About The Writer's influence in DC Comics and possible upgrade.

[Lohx07]

So, being objective: can anyone explain to me why The Writer isn't scaling with "The Unwritten" cosmology and construction in the wiki, considering it's relation with the "macro-scale" of DC Comics? The reasons for that are really simple:


1- The Writer, as is already know, is not only the manifestation of the writer in DC's main continuity and canonicity, but the manifestion of ALL the creative forces behind the DC as a publisher. Here on this wiki, his description on the profile is:

At least High Outerverse level, likely Boundless (Wrote DC Comics in its entirety, and is transcendent over all of its characters and concepts, as they are all nothing but fiction from their perspective. Vastly above The Overvoid, seeing as it is just a sheet of paper from his/her perspective, and their will always exist beyond anything that can be drawn in it, with multiple layers of fiction within fiction representing the "Real World" being ultimately still fictional simulations of it and under the full control of the Writer)

The "DC COMICS" in this context is not only DC' main continuity, but the publisher as a whole, since it would make no sense to limit the ultimate representation of the MAXIMUM creative expression of the publisher to an arbitrary, linear and totally changeable condition that is totally contingent on the creative forces as a whole (the continuity and canonicity of the main imprint).

2- The Writer is completely above the Hypertime, which was already explained in POTM'S cosmology blog as something that encompasses all of the publisher in a "macro-continuity". This would already be enough to justify this relation.

3-There isn't nothing that extracs "The Unwritten" from DC's totality as a publisher, so that would be enough, there is no point contradicting this.


Considering all of that, i don't see with The Writer shouldn't be placed consistently as Tier 0, since he would see even The Unwritten's cosmology as something completely arbitrary and contingent the same way he see DC's main verse, being completely unreachable in all potencial levels compared to all of that.

 

[PsychoWarper]

The Unwritten Cosmology isn’t considered as apart of the DC Cosmology, I don’t remember why but they are classified as seperate series.

 

[Lohx07]

But this isn't a problem, since The Writer's not limited to things like continuity and canonicity as DC's major representation.

 

[Lohx07]

"The Unwritten", like DC's main verse, is just an contingent element inside the ultimate creative force that TW represents, limiting him to just one of these two is the same thing as limiting God to an element within his Creation, and is completely nonsense and contradictory contradictory even with his profile here on this wiki.

This is a simple relation, really.

 

[QuasiYuri]

Cross-scaling like this wouldn't work. If there's an author avatar in a specific verse, it'll not scale to others ones the author did.

 

[Lohx07]

TW is not just an avatar of an specific author or something restricted like that, he is the representation of the whole creative force behind DC as a whole, and this has been proven in this same wiki several times, and it's even in TW's profile.

What you are saying would only be relevant in some way if TW was an manifestation limited to a certain scope, but that is completely below the actual influence in question.

 

[QuasiYuri]

If you can prove it means the entire industry and label for every stuff made by the company, then it could work.
Tho I didn't see this here.

 

[Lohx07]

Well, i can, but this was already proved several times...

 

[Xearsay]

Doesn’t the writer just live in Comic Book Limbo. I’m kind of confused on where the evidence for his rating comes from.

 

[Firestorm808]

We are in the process of revising our current DC cosmology standards in an upcoming CRT. Are you okay with saving this topic until then?

 

[Deagonx]

can anyone explain to me why The Writer isn't scaling with "The Unwritten" cosmology

Because the Unwritten isn't part of DC. It was published in Vertigo, but DC specifically dictated to Carey that he was not allowed to include anything from DC. There's no real basis for connecting two unrelated pieces of a fictional work just because they were published by the same company in real life. Especially since the Writer is meant to be Grant Morrison, who didn't participate in The Unwritten.

 

[Antvasima]

Deagonx is correct. We cannot scale between entirely separate fictional settings. I will close this thread.