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We'll deal with the Bleach plagiarism after I revise the rest of the verse. That'll be in a thread along with missing abilities and what not.
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Analyzing Almighty
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Yhwach calling himself omnipotent has nothing to do with whether or not Almighty only works when he is staring at his opponent or not.
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I know, I and that wasn't the argument I was referring to. I simply meant, Yhwach actively needs to be paying attention to the battlefield. Nothing to do with eyes or "Starring", but his mind needs to be focused.
And actually, I legit have heard those terms used by users here and offsite. And that doesn't change the fact that "Omni-Precognition" is not a thing.
And actually, I legit have heard those terms used by users here and offsite. And that doesn't change the fact that "Omni-Precognition" is not a thing.
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he doesn't even call himself it was a mistranslation and no one uses it
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Yhwach doesn't need to focus to use precog. Also Omni-Precognition is just the name of the ability, we don't actually rank Precognition like that.
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This has already been debunked, he is seeing countless futures while The Almighty is active, if his focus is an argument he has the best focus I've ever seen. Assuming you can prove he needs to focus on something.Considering the Almighty future manipulation is literally instant.
Omni-Precognition is just a name, there isn't even a list for types of precognition on this website. I don't see the big deal. It's just an ability name.
Omni-Precognition is just a name, there isn't even a list for types of precognition on this website. I don't see the big deal. It's just an ability name.
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> Yhwach actively needs to be paying attention to the battlefield. Nothing to do with eyes or "Starring", but his mind needs to be focused.
False. A casual Yhwach was able to alter the future so Ichigo's Bankai would be rendered useless without any significant focus on him, and it happened instantaneously. In fact, this is one of the best showings of his Almighty.
False. A casual Yhwach was able to alter the future so Ichigo's Bankai would be rendered useless without any significant focus on him, and it happened instantaneously. In fact, this is one of the best showings of his Almighty.
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His attention was all focus on Ichigo for what I can see in that page. ƒÿÆ Here his focus was on Ichigo and didn't saw when Orihime's shield went up to defend Ichigo, because again he wasn't looking at the person, he proceeded to change the future to where the attack landed on him anyway because he was focus on Ichigo.Kepekley23 said:
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Roughly something like this, minus 2.PaChi2 said:
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So I will ask. Should we assume Yhwach always has Almighty active at the start of a battle? Battles are where this stuff pops up from.
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1) I agree.PaChi2 said:
2) That's not actually true since Ichigo kill Yhwach once and Aizen's arm didn't come back and he couldn't regenerate either.
3) Actually it doesn't. Orihime's powers does that and she couldn't undo anything Yhwach did until Tsukishima created another timeline where Yhwach didn't broke Ichigo's bankai.
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If you want proof of each of my claims:
1) If killed during his sleep, when he is not in possesion of the almighty, Yhwach would die.
2) He was killed because the almighty was deactivated.
3) Tsukishima
Also, I'd like to mention that Sleep Inducement is a huge weakness for Yhwach since he loses his Almighty. We could mention it.
1) If killed during his sleep, when he is not in possesion of the almighty, Yhwach would die.
2) He was killed because the almighty was deactivated.
3) Tsukishima
Also, I'd like to mention that Sleep Inducement is a huge weakness for Yhwach since he loses his Almighty. We could mention it.
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Well, about 2)
Yeah, I know its not "everything", but at least we know that if killed without the almighty he is not coming back. Which means that unless he is an idiot, he would have already wrote a future in which he won, but that never happened because... no Almighty.
Yeah, I know its not "everything", but at least we know that if killed without the almighty he is not coming back. Which means that unless he is an idiot, he would have already wrote a future in which he won, but that never happened because... no Almighty.
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"After Kurosaki Ichigo triumphed over Yhwach, that dead body was transported to the Soul King Palace by the hands of the Zero division. Hundreds of bindings were placed around the dead body which still contained a vast amount of spiritual power even after death, by storing it as the new lynchpin in the Soul King Greater Palace, the world was spared from collapse."
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If it's Soul King Yhwach being used, I think assuming the Almighty is active by default is acceptable. He only deactivated it in a single fight through all of Bleach.
Yhwach died because Uryuu's Antithesis countered his Almighty, not because he didn't have it activated. He clearly did.
Yhwach died because Uryuu's Antithesis countered his Almighty, not because he didn't have it activated. He clearly did.
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Even when sleeping he can see the future and he killed two traitors quincy before they touch him. The only time he show to turn it off was because he wanted to play with Ichigo.
Note that those were absolute fodder to him.
But we know he cant see the future asleep. Haschwalt is the one with The Almighty and he can show Yhwach pieces of the future if he wishes to.
How did he woke up and knew they will coming? He also mention that he was going to go to sleep again. And after that he switch with Jugram. Otherwise, Jugram would had have Almighty when he fought Bazz-B since Yhwach was already sleeping. Let me add that Yhwach also had the Almighty 200 years before even meeting Jugram. He didn't had an other half to switch letters.
Note that those were absolute fodder to him.
But we know he cant see the future asleep. Haschwalt is the one with The Almighty and he can show Yhwach pieces of the future if he wishes to.
How did he woke up and knew they will coming? He also mention that he was going to go to sleep again. And after that he switch with Jugram. Otherwise, Jugram would had have Almighty when he fought Bazz-B since Yhwach was already sleeping. Let me add that Yhwach also had the Almighty 200 years before even meeting Jugram. He didn't had an other half to switch letters.
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Orihime's Powers doesn't overwrite the past. It's basically time reversal and it's simply that hse cannot repair something in the present that was broken in the future or for better understanding. In the timeline of events, Ichigo's bankai was already broken.AppleLord said:
Tsukishima overwritten the past and did something, what he did is unknown but it did allow Ichigo's zanpakuto to resist the Almighty
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Well isn't that because Almighty wasn't active? Future modification comes from almighty, and we Ichigo sliced him in half while it was deactivated. So it makes sense that he could not revive himself.PaChi2 said:
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Yhwach could have always used The Almighty,hedidn't because it would have killed all of his quincy if he used it to early. The prophecy had to be fulfilled " The sealed King of the Quincy. Over 900 years, he shall recover his heartbeat. Over 90 years, he shall recover his intellect. Over nine years, he shall recover his power. And over nine days, he shall recover the world.".
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If we used Soul King-whatever Yhwach. Make sure the opponent can deal with "Passive Power Null" (which I still see as NLF but I digress) or don't use him in a fight.
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This should be added to the profile as a warning before creating vs battles with SK YwachDragonmasterxyz said:
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I just skimmed through this, but if you want to argue that Yhwach can't see things outside of his line of vision - like behind him -, the weakness should be added for only True Power and Mimihagi Absorbed Yhwach. After absorbing the Soul King, he gained eyes all over the black goop on him.
I don't know if Ishida's arrow is PIS, and I don't think it's connected to the Antithesis, but Yhwach does have eyes around him at that point, so it might indeed be PIS.
But I won't lie. I currently do think some of what Apple said makes sense, especially that part where Yhwach didn't see Inoue's shield moving to defend Ichigo, because he was focusing on him and not looking at her.
I don't know if Ishida's arrow is PIS, and I don't think it's connected to the Antithesis, but Yhwach does have eyes around him at that point, so it might indeed be PIS.
But I won't lie. I currently do think some of what Apple said makes sense, especially that part where Yhwach didn't see Inoue's shield moving to defend Ichigo, because he was focusing on him and not looking at her.
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No, type 9 immortality wouldn't work for Yhwach. Type 5 would work since in the Light Novel Yhwach is dead and alive at the same time.
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Uryu's Antithesis nullifying Yhwach's Almighty makes sense, though. It was already said to be able to do so earlier on, and Uryu was the one who fired the Plot Arrow.
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Y'know, I know it's not the real name of the attack, but I demand we dub said attack "Plot Arrow" and put it on Uryu's profile. ovo
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