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Ainz and the Great Tomb of Nazarick are trying to conquer your favorite verse, how does this goes ?

I don't think Reigen or Mob can convince them of anything. Reigen is slick and has charm but Ainz has his charm too and his servants all either hate human or can't be swayed. I say charm but it's more like his ability to turn things in his favour that has pretty much become a meme now...

If Meruem and his guards attacked Nazarick they wouldn't get past Shalltear alone. [Time Accelerator] which slows down time, [any negative energy or death spell/skills] and they all die, even Pitou, in case she finds Pitou hard she then can use [Imposion] to blow up from the inside. If she feels threatened she can always just slip into the astral dimension. If she takes a strong attack she can use [Time Reverse] to reverse the damage like it never happened. With her natural vampire Regenerationn things sort of head to despair territory because the more they bleed, the stronger she gets, she can at any point attack herself with negative energy to heal, also her weapon, if she hits you with it she heals...
 
Not nearly that level, he's actually one of the top members of the game of yggdrasil, has a massive mana pool, and knew 750 spells despite the average spell cap being three hundred. He is a bullshitter but alot of the time he doesn't have to even bull shit pure luck often gives him a massive advatage. Beyond that his servants all view him as an incredible god, if he ordered them to die they would all commit sucide with smiles.
 
I guess they have shitty mentality and are intelligent only when they get to fight. There's no way Ainz can discuss with someone who has actual charisma and is wise.
 
....Ehhh hes actually intellegent and charismatic and this is futher boosted by the inability to read his voice/face. His supernatural luck is also a large boon he went to visit the empire to draw adventureres to him and just happened to catch the emperor in the midst of forming a plot to turn the countries of the world against him. In advertantly crippling the effort and forcing the empire to permanantly bow a knee as no other country can trust the empire.

Theres also the fact most in the view humans as lower lifeforms even ainz himself views them as small animals struggling against the harships of life.
 
Yeah the golden princess and the bloody emperor were both considered very intelligent. Didn't mean anything because in their view ainz is a literal god. Demiurge made a plan to subjugate the empire over the course of a year, ainz did it in three days with zero casualties. he could claim to be the biggest idiot in the world and all his servants would kneel down to kiss his feet. They saw ainz and his freinds create them and their comrades, breath life into them. They saw them turn the tomb from stone into a series of realms through means they can't understand
 
I meant non-battle discussion. A debate on life, sheer motives or something. You know, when they aren't trying to kill/conquer something. If they can actually talk with likes of Reigen or other guys.
 
Yeah and the golden princess has talked at length with demuirge and albedo the greatest minds of nazerick, not just about conquering but about interest, love her life...Hasn't effect them at all...Ainz is their literal god, not just a god but the king of gods who united there individual gods under him... My point? Charisma from a lower life form isn't gonna effect them...
 
They could talk but demuige is going to try and send them to a farm to be tortured and skinned alive if he can't find a way for them to be more useful to his master, while albedo is going to fight off the urge to simply slaughter the lower life forms.

Sebas fell in love with a human, he is the highest karma npc, the kindest, the one that doesn't view everything outside of nazerick as pathetic. When ainz told him to kill his love he didn't hesitate, and even his breif pause at ainz orders was alsmost enough to have all the other gaurdians turn on him and kill him.

Even solutiion who is pathetically weak compared to him raised her blade to fight him because she started to doubt his loyalty. Because he save a girl that had been raped and beaten... There was no other reason she just didn't trust him doing a kind deed....

edit my point? Charisma isn't gonna win this one.
 
Most wont listen to pathetic lower life forms the few that would listen won't turn against ainz because they won't turn against their god. Ainz once asked them what they would do if they were captured and used against him, they all said they would instatly do everything within their power to end there own lives rather then be an inconveince to him. this just isn't a situation you can talk them out of...They exist to serve ainz and the supreme beings, the idea of failing in that or not being enough drives them mad. THeir greatest fear is one day ainz may leave them like the other supreme being. Another kind subject of ainz was willing to beat her sister and torture to extract infromation that very, very mildly inconveinced ainz....
 
So he can only talk with Ainz. Good to know. Well you can't discuss with pure evil that has only destruction on their mind.
 
Maybe ainz has no sympathy for humans beyond seeing them as small struggling animals, he even refrences the women sebas loves as a pet. what would he convince ainz of? Ainz loyalty is for the tomb and his npcs. He would do anything to ensure its prosperity, Even to ainz if it doesn't benfit him or nazerick he won't care, saying that you stand better chance of convincing him to do something then you do convinicing the gaurdians to do something that would upset ainz...

edit Ainz is either irrational or overly rational from our presepctive he views everything in terms of merits and demerits, if something has a demerit to nazerick hes liable to destroy it. He also doesn't really offer forgivness if you don't accept his terms of surrender he's liable to kill you and genocide your home till they are to weak to resist.
 
Reigen actually provoked a guy like Mogami who's genius and mastermind, same as Toichiro who's very similar to Ainz. If Ainz has any human mind left he can have a discussion. If Ainz will go for the kill during that then... well, shit
 
all of this ignore demuirge and albedo who filter quite a bit of info giving him what they deem actually worthy of his attention. all the while they manipulate things in the background to get others in the outside world to bend their knees.
 
Oh if he provokes ainz he's kinda ******, ainz will go for the kill. ainz just won't care if he can't offer benefits to nazerick, he can't convince ainz not to conquer the world because that's what ainz servants expect of him, this isn't something he will change him mind on. ainz is also unlikely to ever directly contact him as albedo and demiurge would deem him below ainz notice and deal with him themselves.

he also can't really convince ainz he's on the wrong side of this, ainz karma is negative five hundred, he's not controlled by this but it has left him as an almost true nuetral for ainz to do something their has to be a benfit.... He's aware he's sorta the bad guy he just doesn't care because it benefits nazerick...He can have a disscussion....What effect you expect this to have on a being with magically crippled empathy that only cares about his tomb and npcs is beyond me... Im pretty sure at best ainz gets annoyed and grasp hearts...

Provoking ainz is possible but any emotion he experiences will be suppressed as they form...
 
Pen, Ainz's build actually wasn't very good in Yggdrasil. He went for a roleplay build, so he focused on death magic and necromancy rather than more practical abilities. However, he was very skilled at strategy, so he was still in the upper half of the mid tier of players. His build is much more useful in the New World due to the changes to how necromancy and summoning work, and the fact that almost no New Worlders resist his hax.
 
yes and? he still had one of the highest mana reserves and knew more spells then most other players. His build was subpar but claiming he wasn't impressive isn't accurate, his versatility and strategy helped make up for his builds weakness. Heck him roleplaying gave him a very powerful hax (Said hax did get stronger in new world to be fair)

edit I was only refering to how the npcs view ainz to them he is sorta the king of gods that united their individual gods under him. Thats just the preception they have since he's the guild master.
 
Ainz certainly had tons of versatility, but he lacked in raw power. It's said that his strategy in PvP required him to purposefully lose the first round in order to ascertain his enemy's abilities. An effective build wouldn't require that. There's nothing wrong with choosing an RP build, it's just that Ainz went with style over power.
 
One thing to keep in mind is that Ainz has abnormally high levels of high class equipment. Without those, he would be generally way weaker with or without strategies.

That said, if I remember right, I thought it was more that ehe had way higher chances of losing first round if he didn't know about his opponent, but he was very gifted in analyzing abilities and coming up with countermeasures, which synergized well with his large range of options and vast amounts of items.
 
I think he also explained he would take the first round to learn as much as he could, then exploit and use what he learned to battle appropriately in the next
 
Ainz with the Staff is a monster

Dude can summon 7 7-B monsters, and bypass immunities/resistances

too bad he never uses it
 
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