a seperation key for dante in volume 1 key in devil may cry

[Reploidnoridomix]

Just a simple revise,i just noticed that in volume 1 key,the "tony" version of dante also have the same abillities as dante,the "tony" shouldn't have the same abillities as dante and here why

Name in dmc is concept,it give demon power,the moment dante deny his name and íntead he use other name "tony",he lose the power that the name dante give him,which mean the time he still have the "tony" name,he shouldn't have the demon physiology abillties and other power that the dante key have

So yeah we need two version of dante in volume 1,the "tony" abillities and "dante" abilliteis

 

[GilverTheProtoAngelo]

Actually they are separated keys but they don't look as much.
Anyways agree with spirit of OP.
We also need to specify on skill level of Tony since he downscale from Dante/Gilver because he scale above Black Angels.

 

[Reploidnoridomix]

yeah we should make it seperate like the pre dt and post dt key in the dmc 3 key

 

[Tanin_iver]

yeah we should make it seperate like the pre dt and post dt key in the dmc 3 key

Pre-Name/Post-Name, Pre-Dante/Post-Dante have u decided the naming yet.
Anyways agree FRA

 

[Reploidnoridomix]

Pre-Name/Post-Name, Pre-Dante/Post-Dante have u decided the naming yet.
Anyways agree FRA

I think the name is okay since the pre-dante is somehow lmao

 

[GilverTheProtoAngelo]

Tony Redgrave(Vol1)/Dante(Vol1 and Manga).
Keep it simple.

 

[Reploidnoridomix]

so bump ?

 

[Tanin_iver]

he shouldn't have the demon physiology abillties and other power that the dante key have

Slight correction, he has some of the abilities of Sparda Inheritance which is there in Demon Physiology page. So we can't exactly remove the physiology, but we have to specify the stuff.

 

[Reploidnoridomix]

Slight correction, he has some of the abilities of Sparda Inheritance which is there in Demon Physiology page. So we can't exactly remove the physiology, but we have to specify the stuff.

yeah totally forgot that dante still have sparda blood inside lol

 

[Tanin_iver]

I would like to make a suggestion tho. Why not merge Dante from novel until Pre DT Dante in DMC3 and only separate Tony as there isn't any huge quantifiable powerup between these keys.

 

[GilverTheProtoAngelo]

Ask Tony

 

[Reploidnoridomix]

bump

 

[Reploidnoridomix]

super bump,I really need this so that I can make 8-C dante fight without :'dude this guy have 9-D hax blah blah"

 

[Tanin_iver]

super bump,I really need this so that I can make 8-C dante fight without :'dude this guy have 9-D hax blah blah"

What's needed now?

 

[Reploidnoridomix]

What's needed now?

the key have been separate

 

[Random-Helper323]

This is a seperate issue, but not major enough to make a seperate CRT over.

The Regeneration page lists Dante as an example of Mid Regeneration. That should probably be updated.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

This is a seperate issue, but not major enough to make a seperate CRT over.

The Regeneration page lists Dante as an example of Mid Regeneration. That should probably be updated.

Dante as Tony has mid regen so...

As for the OP, any idea of how you want it to be?

 

[Random-Helper323]

Dante as Tony has mid regen so...

As for the OP, any idea of how you want it to be?

Well there is a clear difference between Tony and Dante, so a seperate key might make sense. Although there is also a significant power jump when he gets his DT in DMC3. I guess we could equate Dante at the end of the novel to Dante in the DMC3 manga and the start of DMC3. Although he gets another power boost in the manga.

For the regeneration page, listing only his regeneration from his weakest incarnation seems a bit misleading. Doesn't Alucard have two listings on that page, one for his main incarnation and one for Schrodinger?

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Yeah but any draft of something about how you envision it to be

 

[Random-Helper323]

Yeah but any draft of something about how you envision it to be

If you mean the key seperation, I guess "Tony Redgrave" | DMC1 Light Novel Dante | DMC3 Dante.

For the regeneration page I'd say:

Examples for Mid Regeneration:

Dante without his true name from Devil May Cry.

Examples for High Godly Regeneration:

Dante and other high level demons from Devil May Cry.

Or some variation of that.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

And for the P&A separation?

 

[Random-Helper323]

And for the P&A separation?

Isn't that already covered above? I came here to raise the issue with the regeneration page since it didn't seem worth making a whole new thread over. I guess Tony only gets the basic abilities he displayed and only later Dante has the demon abilities and higher stuff.

 

[GilverTheProtoAngelo]

For the regeneration page, listing only his regeneration from his weakest incarnation seems a bit misleading. Doesn't Alucard have two listings on that page, one for his main incarnation and one for Schrodinger?

Dante is a popular visual reference for Mid regen. NVM that his profile shows him higher via lore.

The Regen page purpose is different than a standard character page. So don't fret over it.

 

[Random-Helper323]

Dante is a popular visual reference for Mid regen. NVM that his profile shows him higher via lore.

The Regen page purpose is different than a standard character page. So don't fret over it.

I guess... It just seems misleading.

I'm actually not sure he is a popular reference for regeneration, considering how many people don't know he can regenerate or even try to argue that he doesn't have any regeneration.

 

[GilverTheProtoAngelo]

I don't believe that....
Regeneration is a popular quality attributed with Dante, right alongside his combat skills, to the point that it's a meme.
Saying otherwise is just plain talking out of ass. Like imagine if someone said Deadpool or Hulk didn't have regeneration.

 

[Random-Helper323]

I don't believe that....
Regeneration is a popular quality attributed with Dante, right alongside his combat skills, to the point that it's a meme.
Saying otherwise is just plain talking out of ass. Like imagine if someone said Deadpool or Hulk didn't have regeneration.

People have argued that Dante has no regeneration, and have even said that he'd die if stabbed in the heart. One person on the Death Battle forums (I think it was one of the research team actually) even tried to use the times Dante has survived being eaten to prove that he'd die if something huge ate him. Before DMC4 was released it was even generally accepted that Dante was wall level. DMC4 forced them to accept Multi City Block Level, but people contested that too. DMC being downplayed is a long tradition.

 

[Tanin_iver]

People have argued that Dante has no regeneration, and have even said that he'd die if stabbed in the heart. One person on the Death Battle forums (I think it was one of the research team actually) even tried to use the times Dante has survived being eaten to prove that he'd die if something huge ate him. Before DMC4 was released it was even generally accepted that Dante was wall level. DMC4 forced them to accept Multi City Block Level, but people contested that too. DMC being downplayed is a long tradition.

There's one Respect Thread in Reddit that actually argues for this, even tho in the very first game he survives being impaled through the chest unscathed

 

[Random-Helper323]

There's one Respect Thread in Reddit that actually argues for this, even tho in the very first game he survives being impaled through the chest unscathed

Many of his most basic abilities are intentionally overlooked. For whatever reasons people go looking for excuses to downplay DMC. That G1 blog with Nero and Hellboy was no exception; DMC is frequently subject to double standards. Even Ben Singer dismissed Nightmare destroying the demon world as just a statement right before he claimed Kratos scales above universal destruction, and of course overlooked the fact that too is based on statements. People show serious bias against the DMC verse. More recently we have the hitbox argument that was actually treated seriously even though it was literally a call to impose harsher rules for in-game dodging feats only on DMC.

Some abilities just elude people though, like the fact that the sword Trish put through Dante was held horizontally and put right through his spine, an action that would have prevented signals going down the spine past that point, and yet his legs still worked even with the sword still stuck there, proving that in addition to healing via regeneration, Dante's body does not function like a human's or indeed like any animal. His legs work just fine even without his spine connecting them to his brain.

 

[Tanin_iver]

Some abilities just elude people though, like the fact that the sword Trish put through Dante was held horizontally and put right through his spine, an action that would have prevented signals going down the spine past that point, and yet his legs still worked even with the sword still stuck there, proving that in addition to healing via regeneration, Dante's body does not function like a human's or indeed like any animal. His legs work just fine even without his spine connecting them to his brain.

My God that some big brain u used there to find a new feat.

 

[Random-Helper323]

My God that some big brain u used their to find a new feat.

It's more that I study martial arts, weapons, history and animals in real life, and I notice things like that.

 

[GilverTheProtoAngelo]

........
People be wild out in the boonies to think like that..... Damn

 

[Random-Helper323]

........
People be wild out in the boonies to think like that..... Damn

Is it really that strange to think of that stuff? I guess I am unusually focused on weak points due to my background...

Anyway, it occurred to me that Dante being able to do that is a viable ability, since it provides protection from things targeting his nervous system and even his brain itself. If he can still walk with his spinal cord no longer connecting his brain to his legs, then attacks targeting those signals likely won't work, and the same is likely true for pressure points targeting nerves as well.

 

[GilverTheProtoAngelo]

He does have a crazy immortality 2

 

[Random-Helper323]

He does have a crazy immortality 2

Yeah, but surviving injuries to the spinal cord isn't the same thing as still being able to walk with that spinal cord severed. It proves that pressure point attacks are useless and that attacks targeting the nervous system are useless.

 

[Tanin_iver]

Yeah, but surviving injuries to the spinal cord isn't the same thing as still being able to walk with that spinal cord severed. It proves that pressure point attacks are useless and that attacks targeting the nervous system are useless.

Oh my, I think this should be in Sparda heritage.

 

[Random-Helper323]

Oh my, I think this should be in Sparda heritage.

It seems worth a mention, since many characters use pressure points and nervous system manipulation to screw with their enemy (Byakugan users from Naruto, Batman and Superman from DC, Mayuri from Bleach, Beerus and Whis from DBS, to name just a few), and it also means injuries intended to make body parts stop functioning likely won't work either, even if the attacker can nullify the high-godly regeneration.