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The Almighty regen negation

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Continuation of regen negation for The Almighty.
So, we know anything affected / altered by the almighty is unable to be undone by any conventional means, or even through potent hax such as causality manipulation.
As seen in these screenshots: https://gyazo.com/a5a75e9ddd6d22d436d675d686064007
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The only way they were able to undo any of the damage / effects caused by the almighty was by creating a past, where the almighty never affected the said item / person in the first place.
We also know this is done for every possible future that yhwach is capable of viewing (an infinite amount).

Now in the fight of Yhwach and Aizen, Yhwach bissected aizen, cut his arm off, with the almighty and put a hole through him.
Aizen's arm gets cut off: https://gyazo.com/e677115cf6808b949a373d77664772bc
Aizen gets a hole blown through his chest: https://gyazo.com/73a5cb1ea0252abcfd4396d714672229 & https://gyazo.com/0ad908964507fec3668c171a7a0d58e1

Throughout the entire fight, aizen never regenerated despite being shown to regenerate instantly in his previous battle with Ichigo, and when he got bissected by Gin.
After Yhwach was "Killed" we still see aizen's arm bleeding, and the hole in his chest: https://gyazo.com/76e81b5688dff766bd89cf9b54ef7517

Aizen gets a hole blown through him by Gin: https://gyazo.com/64d2c63c166548de286d33d034451484
Regenerates literally instantly: https://gyazo.com/64d2c63c166548de286d33d034451484, https://gyazo.com/4604d65c6b9f51955cefea7d873f53b9, https://gyazo.com/c433f9853b9318b9a9f8ebebe5236b4b, https://gyazo.com/cdabdee28d95ea04af02d10a3c5768cc

It's commonly known that aizen was locked in muken due to his immortality and them being incapable of killing him in any way outside of just sealing / locking him up.
I mentioned this since people keep arguing that aizen's regenerating isn't there anympore etc etc which is not true, as that's the reason why he's locked up for 20.000 years in the first place, instead of outright executing him.
https://gyazo.com/5faaa782357e5a4452ef269b0cca7cca, https://gyazo.com/3c51fcef400cb10ea6f70fb911e043e6
Even with things such as yamamoto's bankai being up their arsenal (Which has EE)

And here is another case of Aizen regenerating instantly in his battle with Mugetsu: https://gyazo.com/646b8eefeba0fcdcfb88b6a786e0fa33, https://gyazo.com/9c1a47ee96f6cffc867eeb16d899b716, https://gyazo.com/6f7fc48eaee87a7d2b57ab3c0cf7d690

This should be plenty of proof in order to support the statement of things that are affected by the almighty, are unable to be undone such as what happened with ichigo's bankai, and his wounds which were unable to be healed. Even with Orihime's power to reject events.
We see aizen regenerating instantly in every fight he's been in, while he's not shown to regenerate against Yhwach's powers.


Agree: @That_moron @Twisted_Little_Raven @Tyri456 @AppleLord @KingNanaya
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Hellscream said:
Continuation of regen negation for The Almighty.
So, we know anything affected / altered by the almighty is unable to be undone by any conventional means, or even through potent hax such as causality manipulation.
As seen in these screenshots: https://gyazo.com/a5a75e9ddd6d22d436d675d686064007
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The only way they were able to undo any of the damage / effects caused by the almighty was by creating a past, where the almighty never affected the said item / person in the first place.
We also know this is done for every possible future that yhwach is capable of viewing (an infinite amount).

Now in the fight of Yhwach and Aizen, Yhwach bissected aizen, cut his arm off, with the almighty and put a hole through him.
Aizen's arm gets cut off: https://gyazo.com/e677115cf6808b949a373d77664772bc
Aizen gets a hole blown through his chest: https://gyazo.com/73a5cb1ea0252abcfd4396d714672229 & https://gyazo.com/0ad908964507fec3668c171a7a0d58e1

Throughout the entire fight, aizen never regenerated despite being shown to regenerate instantly in his previous battle with Ichigo, and when he got bissected by Gin.
After Yhwach was "Killed" we still see aizen's arm bleeding, and the hole in his chest: https://gyazo.com/76e81b5688dff766bd89cf9b54ef7517

Aizen gets a hole blown through him by Gin: https://gyazo.com/64d2c63c166548de286d33d034451484
Regenerates literally instantly: https://gyazo.com/64d2c63c166548de286d33d034451484, https://gyazo.com/4604d65c6b9f51955cefea7d873f53b9, https://gyazo.com/c433f9853b9318b9a9f8ebebe5236b4b, https://gyazo.com/cdabdee28d95ea04af02d10a3c5768cc

It's commonly known that aizen was locked in muken due to his immortality and them being incapable of killing him in any way outside of just sealing / locking him up.
I mentioned this since people keep arguing that aizen's regenerating isn't there anympore etc etc which is not true, as that's the reason why he's locked up for 20.000 years in the first place, instead of outright executing him.
https://gyazo.com/5faaa782357e5a4452ef269b0cca7cca, https://gyazo.com/3c51fcef400cb10ea6f70fb911e043e6
Even with things such as yamamoto's bankai being up their arsenal (Which has EE)

And here is another case of Aizen regenerating instantly in his battle with Mugetsu: https://gyazo.com/646b8eefeba0fcdcfb88b6a786e0fa33, https://gyazo.com/9c1a47ee96f6cffc867eeb16d899b716, https://gyazo.com/6f7fc48eaee87a7d2b57ab3c0cf7d690

This should be plenty of proof in order to support the statement of things that are affected by the almighty, are unable to be undone such as what happened with ichigo's bankai, and his wounds which were unable to be healed. Even with Orihime's power to reject events.
We see aizen regenerating instantly in every fight he's been in, while he's not shown to regenerate against Yhwach's powers.


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You need to add that Base Yhwach didn’t want to fight Muken Aizen because the Hogyoku made him immortal.
 
Orihime being unable to restore Ichigo's Bankai is just causality manipulation negation for Yhwach, as is already listed on his profile, Orihime doesn't heal or regenerate things, she puts them back to the way they were by undoing whatever happened to them.

As for Aizen, he does regenerate, the hole in his chest is gone when we see him in Muken, so at best you can say Yhwach has limited regeneration negation for slowing it down, but to be honest, it's equally as possible that Muken Aizen's regeneration is slower without the Hogyoku, there's no proof that makes one interpretation more valid than the other.

Lastly, I don't know why you bring up Ichigo's injuries when Yhwach directly implies that Orihime could have healed them, Ichigo just decided not to either because he was in a hurry or because Orihime was near death herself.

So overall, I disagree with giving Yhwach full Mid-Godly regeration negation, this is at best just limited Mid-Godly regeneration negation by virtue of slowing it down, the same way Naruto has limited Low-Godly regeneration negation.
Limited Regeneration Negation (Up to Low-Godly; Kabuto stated that it would take time for Muu to regenerate from Naruto's attack due to the new power he acquired)
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She puts them back to the way they were, which i mentioned as her ability is to reject events that have taken place.
Don't really get your argument here.
Im not arguing for him to get regen negation for orihime being unable to heal / undo the events that took place.
Im saying the things that were done by the almighty are unable to be undone including Aizen's regeneration.

The screenshot you showed doesn't show the hole in his chest being gone, it shows cloth covering his chest and his arm isn't even on panel.
I provided you proof of aizen instantly regenerating in his fight with gin and ichigo,
Even the case where he simply slashed aizen, he literally regenerated instantly.
And no, Aizen literally stated that it doesn't matter whether hogyoku is inside or with him at all, even if it's seperated.
He explained this when Gin took the hogyoku away from him and blew that hole through his body in hope of him not regenerating, which he instantly did.
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The fact that she was unable to heal ichigo or "undo" any of the effects of the almighty simply supports the statement of anything being damaged by the almighty being unable to be undone. in this case Aizen's arm, and chest which was not shown to heal despite him regenerating instantly on multiple occasions before.
 
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He was not shown to regen in his fight with yhwach despite him always regenerating instantly.
I don't know where this "his regen slowed down" statement comes from when there's nothing to support it.
The only thing you could logically claim is that the regen negating effects from the almighty disappeared when his powers got disabled with the still silver arrow.
Which in that case it would be limited with the activation of the almighty.
I can agree with that.
 
I only said limited for ichigo thing he posted. Be weird if Yhwach didnt know how his powers work no?. But as you said Aizen isn't healing, and he has instant regen. And only reason Yhwach or SS didnt mess with him was because his immortality so he has it.
 
I disagree with listing it as it’s OWN UNIQUE THING because the mechanic isn’t actually Regen Negation like it is for say, Kratos—It’s simply the inability to change what the Almighty has set in stone. The CONSEQUENCE of such nullified Aizen’s regeneration, sure, but calling it Regen Negation is like me saying John Wick has Infinite Money because of his Golden Coins, when in reality the coins are merely favors quantified and thus can simulate any value and change based on who is using them, as well.

The CONSEQUENCE is that John effectively has limitless money, via the mechanic of these favors, but all it actually is would be a justification of the larger ability of Social Influencing. (If that example makes sense.)

It’d make more sense to me to list it alongside his Causality Manipulation Negation, so “Causality Manipulation Negation, Regeneration Negation,” with THIS and Orihime’s own Causality Manip being unable to heal it as a justification for how powerful it is. That’s just my two cents, though.

I’ll let others more experienced in Bleach debate if the ability itself is accurate.
 
Purgy said:
Orihime being unable to restore Ichigo's Bankai is just causality manipulation negation for Yhwach, as is already listed on his profile, Orihime doesn't heal or regenerate things, she puts them back to the way they were by undoing whatever happened to them.
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I agree with this. Yhwach's ability is just a hard counter to Orihime's, he can't simply negate all forms of regeneration and we have no reason to believe he can.

Count me as a disagree.
 
Deagonx said:
I agree with this. Yhwach's ability is just a hard counter to Orihime's, he can't simply negate all forms of regeneration and we have no reason to believe he can.

Count me as a disagree.
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No clue what you're talking about tbh
Nobody mentioned him getting regen negation from orihime
 
Purgy said:
Orihime being unable to restore Ichigo's Bankai is just causality manipulation negation for Yhwach, as is already listed on his profile, Orihime doesn't heal or regenerate things, she puts them back to the way they were by undoing whatever happened to them.

As for Aizen, he does regenerate, the hole in his chest is gone when we see him in Muken, so at best you can say Yhwach has limited regeneration negation for slowing it down, but to be honest, it's equally as possible that Muken Aizen's regeneration is slower without the Hogyoku, there's no proof that makes one interpretation more valid than the other.

Lastly, I don't know why you bring up Ichigo's injuries when Yhwach directly implies that Orihime could have healed them, Ichigo just decided not to either because he was in a hurry or because Orihime was near death herself.

So overall, I disagree with giving Yhwach full Mid-Godly regeration negation, this is at best just limited Mid-Godly regeneration negation by virtue of slowing it down, the same way Naruto has limited Low-Godly regeneration negation.
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I disagree for the same reasons above.
 
Make up a proper counter argument with what i posted and actually read what's being proposed or keep your "disagree FRA" when there's not even a counter argument to yourself.
The previous thread was a single screenshot, i posted pretty much all proof you need that supports my claim.
 
Oh, hold up. This is the same thread I argued against, and you're still using the same arguments. We've already discussed that Aizen didn't have enough on-screen display of his back-regeneration in that fight.

In fact, we have no proof that Aizen was incapable of regenerating. I'm against the idea of giving regeneration negation (even in limited form) since nothing indicates that Aizen couldn't regenerate because of the almighty. No statement or feat has shown otherwise (let alone implication).
 
ImmortalDread said:
Oh, hold up. This is the same thread I argued against, and you're still using the same arguments. We've already discussed that Aizen didn't have enough on-screen display of his back-regeneration in that fight.

In fact, we have no proof that Aizen was incapable of regenerating. I'm against the idea of giving regeneration negation (even in limited form) since nothing indicates that Aizen couldn't regenerate because of the almighty. No statement or feat has shown otherwise.
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Precisely this.

I don't see why I need to type up a whole counter-argument when this is the same topic as last time.
 
Fam.
The previous thread was literally a single screenshot in his fight with yhwach.
I posted every fight of aizen, and every scenario of his regeneration taking place instantly during his fights.
He didn't regenerate during his fight with Yhwach, simple.
 
I don't think you're aware if you're saying this shit after seeing the screenshots, and actually reading the thread.
If you did then you'd know that aizen instantly regenerated in all of his fights and didn't do so with Yhwach.
-Aizen regenerates instantly in all of his fights
-Anything affected by the almighty is stated to be unable to be undone
-Aizen gets bissected by The Almighty
-Aizen doesn't regen, after being affected by The Almighty

"yeah but he didn't get enough screentime!"

Yeah he did, i provided every scenario of him regenerating literally a single panel later.
While he didn't regen at all, and was simply bleeding in his fight with Yhwach.

Now come up with an actual proper counter argument.
 
Hellscream said:
Fam.
The previous thread was literally a single screenshot in his fight with yhwach.
I posted every fight of aizen, and every scenario of his regeneration taking place instantly during his fights.
He didn't regenerate during his fight with Yhwach, simple.
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If you only show those scans where Yhwach in muken says Aizen still has the Hogyoku in him which grants him instant regeneration which is not instant in his battle with Yhwach. 🤔
 
Who let the hellscream cook 🗿🗿🗿

We consider anime to be primary canon . Yhwach does states he can neg Aizen Regeneration. I agree with Regeneration negation for mid godly but OP explanation is pretty bad.
 
With the first invasion when Yhwach met Aizen, he just said that it would take too long for him to kill Aizen since he didn't have much more time left, before they had to go back to the wandenreich.

I assume he's talking about this.
 
AppleLord said:
If you only show those scans where Yhwach in muken says Aizen still has the Hogyoku in him which grants him instant regeneration which is not instant in his battle with Yhwach. 🤔
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AppleLord said:
We even have a panel of characters saying Aizen’s regeneration is “Instant Regeneration” bruh
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If apple lord explanation is hard to understand Someone ping Arc for better explanation
ImmortalDread said:
Mind showing us the statement?
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Deagonx said:
That would be much better evidence than anything the OP provided, if you have a scan.
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