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Animal Man Upgrade to Universal because universes aren't 9-B

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The possibility of upgrading Animal Man to Tier 1 has been discussed with regard to the description of (1) the Lifeweb, (2) scaling to Antagon (who may have pulled creation into the void), (3) creating a universe, as well as (4) mention of Bohm's theory of implicate order. However, it has been rejected due to the lack of direct evidence for how that information would justify a Tier 1 rating, as explained below

(1) The Lifeweb is both described as containing mirrors that reflect 'higher dimensions', and that it stretches to infinity, this has been theorized to indicate that there are an infinite amount of higher dimensions, but since neither the quality (what kind of dimension) nor quantity (how many dimensions) of those dimensions is expanded upon, it's unusable for a Tier 1 rating. The Lifeweb 'stretching to infinity' can refer to just a High 3-A scale, and alone isn't evidence of infinite higher dimensions, as it's perfectly plausible for an structure that stretches to infinity to contain a finite amount of higher dimensions.

It is unclear how powerful Antagon is, due to vagueness in the illustrations and language used to describe him. For this reason, scaling is not viable. Further, the full scale of the 'creation' that Antagon would hypothetically be pulling into the void. Within the story it appears that the terms 'creation' and 'universe' are being used interchangeably, which further obfuscates the true scale of the feat.

Creating a universe is a powerful feat, but is nowhere near Tier 1 without additional evidence explaining what that universe entails, which is not provided in the story.

Bohm's theory might suggest an effectively infinite, but not truly infinite, amount of geospatial dimensions, however, to use this for a Tier 1 rating would require considerably more specific in-story evidence applying it to DC, rather than just brief mention of Bohm in a single comic book, as it's vastly inconsistent with other descriptions of DC cosmology."

Source, our own goddamn profile

as you can see here, there's all evidence needed to upgrade him to at least High 3-A or low 2-C because he created a goddamn universe and WHY DOES IT JUST FOCUS THAT IT'S NOT TIER 1 for the actual love of god ? Who made this note ? What were they on ?

(also he probably would be variable from 9-B up to High 3-A/Low 2-C because of variable nature of his powers)
 
There is another thread currently dealing with the exact same thing. Although they are proposing some high tier 1 stuff. But ultimately it's about removing 9-B. Do you mind if I close this and you can participate in that one?
 
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