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  1. My Big Batch of Calculations (Part 1)

    This is a discussion of some of the calculations I've made (as of 9/20/21) over the past 7 months. I know some of these calcs might seem questionable, weird, and... well, I'll save that for when I show off my gran obra maestra. But just promise me one thing, will you? Try to read the entire blog...
  2. Sus

    what value is this

    destroying a spherical object that has the radius of a 1.92*10^47 milky ways.
  3. Poppio2

    Thunderbolt Fantasy Calcs request

    I want to make profiles for the characters of Thunderbolt fantasy, is it possible for anyone to volunteer time to help in this endeavor? I just want to start out with one of the fights like these:
  4. Jamesthetaker

    Melting entire city block feat

    Basically what the title are. Lately i have running into a problem that i don't know how to find the "mass" of entire city block. Can someone give me an advice?
  5. Jamesthetaker

    Does temperature feat still calculatetable?

    I have wandering around calculation stuff for a few days and i has noticed someone said that heating or cooling are qualify for AP only, they don’t scale to striking strength or durability because it's not blunt force. Is this true?
  6. Jamesthetaker

    Feat Question

    How do you calc feat of a character cutting a mountain in half?
  7. Jamesthetaker

    Calculation Question

    Hi there, i'm new to calculation stuff so i wanna ask on how to calc these feat: 1. A bandit was able to throw 10kg javelins up to ten of meters away. 2. A character was able to melt entire city block and set entire plaza on fire.
  8. KingTempest

    Planet Size via Atmosphere

    Can you calculate the size of a planet via the height of its atmosphere?
  9. RethPo

    Potential common feat calculation request

    I wanted to request a calc to be made for how much it takes to destroy a train carraige. Might help quite a few verses especially with getting all the materials that compose it together if they havent been already.
  10. KingTempest

    Calculations Picture Change

    https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Calculations https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WritersCannotDoMath Bro this isn't even right. 10 pounds to ounces = 160 ounces. 160 / (1/20) = 3,200 beans. Even with his math. 20 * 16 * 10 = 20 * 160 = 3,200. Superman didn't even count this right...
  11. Spinoirr

    How strong do you need to be to turn a Jupiter brain into a black hole

    Ok how strong is crushing a supercomputer the shape and size of Jupiter into a black hole be? Like useing a forcefield to crush a supercomputer the size of Jupiter made of steel into a black hole
  12. Wokistan

    Common Calculation Concerns: Skull Crushing and FTE Movement

    I finally got off my ass to make this thing I'd had in the back of my mind for months. TLDR, skull crushing isn't 9-B and FTE isn't (necessarily) subsonic. Skull Crushing The old Xcano calc is bad, and Xcano himself disavowed it. The problem with it is that it treats the skull as just a cube...
  13. LIFE_OF_KING

    Acid calculation

    So, one character in particular turns the ocean horizon into acid. Is there a method to calculate the energy for this? I was thinking of calculating the volume of the horizon and then multiplying by the pulverization value of the human body (Since the same acid pulverizes human bodies), but I...
  14. Rashuba

    Striking Strength Brute Suit Totally Spies

    I have been confused about a certain thing in Clover's profile seeing as we know the Brute Suit can take 100000 Megatons of Damage due to it being said to us in the show, however, it has never been shown to us she has a Striking Strength around At least Large Building Class, most likely Large...
  15. The_Smashor

    What is the mass per cubic centimeter of amethyst?

    What the title says. I need to figure this out for a calc.
  16. FanSyst

    Are there ways to quantify the destabilization of the core of a planet or star?

    I would be interested to know if there is or exists any way to quantify it.
  17. Furudo_Erika

    Why is Human and Athlete level so...low?

    I'll make this simple as this actually bothered me for over a year now. The upper limit for Human level seems quite low; a measly 100 joules. An average person can easily break past this limit. especially with kicks. This is because legs have a lot more mass than an arm, and a kick is also...
  18. The_Smashor

    Calculations should be put on the pages of everyone who scales to them

    So, I recently found some actual valid criticism (for once) of our website on Reddit. Don't let the title mislead you, it's not just shitting on us for disagreeing with the poster's personal opinions on the stats of anime/comic characters or whatever, it's actual criticism (Even if they aren't...
  19. Kyleb79

    Relativistic/FTL Kinetic Energy Question

    1) Now yes I am aware anything near the speed of light or faster cannot be reached, as it requires infinite energy. I'm not trying to disapprove of anything, I am rather just misunderstood and curious about this comparison. Though it always bothered me why the Speed of Light and above aren't...
  20. Kulf_Boba

    Fragmentation or Violent Fragmentation?

    For this feat, should normal Fragmentation or Violent Fragmentation be used? Fragmentation: Applied when the matter that was destroyed was turned into fairly large and distinguishable pieces. Violent Fragmentation: Applied when the matter that was destroyed was turned into small but still...
  21. Cul0r

    What is the formula for Relativistic Kinetic Energy

    I'm fixing a calc I want to do but the speed for something moving fast is relativistic, what is the formula?
  22. Furudo_Erika

    Watts or joules?

    What takes more priority over AP, watts or joules? I am wondering this since I have a calc worth around 5.392 tons of TNT (Large Building level), however, this attack was done by gathering the energy needed to do so in half a second, so a "quickened" attack if you will. Now, if it took a second...
  23. The Flight of Astro-Cat and Space Bug: A (possible) Miraculous Ladybug Flight Speed Calc.

    So I'm just gonna quick sum up a couple of things to help explain the calculation I'm about to do: In the Miraculous NY special, Adrien Agreste is about to leave Paris to go to NY, much to his chagrin as he promised Ladybug he will stay to protect the city. Long story short, he decides to not...
  24. LIFE_OF_KING

    Mount Fuji revision (?)

    I think this is simple. Currently on the wiki it is considered that the volume of the Mount Fuji is 4.181e11m^3, based on a diameter of 20 kilometers (Via pixelscale). But this site that explains the characteristics of the Mount Fuji says that the diameter is 50 kilometers. This changes the...
  25. GodlyCharmander

    Pulverization Calcs

    So, in a particular group, where we also do Powerscaling, the standard pulverization feats, which we use from both here, and other Wikis which seems to agree on the method, got confronted by supposedly far more accurate way to calculate said feats involving pulverization. This is the source for...
  26. Da_Lunge_Fish

    Anyone could help with pixel scaling?

    So, could anyone please help me with pixel scaling here? I just have no programs for that. Could anyone please calc the distance this guy spun here It's for a speed feat, and one person recommended me to pixel scale the distance
  27. Oleggator

    A question related to kicking person so hard that he flies long distance.

    OK here's Reference for common feats blog. The important thing for me here is "Attacking a Person such that the person flew across a distance before falling onto ground". I understood it at first, there's need height, mass, velocity which would be found with height and then KE by knowing mass...
  28. Nehz_XZX

    Gravitational time dilation standards

    I was on Discord and there was a discussion about gravitational time dilation. There are statements in Kingdom Hearts about worlds having different flows of time with there being one demonstration of that and someone said that we should assume that this is due to gravitational time dilation and...
  29. Nerd1435

    Fire Balls in Nuke explosions

    Why do you guys consider even the obvious fire ball radii as the radii of air-burst (20psi overpressure) ? For example when we see a 2.3km radius fireball and shockwaves are followed, it is still considered that 2.3km is the place till where 20psi overpressure is observed. Is there a reason...
  30. Nerd1435

    Pixel Scaling small stuff using low quality images

    Idk if all the calc staff keep this in mind when evaluating the calcs but when scaling sizes that are extremely small from those that are extremely large and vice versa, the image being used MUST be of very high quality with high pixel count as a rule. It's easy to cheat your way out or get...
  31. Cul0r

    How do I calculate a creation feat?

    I want to know how, on a similar thread here. Someone said they reflect it with AP, so how do I turn area into joules if thats the case? If you are curious, the area for this thing is 8,397,491.00391m^3.
  32. RatherClueless

    Cooling and Cloud Calculations

    Alright, let’s just start with why I am making this thread to begin with, considering we already had some of them before, with the last one being just a month old. Well, to make a long story short, I just couldn’t stand the gross amount of misinformation being spread throughout that thread. It...
  33. Peter1129

    Question about planet compression

    So I recently found a statement about a character that could compress Earth to the size of a sugar cube due to the immense pressure within its body. So I was wondering can compression via gravity like in this blog be used for compression via pressure? Or is pressure and gravity different so...
  34. Guileal

    Calculation for Maou Gakuin Speed

    Feat: I will use 1.75 for the height of the Anos,taking into account the average Japanese height Pixels: Anos (1043px) = 1.75 m Arm of Anos (391px) = 0.6560 m Pixels: Arm of Anos (129px) = 0.6560 m Anos distance to light (68px) = 0.3457 m Can't really know the movement that Anos...
  35. TheKillerYT

    Meteor calc

    So I think I need to sendit here for it to be calced? Heres the meteor how big is it? What lifting strength?
  36. DarkDragonMedeus

    Calculations Based on Time Frozen Backgrounds

    I have seen a few calculations using a particular method examples being this one as well as this one. The calculation appears to be done based on taking the speed of whatever the frozen object was normally, then dividing it by the speed of a snail, and then multiplying it by the speed in which...
  37. Zencha9

    Lighting up half the universe

    what would that give in terms of AP ?
  38. 1000TonsofFun

    How do you calculate fracturing energy?

    Trying to figure out how much more energy is needed to fracture a material like granite as opposed to fragmenting it
  39. Emirp sumitpo

    What is the average distance between solar systems?

    The title above, it's for a little calc I'm gonna do
  40. Agnaa

    Standardizing Default Assumptions For Calcs

    I think we should make concrete a list of assumptions for various things for calcs. Stuff like "Several = 3", "Instant = 1 second", and so on. Probably an instruction page of some sort. I believe that without this we end up with assumption inflation; people can pick the highest assumptions...
  41. Tiger123Dragon

    How do I find the size in which an object appears relative to its distance?

    How do I find the size in which an object appears relative to its distance?
  42. FanSyst

    What is the energy required to move the sun out of galactic orbit?

    I have observed calculations regarding the orbit that the earth follows with respect to the sun, but I don't know if it can do the same with the sun and the galaxy.
  43. FanSyst

    Where was the equation for the GBE of a star obtained?

    I've tried looking for it on the internet, but can't find it.
  44. Rodri_"Dante"

    Kinetic Energy when two characters are moving?

    Example: Character A is 60 kg and is flying at mach 3 Character B is 60 kg and is flying at mach 9 in the opposite direction, and crashes into character A on propouse to hurt them. How does character B's speed affect the kinetic energy calculation?
  45. HeadlessKramerGeoff777

    Shaking the earth to its core instantly?

    Came across a feat and I’m just curious what level you get for shaking the entire earth to it’s core instantly? I saw that there are calcs for a Magnitude 4 earthquake on a global scale that is Small Country but pretty sure that isn’t shaking the earth all the way to the core, simply just the...
  46. Da_Lunge_Fish

    FMA feat collection.

    Okay, sorry if I used this in a wrong way, but I think Fullmetal Alchemist needs to be feat searched. All the feats that are currently on their profiles but the Bradley blitzing feat and Ed's explosion feat come from chapters 1-10. There are probably higher feats, both alchemic transmutations...
  47. StrymULTRA

    Planetary KE calcs

    Basically this calc got rejected because "we can't apply KE to planetary busts because we can't know if the debris travelled at the same speed in the given time-frame" despite tons of similar calcs went accepted like this, this, this, this or even this So I've 2 options: Discard any Planetary...
  48. Half_Shiny

    Hatbot-Ler durability calc

    HatBot-Ler gets crushed by steel It takes 0.0375 seconds for the shadow to fall from the top of the screen to the bottom A HatBot is 87.3 cm a single pixel is 0.00329433962 cm Distance from the top is 222.367924528 cm or 2.22367924528meters from the top so it reaches the speed of...
  49. RanaProGamer

    Trident Of Atlantis Sinks Atlantis

    So after the previous DCEU Discussion, it is confirmed that the only feat that we can go off is the Atlantis sinking feat. So pretty straightforward. During an experiment, the Trident releases a powerful wave of energy which sinks Atlantis. video...
  50. Oliver_de_jesus

    Could anyone calculate this feat of Hatchiyack?

    the theme originated in Hilo vs but hey that's not important, could any member calculate the feat of Hatchiyack Warped and unstabilized large portions of the Northern Galaxy upon his birth?(feat) just to know an exact value
  51. Earthyboy

    My Hero Academia: Gran Torino blitzes Izuku

    In My Hero Academia Chapter 49, Gran Torino blitzes Izuku while he struggles to use Full Cowling. I'll be calculating how fast he's moving. Calculation Izuku height = 340.87px (1.66m) Distance Gran traveled = 2927.11px (8.58717399595m) I'll be using peak-human perception time here, which has...
  52. Earthyboy

    My Hero Academia: Base Izuku Durability

    In My Hero Academia Chapter 10, Izuku withstands an explosion from Katsuki. I'll be calculating the yield of this. Calculation Izuku height = 166cm (324.62px) Explosion diameter = 162cm (318.50px) Explosion radius = 81cm We'll be using the air blast explosion formula where Y =...
  53. Why is the creation of a universe a 3-A feat?

    I have seen many comments on multiple threads where it is mentioned that creating the matter of the observable universe is a 3-A feat while creating the space-time with all the matter is a low 2-C feat. I understand that we use the inverse square law and creation=destruction to calculate some...
  54. Drite77

    Shuumatsu no Izetta: A collection of feats

    Now, here is the thing, I was doing this in a blog in the wiki when suddenly the Forums died, I don't know where we are supposed to make calculations now, so I'm just making this thread Well, this is alot to cover, so let's keep this brief. This was asked by GoldenScorpions here and here...
  55. Iamunanimousinthat

    Necrozoma: Absorbing the light of the universe

    So, I looked on the Necrozoma page, and I saw that it was given 4-B for lighting up the Ultra Space, a solid calc. But what was not Calced was Necrozoma absorbing all the light in the Ultra Space. From what I've read and seen, the Ultra Space is a universe similar to ours, filled with stars...
  56. AppleLord

    Bleach Distance Calculation Revision

    Disclaimer: I haven't gotten used to this page yet, sorry if I posted this on the wrong place. I'm sure the mods can help me with that. After many of the calcs done for this feat were considered "incorrect" base on the assumptions made in the past by other members. I’ve concluded that a new...
  57. Stupits

    Anyone Want to do a calc on this feat from YYH

    Can someone do a calc for this? also this was done by two people so you might have to half the result
  58. Victikirby15

    Hitman Reborn: Daemon Spade flies from Italy to Japan

    Hey everybody! I've wanted to contribute a calc to the site for a while, and I found a pretty good one that I haven't seen anyone do before. I'm still getting used to the new forum, so apologies if this is the wrong place to put this. So, during the fourth major arc of Katekyo Hitman Reborn...
  59. Antvasima

    Calculations Requests Thread (New forum)

    This is the official thread for requesting calcs to be done by the members of the Calc Group and other senior editors. However, this help is entirely optional, and the people who do the requesting cannot expect that anybody will somehow be automatically interested in doing the requested calcs...
  60. Antvasima

    Calculations Evaluations (New forum)

    This thread is intended for users to link to new blog post calculations, to relay them to the community, and have them evaluated by the calculation group, without contacting the members individually. To evaluate important off-site calculations, preferably copy them to blog posts in this wiki...
  61. Hunterzillas

    Little Mermaid Speed and AP Feats

    Alright, so I'll give more attention to this series later, but for now there are two feats that can be given a quick look at. I tried to make a proper blog post to make these calcs...but it wouldn't let me, so idk where to put them. I think this is where they go. Anway: The Little Mermaid...
  62. JackJoyce

    Possible Superman (Christopher Reeve) Revision

    The famous island lifting feat in Superman Returns is considered to be 768.049 m/s or mach 2.23. However the escape velocity of Earth is 11186 m/s or mach 33. So it's a better option to use the later one I think
  63. Jasonsith

    Assorted Lifting Strength Discussion Thread

    As topic. Assorted lifting strength discussion thread. Featured topics: 1. Does throwing objects at a speed generate more lifting strength than just lifting it up Olympic weight lifting style? Can a higher value of lifting strength be deduced from throwing an object at a smaller mass? Say...
  64. DarkDragonMedeus

    Freezing and Temperature Feats Continued Again

    Continued from here or saved here. It has been agreed universally by staff that freezing and heating feats will continue to be treated interchangeably since it's the exact same feat but in the opposite direction. But there are other users who want to continue derailing that topic much further...
  65. UglyKittyCat238

    Evaporating the ocean

    What's the AP for evaporating the entire ocean?
  66. LoudCloud

    How would one calculate an imploding feat?

    Say, if someone were to telekinetically implode a building. I can't find any references for such a thing here.
  67. UglyKittyCat238

    Surface destroying question

    What would be the AP for destroying the surface of mountain ranges at fast speeds?
  68. UglyKittyCat238

    Cloud splitting question

    What's the common AP for splitting clouds and my specific question is what's the AP for splitting several miles worth of clouds?
  69. Antvasima

    Calculation Evaluations - 19

    This thread is intended for users to link to new blog post calculations, to relay them to the community, and have them evaluated by the calculation group, without contacting the members individually. To evaluate important off-site calculations, preferably copy them to blog posts in this wiki...
  70. Newendigo

    New Rule about Blogs.

    This is a problem that I'm sure a lot of people had to deal at some point, and that is looking for blogs, without knowing the owner or the threads in which those were posted, it might take an unecesary amount of time to eventually find them. So I came up with this: "When making a blog for a...
  71. Ari64-SP

    Explosion yield formula

    Hey, so I was curious, and decided to test the formula, just for fun and I found that it wasn't all that correct. so I used nuke map, and. Put in 16 kilotons of tnt as the yield of the explosion, and these rates for the radius'. Fireball: 0.240 km 20 psi: 0.55 km 5 psi: 1.15 km Radiation...
  72. Stefano4444

    About feats that involve spoilers

    Should i wait for a time before post any feats that could be considered spoilers? Or i only need to put a spoiler tag in the description of the feat and in the link?
  73. Ugarik

    Prober way to calculate fragmentation and pulverization energy

    As you may still remember I made this thread awhile ago but I never cover how to deal with pulverization or violent fragmentation. Take a note that I didn't find any source regarding the issue so the formula below is mostly intuitive though it makes sense from a mathematical point of view...
  74. Ugarik

    Destruction Values of Glass

    Our source: http://web.archive.org/web/20170322181309/http://www.narutoforums.com/xfa-blog-entry/because-fluttershit-sucks-and-we-need-something.34025/ Frag. should be based on shear strength on the material and v. frag on tensile strength. But our glass values are both based on its fracture...
  75. Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan

    Problem with Celestial Body Feats

    Problem Currently, we are allowed to calculate the KE for celestial body feats, but when it surpasses light speed we use the gravitational binding energy of the celestial body instead. The problem is, when you move a planet close to light speed, it actually gets a higher AP than moving a planet...
  76. Antvasima

    Calculation Requests Thread - 18

    This is the official thread for requesting calcs to be done by the members of the Calc Group and other senior editors. However, this help is entirely optional, and the people who do the requesting cannot expect that anybody will somehow be automatically interested in doing the requested calcs...
  77. Stefano4444

    Energy for shaking materials like steel and wood.

    Does anyone know how much energy do you need shake an object made of specific material such as steel and wood? I need for calc this feat.
  78. Duedate8898

    Meliodas *vaporizes* Danafor discussion

    I stole this from Ah Gou: This has already been addressed and currently, it's accepted as pulverization, but recently we got additional info for the scene by Nakaba himself (it's a sketch so deal with it) which was meant for the anime adaptation (so it's canon). The narrator says "The fires in...
  79. Elizhaa

    Reference for Common Feats Additions

    Additions: Average Neutron Stars GBE https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Assaltwaffle/Speed_needed_to_create_a_vacuum https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan/Speed_required_to_run_on_water
  80. CNBA3

    Real World Regular Soldiers stats?

    I was just wondering, are usually real world regular soldiers considered athletic stats or peak human stats? Like athletic speed and strength and durability? Or peak like Bruce Lee?
  81. Wokistan

    Angsize question

    By assuming a typical human field of view it allows one to estimate the size of an object if one knows the distance from the point of view or estimate the distance to the point of view if one knows the size of the object. ~ Angular Size My question is, why are we saying a typical...
  82. Stefano4444

    Question about explosions

    There is a way to find the size of an explosion if it happen beyond the horizon? Like, there is no objects to use for pixerscaling but i have a rough idea about what distance the explosion happen?
  83. CNBA3

    Center of Mass Question

    I have a question as to how one gets an answer with the final formula on the late G[http:// https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Gwynbleiddd wynbleiddd's] Blog with Center of Mass : $ W=Gm^2(1/ri-1/rf) $ I tried doing the formula to see if I can get the same answer as he did but I get...
  84. Jasonsith

    High speed Newtonian and relativistic kinetic energy feats

    We have our rules in this page that the relativistic kinetic energy diverges towards infinity for speeds approaching the speed of light. So to not get inflated extremely high results: Kinetic energy calculated for faster than light objects, or more precise for objects for which...
  85. Maverick_Zero_X

    Blowing up the Sphinx

    What's the AP value for destroying the Sphinx with an explosion?
  86. Robot972

    Taking more power than a small city?

    I'm trying to work on profiles for a verse. One item/weapon is used to power a machine that "requires more electricity than a small city." How would I go about calculating something like this?
  87. Antvasima

    Calculation Evaluations - 18

    This thread is intended for users to link to new blog post calculations, to relay them to the community, and have them evaluated by the calculation group, without contacting the members individually. To evaluate important off-site calculations, preferably copy them to blog posts in this wiki...
  88. Jamesthetaker

    Kamen Rider Double Downgrade

    So, currently Double Riders is having 7-A rating via this feat. But there's many problems with this: First of all, the feat doesn't belong to IceAge Dopant but to Isaka, another character that arguable could do the same thing. Therefore the proposed scaling to W because they beat IceAge became...
  89. Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan

    References for Common Feats Requests and Evaluations Thread 3

    Continued from here. As the title suggests, this thread is for requesting feats to be calculated or evaluated for the References for Common Feats page.
  90. Livinmeme

    question about calc from team fortress 2

    so weekly do a cal who was acepted but the point is that the calc was calced 3 times so wath is more reliable?
  91. The_Smashor

    Titanium destruction value?

    I was thinking of making a page for a certain verse, but I need to know the destruction values for Titanum first.
  92. Mr_Exotic_Goldie

    dreadbears height

    i did some math and stuff to find dreadbears height: i used the fnaf 4 house...and the average 2 story house is around 25 f and i counted how many houses tall dreadbear is which was roughly 9-10 houses (250 f) then i doubled it and counted another 5 houses for the legs beneath the level which...
  93. Lavcore

    Important Question Regarding Offsite Calcs

    so i know that in the offical calc eval thread it states: "To evaluate important off-site calculations, kindly create a separate thread in the calc group discussio forum section, and then post a link to it here." however i think this method is inefficient. 1. when was the last time you've...
  94. LordTracer

    Destruction Values of Earth

    What would be the attack potency for destroying the Earth with the methods of Violent Fragmentation, Pulverization and Vaporization?
  95. Robot972

    Energy used to power a small city

    So, I'm trying to make a profile for some characters/objects from a certain series (unimportant). In this series, one of the weapons is used to power a machine that requires "more electricity than a small city". What steps would I take to figuring this out?
  96. Tetsucabrah

    Is this bomb 1 ton of TNT?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAYVMXYYAp4 If it is it kinda seems way more powerful than a lot of calcs I've seen with far higher values than 1 ton.
  97. GodlyCharmander

    Kachi Katchin, and Dragon Ball Super calc request

    Grand Priest stated the material that formed the arena on the Tournament of Power was the hardest thing in the universe, which means, it was way harder and denser than Nuclear Pasta, the strongest material existent in the universe as we know, having a density of 10^14 g/cc, calculating the...
  98. Rich987

    Lightning Speed in the Naruto Universe.

    I was seeing some calculations of some Naruto characters and I found one from Kakashi intercepting Raiton: Gian from Kakuzu, I realized that they had accepted that Jutsu was a real lightning, but they didn't use the speed of a real lightning from Narutoverse, and used the our universe, I wanted...
  99. Jaakubb

    Problems with mountain related feats

    There are several problems with calcs such as these. First of all, they assume that the minimum height of a mountain of 2000 feet. This is not true because [is no official minimum height for a mountain.] Mount wycheproof for example has a summit with an altitude of 486 feet above sea level, much...
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