imminent death (and, given the lack of sleeping, could be a "daydream"). Even if I were to take this as not literally happening, e.g. being an actual dream, nowhere does it accredit that to Foxy. He can dream about traumatic events without the help of the animatronic fox.
Telepathy is not really the ability here. More like Mind Manipulation. Pain Manip is limited in that it is dependent on Mind Manipand also doesn't really do anything
what the hell lol
this is the exact same thing as last one, what happened here
Agree with all of these. I have no idea what I was on when I made this CRT lmao. So, just Mind Manip and Dura Neg?What makes this more Durability Negation than the others? This doesn't even seem to interact with Durability whatsoever- Ralph isn't ostensibly harmed by this. Notably, the immediately preceding evidence does cause physical harm via mental manipulation, which does qualify for the ability- so I don't contend the ability, just that this is evidence of it.
First one is in a weird state where they present it as though it may just be a mental break on the behalf of Ralph. These are all very weird, actually? They are suits (sorta), is it possible they get stuffed in? The last one even directly implies this. It seems like the more likely explanation if it's still relatively comparable to earlier stuff. Something is happening here (they adopt the mannerisms of "It's Me" when they're taken, although the exact reason for that isn't known, and doesn't seem attributable to the other animatronics). For now I have to disagree with this interpretation provided by the OP.
In hindsight, these are way too vague to use.Possibly. She's not "traumatized", she just found them creepy. Could change given the circumstances. She's a young child, I don't think this is enough to be Empathic Manipulation specifically. The "It's Me" thing implies Golden Freddy fuckery, which so far has strong implications of mind shit (I've accepted a good amount of it so far), so. Make of that what you will.
Setting a trap doesn't strictly denote Above Average. I'd go with Average.
Understanding speech can be done at Below Average.
This isn't the most direct assumption. We already know they can operate technology, and this is the sort of information that would be on an employee's file. Clairvoyance seems unlikely.
Agreed."Foxy isn't totally and permanently blinded by a flashlight" isn't what we would usually hand out Reactive Evolution for. Disagree.
Doesn't FNAF3 take place after FNAF1, when Ralph's already dead? I don't think they're the same person.I can't see how Phone Guy wouldn't know the difference between Freddy and GF, especially since FNAF 3's phone calls confirm that Phone Guy was aware of the springlock suits (i.e. Spring Bonnie and Fredbear/Golden Freddy.)
They're vintage audio recordings, meaning that they were originally recorded decades before FNAF 3. Also, Phone Guy's calls go from instructing employees on how to wear the springlock suits to announcing that the suits have been de-commissioned, implying that the springlock failures happened during the era that the calls were recorded in.Doesn't FNAF3 take place after FNAF1, when Ralph's already dead? I don't think they're the same person.
I hate to announce it, but without a solid statement of the number of slashes used, we can't assume that it is Wall level. We still have some other good feats, though.Being that the door was reduced to splinters (violent fragmentation) with slashes (around three minimum I'd presume), it would be a third of wooden door VA, or 378.707246666666 kj
Bambu has evaluated a FNaF CRT. Roll 1 d10 and take that much psychic damage.Snip
Yeah, we can. Mha's whole scaling for lower tiers comes from a similarly vague feat.I hate to announce it, but without a solid statement of the number of slashes used, we can't assume that it is Wall level. We still have some other good feats, though.
I didn't know this was Phone Guy, not much seems to imply that (from purely the pages linked to- it's not as though I read the whole book). I'm on the fence about attributing the more supernatural stuff to the normal animatronics when Golden Freddy is obviously involved, so count me as neutral for now, but I'll bear this intel in mind."But he keeps trying-you know it has to be Freddy's doing." I can't see how Phone Guy wouldn't know the difference between Freddy and GF, especially since FNAF 3's phone calls confirm that Phone Guy was aware of the springlock suits (i.e. Spring Bonnie and Fredbear/Golden Freddy.)
Eh. I guess. I read that as just being funny for a kid's book but it might be. I'll accept it as a possibly."'That's impossible' you think." "'It's not impossible,' she continues." It's not explicit, as it could just be for comedic effect.
It's alright. The evaluation process allows more eyes to look over things for that very reason. I do want you to do screenshots next time though, lol. I'll try to get to the rest of it later on (don't know when, Christmas/New Years and stuff)I'd really like to apologize for how weird this whole thing was.no wonder no one wanted to review itThank you for being willing to comb through everything.
Actually, I just noticed something: When Freddy and Chica say "it's me", it makes sense in context (Freddy responding to Ralph asking who he is and Coppelia telling Ralph that she's been stuffed in Chica). Every instance of it that has no proper context is Golden Freddy. So that's something, at least.Tbh, I am no longer sure, how much we can trust "it's me" being Golden Freddy anymore, while it's more likely to be him than the others, it is no longer a guarantee...
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eh uh nope not said anything yet from what I knowHas Bambu said whether or not he agrees with the thread? I believe we would only need to staff approvals for the changes.
I'm working on it. It's not very high priority, and I've replied to the important shit already- most of the stat area changes nothing, since most of it is just seemingly asking for recognition that "yes, this is a feat" or "no, you may have it wrong", with no statistical propositions held within. There's a single one with a calc and it's mired in context. Still. Give it time.Has Bambu said whether or not he agrees with the thread? I believe we would only need to staff approvals for the changes.
Sounds good, I didn’t mean to rush you or anything, I was just somewhat nervous that this thread would be in bump hell again since you hadn’t said anything for a while.I'm working on it. It's not very high priority, and I've replied to the important shit already- most of the stat area changes nothing, since most of it is just seemingly asking for recognition that "yes, this is a feat" or "no, you may have it wrong", with no statistical propositions held within. There's a single one with a calc and it's mired in context. Still. Give it time.