Ainz and the Great Tomb of Nazarick are trying to conquer your favorite verse, how does this goes ?

[WHYNAUT]

So you're telling me Ainz stands a chance against verses with 2-As and 1-As, but gets destroyed by a Touhou character?

 

[TIHYDDWBE]

My Fave verse Neg diffs.

 

[SpookyShadow]

Wow, old thread

Mob Psycho 100 - ???% Mob GG's them

Bleach - Aizen trolls, Yhwach teaches them what power should look like

Black Clover - Julius with speed unequalized solos. Asta should one shot and erase all of their magic too in his Black Asta form.

Fullmetal Alchemist - Truth does his job and God Father kinda destroys them all

Akame ga Kill! - Can they beat Shikoutazer?

 

[Makkurona]

Fate: would be interesting to see Servants vs Nazarick guardians. But top tiers stomp hard

Tsukihime: DAAs counter Nazarick hard

Angel NOTES: nope

Touhou Project: FANTASY SEAL

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

How does mob counter death manip

 

[SpookyShadow]

???% is pure energy that shouldn't really be alive so I don't know if Death Manipulation would work...

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

It doesn't resist and ainz has tgoalid...Being not alive isn't anywhere near insurmountable, ainz also has wish upon a star and his world class item gives him a litany of resistance, he cans self ressurect himself once and his npcs can revive as many times as he has gold. Considering the nazerick was one of the top guild...They had a lot of gold for resurrection...All of that ignores that his guardians have mentioned a ritual that would allow them to revive ainz if he fell in battle.

So for the moment I see ainz death haxing/reality his way to victory seeing as he's in nazerick and he's going to bust out the stops.

 

[SpookyShadow]

It has limited range? Becaue Mob can **** them from kilometres or send to space.

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

Akame quite easily death manip, ressurection and timestop tells it no....

 

[SpookyShadow]

Can they kill someone who's in mountain sized battle armor with High 6-B dura?

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

Sending to space has ainz teleport back, doesn't have infinite range though he can reach ten's of kilometers to hundreds depending on the death spells. Add onto that teleportation/gate and nazerick has the range advantage.....

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

Yes because it's alive and doesn't resist death manip.... Dura means nothing

 

[SpookyShadow]

Oh yeah, speed is unequalized so Mob blitzes them all to oblivion.

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

Fair it would be a blitz but equal and ainz stomps..

 

[SpookyShadow]

Wait, can he even get close to Mob during earthquakes, tornadoes and storms?

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

GAte, teleportation, tens to hundreds of kilometers of range, remote viewing....so yes quite easily, none of those things seem liable to damage ainz

 

[SpookyShadow]

Well still doesn't matter, with speed unequal Mob blitzes them all

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

Yep but ainz stomps speed equal Akame ga kill gets stomped as well speed equal,

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Chrono (Verse): https://youtu.be/Dfb_n7wjb5k

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

^Accurate

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

Ainz beats out father as well from what I can tell, he doesn't resist death manip and unless he goes straight for matter manip against ainz he dies rather swiftly...

 

[SpookyShadow]

I don't think they even stands a chance against God Father. He is a reality warper.

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

Yeah ainz resist reality warping on a plantary scale, has his own reality warping and father doesn't resist death manip....So....Yeah...He has to kill ainz twice before ainz gets a chance to use one of his death spells/timestop

 

[The_Coolest_Water_Bottle]

Ainz Ooal Gown vs Bill Cipher. Both are bloodlusted, speed equal. Low 2-C Bill.

 

[SpookyShadow]

Father is AT LEAST planetary level. And yeah, he can still blitz them.

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

Blitz yeah speed uneqaul. and atleast tells me he doesn't have any feats that would allow him to bypass ainz defense. bill gets a pass because he was pulling realities together and some other nonsense that Im pretty sure puts him beyond plantary potencey

 

[SpookyShadow]

Does Death magic of Ainz work on opponents hilariously more powerful than him? He may start with shit like Grasp Heart, Father ofc regenerates and could **** him with Low 5-B potency?

 

[InfiniteSped]

Ergenverse: Might beat the super weak sects and clans, but there are too many people that could destroy Nazarick alone.

Medaka Box: Will prob not know about the Abnormals, doubt he'd looking for threats at high-schools, so he's kinda screwed.

Percy Jackson: Can't beat the gods

Narnia: Aslan nukes him at some point.

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

Yup, most opponents stronger then ainz in his own verse would have magic items/skills to resist death manip, without those you could be level one billion and still drop to death magic. It was like timestop resistance you needed to have items or skills to resist. Raw power/stats don't offer resistance

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

Actually grasp heart is has it's own individual insta death effect independent of crushing the opponents heart. It crushes your heart but it also induces instant death magically.

 

[SpookyShadow]

So crushing heart works on Low-High regen? Interesting

 

[The_Coolest_Water_Bottle]

@The pen or the sword

Ainz Ooal Gown vs Iihiko Shishime.

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

ITs not just crushing the heart it has a magical instant death effect that works independintly of crushing the opponents heart...

 

[SpookyShadow]

Can you give me scan or something?

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

I've asked the general discussion to help me find the scans (Its been forever since we disscussed this) though we do have it listed on his profile:

Grasp Heart: A 9th-tier spell that allows Ainz to remotely grab the heart (or whatever equivalent organ) of an enemy, and crush it, killing them instantly. This even works on dragons and other giant enemies. Despite this, the spell actually achieves its purpose by causing death magically.

 

[The_Coolest_Water_Bottle]

@The pen or the sword
Ainz Ooal Gown vs Iihiko Shishime.

^^ What do you think? @The Pen.

 

[InfiniteSped]

Ainz can't really do anything there.

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

I belive we currently interpret grasp heart as having an instant death effect along with the crushed heart due to four reasons,

One the way people drop dead after the spell is in no way indictive of a crushed heart, they simply drop

Two Ainz has another spell known as crack the ground witch creates a massive fissure but also induces instant death regardless of your crushed or harmed by the spell.

Three "This spell was one that crushed a foe's heart, and among the ten tiers of spells, it was an instant death spell of the Ninth Tier. Many of the necromantic spells which Momonga was adept with possessed instant death properties, and this was one of them." This scan states grasp heart like crack the ground has instant death properties rather then simply crushing the heart.

Edit fourth

Thus augmented, those instant-death effects could bypass any immunities or resistance and kill their targets after a certain amount of time had passed.

Ainz doesn't exclude any spells from his explanation, so that means all Instant Death spells would kill their target, or in this case, Shalltear.

Considering Shalltear doesn't need a heart to survive, hell it's described as "unbeating" in the same volume iirc, due to being undead, this means the only thing that would kill her if GH was used would be a instant death effect.

Edit fifth Death: 8th tier spell that instantly kills the target without any activation time or requirements. It is similar to grasp heart,

Now Im pretty sure we have a few other statements but Im waiting on answeres in the discussion thread. beyond all that ainz is also just as likly to use his [death] Which he has used just as much as [grasp heart] as his opening move

 

[The_Coolest_Water_Bottle]

Ainz can't really do anything there.

You talk about Ainz vs Iihiko?

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

Yeah it seems like that guys defense won't recognize ainz in any capacity and thus he won't actually be able to harm him