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I did say I was gonna make a CRT about this a while back so here it is. So let's just get to the point.
Android 17 and Frieza should have their At least 3-A key removed. Currently the reason they even have this key is because they fought Jiren after he's gotten over his issues and because of Goku's statement of them going past their limits.
However Frieza and 17 being able to keep up with this Jiren alongside Post-UI Base Goku is an outlier. Literally right before this they were struggling to keep the barrier they put up against Jiren's energy wave. Frieza even used up his Golden form trying to maintain it. In the end it required Post-UI Base Goku to step in and erect another barrier to save them after their barrier shattered.
Now moving on to Goku's "We've all gone well beyond our limits already" statement. So first of all this is more likely referring to their stamina rather than power. Right after Goku's line about them going past their limits he told Frieza if they don't work together and fight, Universe 7 will be erased. Literally nothing in this scene implies they got stronger. It sounds more like Goku is telling Frieza they have all gone past their stamina limits and they won't last against Jiren unless they work together.
Tldr 17 and Frieza keeping up with Jiren after he has gotten past his issues is an outlier because they were shown to be much weaker than Post-UI Base Goku and this Jiren in their stronger forms a few seconds prior to this. So unless the two of them miraculously got stronger in a few seconds after the short talk they had with Goku they should be downgraded.
But hey look on the bright side is Frieza is probably going to become Low 2-C in the Broly movie.
Android 17 and Frieza should have their At least 3-A key removed. Currently the reason they even have this key is because they fought Jiren after he's gotten over his issues and because of Goku's statement of them going past their limits.
However Frieza and 17 being able to keep up with this Jiren alongside Post-UI Base Goku is an outlier. Literally right before this they were struggling to keep the barrier they put up against Jiren's energy wave. Frieza even used up his Golden form trying to maintain it. In the end it required Post-UI Base Goku to step in and erect another barrier to save them after their barrier shattered.
Now moving on to Goku's "We've all gone well beyond our limits already" statement. So first of all this is more likely referring to their stamina rather than power. Right after Goku's line about them going past their limits he told Frieza if they don't work together and fight, Universe 7 will be erased. Literally nothing in this scene implies they got stronger. It sounds more like Goku is telling Frieza they have all gone past their stamina limits and they won't last against Jiren unless they work together.
Tldr 17 and Frieza keeping up with Jiren after he has gotten past his issues is an outlier because they were shown to be much weaker than Post-UI Base Goku and this Jiren in their stronger forms a few seconds prior to this. So unless the two of them miraculously got stronger in a few seconds after the short talk they had with Goku they should be downgraded.
But hey look on the bright side is Frieza is probably going to become Low 2-C in the Broly movie.
