Akame ga Kill! upgrades

[A6colute]

I have to estimate here, though.

http://********.me/manga/akame_ga_kill/v12/c056/5.html

http://********.me/manga/akame_ga_kill/v12/c056/6.html

Distance for lasers = hundreds of meters

Distance for Akame = meters, tens of meters in the best case

So, lasers speed tens of times faster.

It's MBH.

 

[ImagoDesattrolante]

You haven't proved why it was incorrect.
Well... use a logic, Luke.

It's a common low end by two characters.

Low end is bullshit in this case. Low end may be for attacks speed. But not for reaction speed. If you are able to react to 10+ mach attack - you always can do it.

Look at it this way: Someone, say, Naruto has trouble doing a supersonic feat - yet has loads of other, hypersonic feats. Doesn't mean the calc is bullshit - it's a low end, an outlier - a reverse outlier, basically.

 

[ImagoDesattrolante]

I have to estimate here, though.
http://********.me/manga/akame_ga_kill/v12/c056/5.html

http://********.me/manga/akame_ga_kill/v12/c056/6.html

Distance for lasers = hundreds of meters

Distance for Akame = meters, tens of meters in the best case

So, lasers speed tens of times faster.

It's MBH.

It definitely looks impressive, yes.

 

[A6colute]

it's a low end

Low end for attacks speed? Okay, but only in special cases.

Low end for reaction speed? Nonsense.

 

[LordAizenSama]

You haven't proved why it was incorrect.Well... use a logic, Luke.
It's a common low end by two characters.

Low end is bullshit in this case. Low end may be for attacks speed. But not for reaction speed. If you are able to react to 10+ mach attack - you always can do it.

it should of never been added in the first place and claimed it as MHS though. it should of been calc'd/looked at first, in either case it would need to be removed from their profiles.

 

[ImagoDesattrolante]

it's a low end
Low end for attacks speed? Okay, but only in special cases.

Low end for reaction speed? Nonsense.

By attack speed, are you referring to punches/slices? I don't think that's different than reaction.

 

[A6colute]

By attack speed, are you referring to punches/slices?

Yes.

I don't think that's different than reaction.

It's completely different.

Reaction not depends on physical conditions.

 

[A6colute]

it should of been calc'd/looked at first, in either case it would need to be removed from their profiles.

Well, I don't see problems with MBH reactions according dodging lasers.

 

[ImagoDesattrolante]

By attack speed, are you referring to punches/slices?
Yes.

I don't think that's different than reaction.

It's completely different.

Reaction not depends on physical conditions.

Hm? If you can react at that speed, you can fight at that speed.

 

[A6colute]

If you can react at that speed, you can fight at that speed.

No. If you movements too slow, your reaction is useless.

 

[ImagoDesattrolante]

If you can react at that speed, you can fight at that speed.
No. If you movements too slow, your reaction is useless.

Yeaaah, but reaction speeds are basically fighting speeds - no? They control arm movement and stuff.

 

[A6colute]

Yeaaah, but reaction speeds are basically fighting speeds - no?

No. Reaction speed only part of overall combat speed.

They control arm movement and stuff.

Arm movements speed has limit. And this limit <<<<<< reaction speed limit.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Well, if you want to react to something, you must be able to do something to proves that you reacted to it, such as dodging or attacking back, so I don't see why it wouldn't be attack speed.

 

[LordAizenSama]

it should of been calc'd/looked at first, in either case it would need to be removed from their profiles.
Well, I don't see problems with MBH reactions according dodging lasers.

you can't just decide a "laser" is MHS, a laser can be lightspeed. again it would have to be looked at and again the current reactions would need removing..

 

[A6colute]

Yeaaah, but reaction speeds are basically fighting speeds - no? They control arm movement and stuff.

Summary:

Reaction speed must be at least = combat speed (except special cases).

But it's only for reaction speed. Combat speed may be less than reaction speed.

 

[ImagoDesattrolante]

Yeah, so it's a low end for both either way.

 

[A6colute]

you can't just decide a "laser" is MHS, a laser can be lightspeed.

Those lasers at least tens of times faster than Akame. Akame movements speed at least 10+ mach. So, those lasers speed at least 100+ mach.

Well, your reactions control that type of movement, right?

Yes. But it's not a limit for your reaction.

 

[A6colute]

Yeah, so it's a low end for both either way.

Low end for lightning? May be. However this calc don't seems legit.

Low end for reaction? No. You reaction may be low only when you take off your guard. But it's not that case.

 

[ImagoDesattrolante]

Yeah, so it's a low end for both either way.Low end for lightning? May be. However this calc don't seems legit.
Low end for reaction? No. You reaction may be low only when you take off your guard. But it's not that case.

Why didn't it seem legit? It's a just a low end - of course it ain't making sense, just like Krillin's blasts not taking down trees of something. Or Guts having trouble doing some wall level feat.

 

[A6colute]

Why didn't it seem legit?

You don't have correct timing.

You don't have correct distance.

 

[ImagoDesattrolante]

Why didn't it seem legit?
You don't have correct timing.

You don't have correct distance.

We don't know the correct timing, thus we must estimate.

Why so, again?

 

[A6colute]

We don't know the correct timing

Therefore this calc means nothing.

Better make calc with lasers dodging feat.

Akame started moving right after lasers attack activation.

We know distance for lasers.

We can calc Akame's distance.

So...

 

[LordAizenSama]

Why didn't it seem legit?
You don't have correct timing.

You don't have correct distance.

could you perhaps give us your version of it then?

 

[ImagoDesattrolante]

We don't know the correct timing
Therefore this calc means nothing.

So every calc that estimated timing is immediately wrong?

 

[A6colute]

could you perhaps give us your version of it then?

http://********.me/manga/akame_ga_kill/v12/c056/5.html

http://********.me/manga/akame_ga_kill/v12/c056/6.html

Distance for lasers = hundreds of meters

Distance for Akame = meters, tens of meters in the best case

So, lasers speed tens of times faster.

It's MBH.

100+ much - an absolute minimum for this feat.

 

[LordAizenSama]

Kinda looks like hes just blasting indiscriminately.. not particularly aiming at akame..

and again you would need that calc'd first anyway, (if it's even viable) and have the current stats removed still.

 

[A6colute]

So every calc that estimated timing is immediately wrong?

If this calc has logical contradictions.

 

[ImagoDesattrolante]

So every calc that estimated timing is immediately wrong?
If this calc has logical contradictions.

I don't see any real logical contradiction to it. It was just a low end.

 

[A6colute]

It was just a low end.

Again - low end for reaction speed may be only if characters very tired or take off their guard. But it's not this case.

 

[ImagoDesattrolante]

It was just a low end.
Again - low end for reaction speed may be only if characters very tired or take off their guard. But it's not this case.

No. It's basically the opposite of an outlier, I am saying. They don't have to be tired or weak.

 

[A6colute]

Okay. It's my opinion, that this calc is nonsense. If you make another calc with lasers dodging feat - it will be better than continue this pointless discussion.

 

[LordAizenSama]

Yep, so the current MHS stats will be removed until proven..

 

[ImagoDesattrolante]

Indeed. Thanks for being reasonable, A6.