There is no proof that space-time existed before the Realms he created nor that people existed before + He could have created those Realms AFTER he fought Wojira, when he got older and stronger ( oh and btw, he created the Ninjago landmass AFTER Wojira's defeat) + U can't prove people and objects existed in those Realms + We visually saw them being created at the same time. No way people are trying to downgrade FSM
There's no proof that he created the space-time either, but given the scene from seabound, he most likely created the lands of those realms and not the entire thing. at best, him creating other realms is just a vague statement. did he create the entire space time? did he just create the landmass like with ninjago? the show doesnt tell us anything about the feat other than that he did it
There is not "most likely". Nothing in the show indicates us that the case of Ninjago applies to the other Realms + DR specifically says he created the entire Realm, and unless u can prove it wrong, he created the whole universes. Your argument fails badly here
No it doesn't and you cannot prove it. Please never cook again
Sure buddy. Also sorry, I was rushing and wrote the pronoun based on the pfp
It does not turn out to be like that. It is just that creation of Ninjago Realm and Ninjago continent are two distinct creations.
FSM can create life, so it doesn’t debunk anything. He could’ve simply created the Realm and life within it too, but due to lack of skill this could’ve gotten out of control, etc. He couldn’t defeat Wojira due to being young and unskilled. This is the only way for it to make sense. He was actually created in the FIRST Realm which is emphasized by Mistake, and he “abandoned this world and created the new one”, which implies that he created separate space-time continuums.
It was created by FSM, you are straight up denying the statements. You are reducing creation of the Realm and taking only the creation of landmass into the account, meanwhile I do take into the account both.
ok, and you’re still neutral to the original OP suggestion right?
And he could have created those other Realms later on because he def grew stronger after that fight
It won't retcon FSM's tier since we can just scale him via Overlord anyways, and it won't affect peak Garmadon's scaling which is the original topic of the CRT
It will perhaps. Hell, DR Season 2 can retcon even the Overlord.. Doc can just bring some race of species like the Overlord. So let's just wait and then finish this CRT.
“the child abandoned a world to start a new one”, do NOT twist the words
Why do you imply that it will retcon anything? Also, in the current Ninjago, I and LloydBlitzed still managed to prove 2-C Garmadon. Most of the people here either disagree or neutral with OP. This should be closed.
Exactly lol, it is already stated that FSM is 2-C in DR, so even if we assume anything was “retconned”, then the latest retcon leads us to 2-C, so Garmadon remains at 2-C
All good, that said I feel a headache coming on.. I think I will go hibernate now (it hurts so ******* bad)
Go get sum really good sleep, you should be fine by tomorrow. Wish you get better!
um the whole point of a "negative" is weird to say. I mean you can still provide empirical evidence this "negative" is no longer a negative which i assume you know.
can we vote to hold this thread off until DR S2? i agree with this. the rest of the thread i am neutral on idk the main argument and counter argument atm it feels like a bunch of circles lol
