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A references for common feats page?
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Ah RIP
What's tje value now?
What's tje value now?
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And how much energy does it take to strangle someone to death?
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Aha what is the cross-section area of a skull?AguilaR101 said:
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Well, a quick estimation of what it would take to crush an engagement ring sized diamond by using the measurements from these page
Use this calculator to find cross-sectional area of an oval with 6.10mm and 6.14mm, give me an area of 29.4mm2, multiply by 110,000 to get a total of 3234000 newtons or 329,776.22 kgs, 329.776 Tonnes which is Class K lifting strength.
It's reliant on size of the diamond, so for specific instances of such a feat it could be much higher.
Use this calculator to find cross-sectional area of an oval with 6.10mm and 6.14mm, give me an area of 29.4mm2, multiply by 110,000 to get a total of 3234000 newtons or 329,776.22 kgs, 329.776 Tonnes which is Class K lifting strength.
It's reliant on size of the diamond, so for specific instances of such a feat it could be much higher.
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I think it's 9-C but I don't know.
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Would this be worth calculating?Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan said:
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I don't think it will yield anything substantial, a cup can shatter if dropped from an altitude of a couple of meters, and it's also hard to calculate because of the hollowness.
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Would this be worth calculating?
Strangling to death requires skill aside fom strength, and it is about wrestling of lifting strength between the two parties. Like if Y can choke X harder than X can struggle off from Y for an extended period of time, Y will strangle X to death. Like 1710 J can hang a 70 kg person to death by dropping the hanged man at 2.49 m in an 1888 British execution provided the man cannot struggle off. So a lifting energy differential bigger than that should help one strangle the another.
Strangling to death requires skill aside fom strength, and it is about wrestling of lifting strength between the two parties. Like if Y can choke X harder than X can struggle off from Y for an extended period of time, Y will strangle X to death. Like 1710 J can hang a 70 kg person to death by dropping the hanged man at 2.49 m in an 1888 British execution provided the man cannot struggle off. So a lifting energy differential bigger than that should help one strangle the another.
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You'd probably have to pixelscale the area from one of those anatomy pictures where they show a cross section of a head.
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What attack potency level would be for crushing a ring sized diamond?
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I have calculated anyway.AguilaR101 said:
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Next batch:
24. Vaping a human: "Average body temperature is 97.7┬░C or 37.5┬░C " one of those shouldn't be ┬░C.
Page regarding skin & bone melting doesn't load for me.
982.2┬░C-37.5┬░C = 944.7┬░C Ôëá 1343.5 ┬░C
Aside from that I would include the latent heat for water. For the rest it doesn't make sense to do so, but for water it's a good idea.
25. Freezing a human: Why is the heat change 41┬░? 38┬░ should be enough.
But mostly ok. One should probably explain where the values come form, though.
26. Destroying the surface: Yep, that's fine.
27. Earths rotational energy: More or less same result as here, so it's ok.
28. Surviving Sun: No point in me checking that, but was already accepted in the past.
29. Punching hole through door:
Source for average door thickness?
Should be fine aside from that.
30. Breaking a bone: Nothing to check. Is Ok.
31. Destroying a sky scraper: Low end probably makes more sense.
I think this is ok.
32. Destroying a plane: Looks ok. For the page it should be pointed out that airplanes vary a lot and that shooting one down Ôëá fragmentation.
33. Melting a plane: Should be ok.
34. Muleting a tank: Not much point in me checking this. Some of the cut out explanations should be cut in again, though.
35. Melting a lake: I don't know why the pear lake was chosen, but the measurements of lakes are so varied, that there is no point of making a standard calculation for that. (And lakes usually aren't 100% frozen)
24. Vaping a human: "Average body temperature is 97.7┬░C or 37.5┬░C " one of those shouldn't be ┬░C.
Page regarding skin & bone melting doesn't load for me.
982.2┬░C-37.5┬░C = 944.7┬░C Ôëá 1343.5 ┬░C
Aside from that I would include the latent heat for water. For the rest it doesn't make sense to do so, but for water it's a good idea.
25. Freezing a human: Why is the heat change 41┬░? 38┬░ should be enough.
But mostly ok. One should probably explain where the values come form, though.
26. Destroying the surface: Yep, that's fine.
27. Earths rotational energy: More or less same result as here, so it's ok.
28. Surviving Sun: No point in me checking that, but was already accepted in the past.
29. Punching hole through door:
Source for average door thickness?
Should be fine aside from that.
30. Breaking a bone: Nothing to check. Is Ok.
31. Destroying a sky scraper: Low end probably makes more sense.
I think this is ok.
32. Destroying a plane: Looks ok. For the page it should be pointed out that airplanes vary a lot and that shooting one down Ôëá fragmentation.
33. Melting a plane: Should be ok.
34. Muleting a tank: Not much point in me checking this. Some of the cut out explanations should be cut in again, though.
35. Melting a lake: I don't know why the pear lake was chosen, but the measurements of lakes are so varied, that there is no point of making a standard calculation for that. (And lakes usually aren't 100% frozen)
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@DontTalkDT
Would you agree this compressive strength calc from Spino's blog?
Would you agree this compressive strength calc from Spino's blog?
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So Low 7-B for vaporizing a Skyscraper is okay? The real problem is melting a skyscraper being 7-A seems way off since melting should be below vaporization.
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Ant, i'm trying to tell him that if he agrees the calc about neck crushing which is compressive strength.
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The only profile I know of that's 7-A via melting a skyscraper is CAS-Class Assault Carrier.
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Hmm. I suppose that a new calculation might have to be made in that case.
Perhaps DontTalkDT can inspect both of these calculations, to see which one is correct, as they seem to contradict each other?
Perhaps DontTalkDT can inspect both of these calculations, to see which one is correct, as they seem to contradict each other?
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User blog:Jasonsith/Jasonsith Model of Bending ObjectsKLOL506 said:
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Hey Ant. One of the calc members agrees with the compressive strength calc.
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Did you message him about compressive strength calc to make him agree? I tried to message him, but he didn't reply.
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I'm still worring about upgrading Jack Bauer to make him street or wall level tier.
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Me and KLOL are still waiting for DT too. So we can finish my one character upgrade thread that i've been worrying about.
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I think the numbers have shifted? I was at melting a lake, so I will continue from 40. Tell me if I have accidentally skipped over something.
40. punching through a wall: I'm not sure why the calc works with walls, but talks about doors.
In any case it is a decent low end, i think.
41. Durability to be covered in fire: I think 250┬░C might actualy be kinda low for fire? Unless someone can tell me some common flame that is that cold at least. According to wikipedia even a candle flame is 1000┬░C. Even a cigarette reaches 400┬░C it seems.
Aside from that ok, I think.
42. Durability to tank lava: No point in checking my own calc.
43. Destroying a table: Probably ok.
44. Shattering a windshield: Probably ok.
45. Breaking a neck: Ok, so we are assuming a really broken neck.
Is there a reason to assume the largest vertebrae is broken? Like, is the the most common one to break?
There is a mistake in the volume conversion:
5.27 mm x 5.14 mm x 7.08 mm = 0.527 cm * 0.514 cm * 0.708 cm = 0.191781624 cm^3
0.191781624 cm^3 * 2 = 0.383563248 cm^3 Ôëá 38.356 cc
Same mistake with the other volume. It should be 2.55575 cc not 255.575cc
That aside, one wants to add the volume together first and then multiply with the J/cc.
Hence: (0.383563248 + 2.55575) x 51.6 = 151.6685635968 J
40. punching through a wall: I'm not sure why the calc works with walls, but talks about doors.
In any case it is a decent low end, i think.
41. Durability to be covered in fire: I think 250┬░C might actualy be kinda low for fire? Unless someone can tell me some common flame that is that cold at least. According to wikipedia even a candle flame is 1000┬░C. Even a cigarette reaches 400┬░C it seems.
Aside from that ok, I think.
42. Durability to tank lava: No point in checking my own calc.
43. Destroying a table: Probably ok.
44. Shattering a windshield: Probably ok.
45. Breaking a neck: Ok, so we are assuming a really broken neck.
Is there a reason to assume the largest vertebrae is broken? Like, is the the most common one to break?
There is a mistake in the volume conversion:
5.27 mm x 5.14 mm x 7.08 mm = 0.527 cm * 0.514 cm * 0.708 cm = 0.191781624 cm^3
0.191781624 cm^3 * 2 = 0.383563248 cm^3 Ôëá 38.356 cc
Same mistake with the other volume. It should be 2.55575 cc not 255.575cc
That aside, one wants to add the volume together first and then multiply with the J/cc.
Hence: (0.383563248 + 2.55575) x 51.6 = 151.6685635968 J
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I have shifted the numbers slightly to remove some feats deemed unnecessary, yes.
Thanks for the evaluations.
Thanks for the evaluations.
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What about compressive strength which is neck crushing?
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All of the problems mentioned above carry over to that. (except the last one, I guess)
Aside from all of those probably ok, though I imagine that some rather specific information are needed for that to be the best approximation.
(500 joules if you want the number)
Aside from all of those probably ok, though I imagine that some rather specific information are needed for that to be the best approximation.
(500 joules if you want the number)
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Anwers to 45:
I have no idea why I said that vertebra was the largest one when it is actually the smallest one I could find dimensions for. I checked the breaking the spine calc I did and I said the same thing even though it is the one of the smallest I could find for the back. Sorry for the confusion on that.
Yes, I'm sure I made a mistake with the volume. I think it was when I converted the mm to cm to find cubic cm and it went downhill from there.
I have no idea why I said that vertebra was the largest one when it is actually the smallest one I could find dimensions for. I checked the breaking the spine calc I did and I said the same thing even though it is the one of the smallest I could find for the back. Sorry for the confusion on that.
Yes, I'm sure I made a mistake with the volume. I think it was when I converted the mm to cm to find cubic cm and it went downhill from there.
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500 Joules for what?
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