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The answer is dull and disappointingHow did the marioverse even get downgraded in the first place honestly.
I mean nobody’s trying to debunk Future Dream being a universe right now. It is lol, it’s supported just fine in the og text and the supporting Eng text. What some people are debating is if Future Dream’s size can be scaled to other dreams, which I don’t think it can’t.I've literally already explained that if you use ALL statements for Future Dream and not just the one, you get the fact it's dreams of the universe anyways (pretty consistently too). You can try and say it's a vague "outer space" with Uchuu but when we have the English text backing the universe interpretation I think we're fine there.
Also, unending dreams still means that a single person has to dream up an infinite sized one.
this thread is literally trying to prove that there’s an infinite amount of potential dreamers, which would thus back the idea of future dream only being scalable to its size because it’s a collective…You can't have a finite amount of things make up an infinite space. It just requires an infinite amount at that point.
The descriptions of the size are as already starting as endless so it would count as lore independent from that endless mechanic; especially the TV dialogue on the purple box explaining the new location. The location is an endless ScareScaper that they climb so again it's not due to the Luigis adversity.There is nothing in the blog like that. The closest is the Nintendo of America preview where they're just talking about the settings for it where they mention the endless mode (not a lore statement in an interview, just a game mechanic).
unless you think the country is infinitely large
Where is this statement you're talking about? Since I can't find it in the blog.The descriptions of the size are as already starting as endless so it would count as lore independent from that endless mechanic; especially the TV dialogue on the purple box explaining the new location. The location is an endless ScareScaper that they climb so again it's not due to the Luigis adversity.
The Sabuko context is Sabuko (Subcon) is called a dream world in its own right, the land is just part of it, extending to the stars and such held on that world that we see in the night levels which are further confirmed as stars in the official guide for smb2.
I think you are under the impression the Subcon inhabitants are being referenced there as the people seeing dreams; rather than the picture showing him hopping between dreams with the outside being dream bubbles of real world people sleeping below. So I'm not really sure what the actual duck.
Actually ****, listening again I think I was wrong. I relied on when the translations included the "n" or didn't, but that seems inaccurate. It seems machine translated, and looking at the context of what's actually said, I don't think there is a distinction. There are as many of those realms as there are people who dream.Ah ok that's something I wouldn't know about I just read subs man.
The translation I got doesn't specify that; so news to me
we got 7 staff approval and 1 disagreementSo... what's happening here? Don't want this to die
Don't ignore that the 7 are split 4-3 over whether it should be solid, or just a "possibly/likely". That distinction still needs to be worked out.we got 7 staff approval and 1 disagreement
shouldn't this be over by now
Erm offtopic (did u vote)Super Mario Wonder's gonna do [PUN REDACTED]
Yeah I agreed early on. Was counted.Erm offtopic (did u vote)
With regard to that 4-3, flat vs 'likely/possibly' split that's seeming to hold up progress within the thread, what else should be discussed that may not have been already? For example, was there something in particular within the original blog that is in need of discussion besides what has already been discussed? Something that could use more explanation, or be expanded upon within that blog that may get the ball rolling again?Don't ignore that the 7 are split 4-3 over whether it should be solid, or just a "possibly/likely". That distinction still needs to be worked out.
I have actually a scan or two I'd like to share if you guys don't mind waiting a day for translation. It's from the Japanese version of lm2. (Which btw the hd version will have ScareScaper )Something that could use more explanation, or be expanded upon within that blog that may get the ball rolling again?
Sure, I wouldn't mind! Things have slowed down, so I think a day would be fine.I have actually a scan or two I'd like to share if you guys don't mind waiting a day for translation. It's from the Japanese version of lm2. (Which btw the hd version will have ScareScaper )
That's definitely alright but I feel like unless it's contextualizing the endless mode idk if it will mean much.I have actually a scan or two I'd like to share if you guys don't mind waiting a day for translation. It's from the Japanese version of lm2. (Which btw the hd version will have ScareScaper )
Were you able to get the translation?I have actually a scan or two I'd like to share if you guys don't mind waiting a day for translation. It's from the Japanese version of lm2. (Which btw the hd version will have ScareScaper )
Absolutely not lolIdk who is making the downgrade thread, whoever you are, please just do it here before this thread conclude as it will save time. Meph bought ya some extra time. Appreciated.
So the main reason you're suggesting this is because if I didn't do it this way, people would agree with me? Hmmmm yes very sound logic I must concede, well played.Well it will save more time? And not only that you'll build a stronger arguments of a non 2-A cosmology It'll be a lot easier for a separate downgrade thread to get FRA'd without second thought. Especially a mario downgrade thread since its normal practice here. Those are my few cents.
Or they are waiting for mephs translation. just suggesting whatever counterargument is against tier 2-A. Thats what I look forward to, to be said here. Regardless whether you drop your crt itll probably get fra’d cause oh no cosmic mario is no good apparently. My last cent since its derailing now.CRT that most staff have already moved on from is
We have to wait on some translation stuff as well, just some final confirmations really, but we have no idea when they’re coming, so it wouldn’t be the best idea to drop them here and now, especially not in a thread that already has majority agreement and something that would require making an entire new cosmology blog for lol.Or they are waiting for mephs translation. just suggesting whatever counterargument is against tier 2-A. Thats what I look forward to, to be said here. Regardless whether you drop your crt itll probably get fra’d cause oh no cosmic mario is no good apparently. My last cent since its derailing now.
Dereck has traditional voting rights.2-B, possibly/likely 2-A: KingTempest, Maverick_Zero_X, Dereck03
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