Arifureta Shokugyou de Sekai Saikyou Discussion Thread 2

[Digital_Franz]

IDK, Im trying.

Can you give a better example ?

Nah.

N°1 is just a natural chicken empowered by conception.

N°2 is born from conception and empowered by it.

You can't say N°2 isn't N°1 because he was born from conception. A character dies and is reborn. His second body isn't his original body but he's still who he was.

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

You can't say N°2 isn't N°1 because he was born from conception. A character dies and is reborn. His second body isn't his original body but he's still who he was.

They explicitly said they won't be the same person

「The influx of conception is an upsurge kofuuh, even if that person called “Ehito” obtained life in this world, his personality won’t be the same with the one that you know kofuuh」

Aularodde also added that it was also the same with the case if the legend was real that they talked just now.

In short, the existence here would be a different person with only similar skill and appearance. Everyone understood that explanation. Kouki turned a respectful gaze toward Aularodde, but then his gaze immediately became filled with disappointment next seeing the suspicious person going ‘kofukofuh’ there. Ch 386

But for N°2 he will always be reborn the way he is, because unlike N°1 is a true AE.

 

[Digital_Franz]

They explicitly said they won't be the same person

Just the personality. That's why it's Limited.

But for N°2 he will always be reborn the way he is, because unlike N°1 is a true AE.

No. 1 is not his conception so is not AE Type 1. For No. 2 he will embody the ideas of his conception.

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

For No. 2 he will embody the ideas of his conception.

N°2 will be that conception itself and his body will be AE type 2.


Do you think gaining conception is similar to how they imprint something abstract like ancient magic into someone soul ?

We really need a CRT.

 

[Digital_Franz]

N°2 will be that conception itself and his body will be AE type 2.

I don't see it that way. Anyway, let's wait for the others' opinions.

Do you think gaining conception is similar to how they imprint something abstract like ancient magic into someone soul ?

Probably.

We really need a CRT.

Yes.

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

I don't see it that way. Anyway, let's wait for the others' opinions.

Probably.

Yes.

And if we're right about the previous stuff, conception will be a higher dimensional energy that comes from the origin world.

We could wait until the WN end to gather more info about it.

 

[Digital_Franz]

And if we're right about the previous stuff, conception will be a higher dimensional energy that comes from the origin world.

We could wait until the WN end to gather more info about it.

I think this is the best thing to do.

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

I think this is the best thing to do.

Conception is a little bit similar to Adolla(Fire Force), but unlike the latter conception is a part of the World .

 

[Community_Gamer]

Nah, wait till the WN end.

You'll see it raining upgrades after that.

Don't you wanna see some Time stop ?

No. Time Stop is the least interesting and most common hax (not even just time related hax). I like time accelerating and decelerating stuff as well as resistance. If they get Acasuality, Time Travel, or even better Precog/Future Sight then I'm chilling.

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

No. Time Stop is the least interesting and most common hax (not even just time related hax). I like time accelerating and decelerating stuff as well as resistance. If they get Acasuality, Time Travel, or even better Precog/Future Sight then I'm chilling.

We just found out Time magic could be used to time travel and that the laws of the world don't work on outsiders (Acausality 4).

 

[Digital_Franz]

No. Time Stop is the least interesting and most common hax (not even just time related hax). I like time accelerating and decelerating stuff as well as resistance. If they get Acasuality, Time Travel, or even better Precog/Future Sight then I'm chilling.

It's true that Time Stop isn't very interesting.

 

[Digital_Franz]

We just found out Time magic could be used to time travel and that the laws of the world don't work on outsiders (Acausality 4).

That is interesting.

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

That is interesting.

Already mention it Here.

 

[Community_Gamer]

We just found out Time magic could be used to time travel and that the laws of the world don't work on outsiders (Acausality 4).

Yeah I'm talking about what our main cast can do.

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

Yeah I'm talking about what our main cast can do.

The Acasuality thing apply to all the characters, and it include law and CM type 2 and possibly type 1.

 

[Community_Gamer]

The Acasuality thing apply to all the characters, and it include law and CM type 2 and possibly type 1.

Why would it apply to everyone?

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

Why would it apply to everyone?

From what I understood, the principles of the world only work on the native inhabitants of that world, it's like outsiders don't exist to the world. While characters could affect outsiders as long as they preceive them as existing.

 

[Community_Gamer]

From what I understood, the principles of the world only work on the native inhabitants of that world, it's like outsiders don't exist to the world. While characters could affect outsiders as long as they preceive them as existing.

ehhhh i dont think you'll get that approved but you can try

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

ehhhh i dont think you'll get that approved but you can try

Why not ?

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

This is similar to Hajime eating monsters

Power Absorption (By consuming a Nen user, he grows stronger, and if he eats enough, can also receive Nen abilities from the victim)

Can we add it ?

 

[Digital_Franz]

This is similar to Hajime eating monsters

Can we add it ?

Doesn't he already have it?

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

Doesn't he already have it?

No

 

[Digital_Franz]

No

Let's keep this for a CRT. His first key should have it normally.

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

Let's keep this for a CRT. His first key should have it normally.

Second key, after he became a hybrid.

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

What we know:

1) Conception is energy or particles, and it's the source of the soul and all those supernatural energies.

2) Conception comes from a higher world, and it can help characters raise their existence and resist Concept magic.

3) Soul is made from paticles and it's the source of the will because it fall under the domain of Soul Magic.

“Laus-dono has a theory that both mana and souls are simply different forms of the same energy.”

“Wait, does that mean when we use mana, we’re depleting our souls?”

“Not exactly. His idea is that when energy from the natural world enters people’s bodies, it takes concrete form as either mana or a soul, so they come from the same source, but aren’t one and the same.” Vol 6 p471

4) Willpower+ancient Magic=Concept Magic(CM type 1)

5) Soul is life force

“Apparently, it’s diffused throughout your body. If we think of the body as a vessel, our souls are the liquid energy that fill it up. Every person’s soul is unique, and it’s an integral part of what makes them them. You can think of a soul as a person’s life force. Or so Laus-dono said, anyway.” Vol 6 p471

Natural world energy=planet energy

『This art just my guess but, perhaps the director art manipulating the willpower of the natural world?』

「Hm? What do you mean?」

『It happened once, in the past. A dragonman ignored the process that ordinary people didst where they “took in the magic power of the natural world and convert it into their own magic power” and instead control the magic power as it is.』

「It’s that person’s characteristic magic huh. But still, isn’t that crazy? He got unlimited magic power then?」

『No. It put a heavy burden on him. It seemed that he hath limit in how much natural magic power he couldst control.』Ch 479

Chinaman

「Taoist you see, apparently it originally refers to people training to become immortal sage.」

「Sage……」

「Those two said that when you become a sage, not only you can manipulate your own willpower, you can also control the nature’s willpower as you please or something……」Ch 479

――Apparition Feijiang

He was a high ranked Jiangshi, in other words, Chinese hopping zombie.

Actually Jiangshi was graded from 1 to 8. The standard Jiangshi that often appeared in movie was mostly rank 1 until rank 3 Jiangshi.

Rank 5 Jiangshi that had obtained power of Buddhism and the ability to fly freely, while at the same time retaining their full intelligence when alive, that was Feijiang.

He was an ancestor of “Zhen Ying”, one of the protector of their family lineage. He had continued polishing his martial art for hundreds of years and even obtained powerful power of Buddhism. He was so to speak like what Hinata would call as “Zenki”. Ch 423

BTW, willpower is Earth's energy.

Elemagia: An artifact as big as a baseball that converts electricity into magic power.


Element Arrangement Equal Conversion System: An artifact which allows him to convert element, the smallest material that became the base of any kind of energy, into energy.

What can we make out of this ?

 

[Digital_Franz]

Second key, after he became a hybrid.

He became a hybrid because he was able to absorb the powers of wolves.

 

[Digital_Franz]

What we know:

1) Conception is energy or particles, and it's the source of the soul and all those supernatural energies.

2) Conception comes from a higher world, and it can help characters raise their existence and resist Concept magic.

3) Soul is made from paticles and it's the source of the will because it fall under the domain of Soul Magic.


4) Willpower+ancient Magic=Concept Magic(CM type 1)

5) Soul is life force


Natural world energy=planet energy


Chinaman


BTW, willpower is Earth's energy.



What can we make out of this ?

Will look when I get the chance.

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

He became a hybrid because he was able to absorb the powers of wolves.

No, it happen after he mutated.

From what I understood, after he mutated his DNA could repair itself. Each time he eat monster stronger than him it damage his cells(mana crystals destroy the body), and after that his body repair itself adding the new genetic information of the monster he ate.

 

[Digital_Franz]

No, it happen after he mutated.

From what I understood, after he mutated his DNA could repair itself. Each time he eat monster stronger than him it damage his cells(mana crystals destroy the body), and after that his body repair itself adding the new genetic information of the monster he ate.

Never mind.As long as it's added it's fine.

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

Never mind.As long as it's added it's fine.

What do you think about the previous part ?

Will look when I get the chance.

 

[Digital_Franz]

What do you think about the previous part ?

Which part?

 

[Digital_Franz]

This

Will look when I get the chance.

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

Just making sure the Dragon is a universal threat.

 

[Digital_Franz]

Just making sure the Dragon is a universal threat.

This is what I've been waiting for. This is getting interesting.

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

This is what I've been waiting for. This is getting interesting.

What chapter are you reading ?

 

[Digital_Franz]

What chapter are you reading ?

347.

 

[Digital_Franz]

What we know:

1) Conception is energy or particles, and it's the source of the soul and all those supernatural energies.

2) Conception comes from a higher world, and it can help characters raise their existence and resist Concept magic.

3) Soul is made from paticles and it's the source of the will because it fall under the domain of Soul Magic.


4) Willpower+ancient Magic=Concept Magic(CM type 1)

5) Soul is life force


Natural world energy=planet energy


Chinaman


BTW, willpower is Earth's energy.



What can we make out of this ?

Maybe AE and Resistance to Conceptual Manipulation for design. For magic we can have Willpower Manipulation.

 

[Community_Gamer]

347.

I'm forever stuck on 359

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

Maybe AE and Resistance to Conceptual Manipulation for design. For magic we can have Willpower Manipulation.

Possible AE and conceptual empowerment for characters with conception.

Energy abdorption and matter manipulation(macro-quantum) for people with supernatural energy.

Matter Manipulation(macro-quantum) and life manipulation for soul magic, and requirement to have matter(macro-quantum) manipulation to manipulate their soul.

 

[Digital_Franz]

I'm forever stuck on 359

Me too.