9-A World's Greatest Fighters Tournament: Brad Armstrong vs Johan Seong (Round 1)

[RandomGuy2345]

Despite some technical difficulties, we're finally continuing the 9-A World's Greatest Fighters Tournament!

Introducing first, he may not look big (compared to his opponent), but size matters not! It's Brad Armstrong!

And his opponent, he is a master of copying virtually any martial art technique he sees with his very own eyes, it's Johan Seong!

Rules are stated here.

He might not be dead: 9 (Divine, Ecstasy, Adem, Random, AThe, Armor, Pink_God, Razor, COB)

Copy Cat:

None of this pls:

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Brad: 236.31 Megajoules

Johan: 160 Megajoules

Brad holds a ~1.48x AP advantage.

 

[Chariot190]

Fire might be a tad zesty ngl.
Does bro have anyway to mitigate that?

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Fire might be a tad zesty ngl.

Why did you use that terminology lmao.

Does bro have anyway to mitigate that?

Waiting for supporters.

 

[CBslayeR]

Fire might be a tad zesty ngl.
Does bro have anyway to mitigate that?

Not familiar with either but Instinctive reaction and analytical prediction seem like a way


Can Brad resist fear manip?

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

Can Brad resist fear manip?

With the Locket, yeah, although it's optional equipment
Otherwise, Failure Brad is Brad when he's transforming into a Joy Mutant so lad's fear manip probably won't amount to much

 

[Chariot190]

Not familiar with either but Instinctive reaction and analytical prediction seem like a way


Can Brad resist fear manip?

Analytical prediction, ngl, I wouldn't bet to much on. Like why the **** would you analyze and predict some mf is about to shoot a kamehameha at you? His verse doesn't have stuff like that iirc, ain't no way he's gonna predict that.

 

[DivineAura44]

Fire might be a tad zesty ngl.

Nah if he gets hit by that, he’s def cooked.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Johan's just going to have to dodge, then.

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

All of Brad's Failure Techniques use fire somewhat, his Dropkick has him utilize his fire to propel himself in the air through the air at high speeds, Fire Blast is the fire kamehameha, Charging Headbutt creates an explosion as soon as Brad makes contact and Burning Head Slide envelops him in fire

 

[RandomGuy2345]

It'd honestly be funny to see Brad advance after being given a second chance.

 

[DivineAura44]

I did it, I fell asleep, Jesus Christ .
Anyways yeah Johan is gonna have to dodge that or he's cooked. How skillful is Brad?

 

[Armorchompy]

CQC and Info Analysis don't really seem like the sort that let you win a fight on their own here, I'll wait for a post before voting but Brad seems to hold most of the cards here. Stamina, healing, bombs... Power mimicry is good but the Armstrong Style isn't anything too elaborate, Brad just uses it well, Johan can't really copy the fire stuff and just trying to beat Brad at his own game isn't going to work with the AP gap, especially once he pops Joy.

I did it, it fell asleep, Jesus Christ .
Anyways yeah Johan is gonna have to dodge that or he's cooked. How skillful is Brad?

Can fight over 20 armed foes at once or win an entire pro wrestling tournament with both his arms chopped off at the shoulder, fight some of the toughest people in the world here (many of which use weaponry, while he doesn't really), probably some other stuff too, been years since I played the game.

 

[DivineAura44]

Like I don't know how Johan wins this. Even if he dodged the dropkick, headbutt charge, or burning head slide (which based on his great dodging technique he might be able to) when he sees Brad tryna use a fire kamehameha, he's not gonna think "my life is in danger", he's gonna think "what is this nerd doing" before getting burnt to a crisp. There's no magical elements in his verse. There doesn't seem like a point in drawing up a skill argument.

Is he likely to lead out with Fire Blast? If he does Johan lost but if he doesn't, you could say Johan will eventually learn of Brad's magic powers and be more cautious.

 

[Armorchompy]

it's a videogame so it's not really known but i'd say he uses it decently frequently

 

[Second22]

Yeah, I can't figure out how Johan could win. Match like this, Yohan rarely encounters in his verse.

 

[DivineAura44]

Welp I'll start of the voting, Brad Armstrong fra (should have picked another character, didn't know they would be tough like that.)

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

Brad FRA

 

[RandomGuy2345]

2 votes for Johan.

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

Brad FRA

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Johan would've had a better chance against someone like Juri Han or Batman tbh.

Yeah, Batman has weapons, but they won't be as big of a factor as they are here.

 

[DivineAura44]

Johan would've had a better chance against someone like Juri Han or Batman tbh.

Yeah, Batman has weapons, but they won't be as big of a factor as they are here.

Should have picked my dawg from Questism. He seemed like he wouldn't have met the hax threshold but he less haxy then some of the characters here.

Edit: Wouldn't have made the AP requirements now that I realize. I keep thinking of him as 9-A because he's probably gonna be upgraded soon.

 

[AThe1412]

Brad FRA. His interactions with Jax will be interesting so I hope they get to fight each other.

 

[Armorchompy]

i'll FRA brad to spee things up

 

[The_Pink_God]

I'm going to remake Brad's P&A here on VSBW, but that ain't changing this battle
Who would've thought that Fire > Skills™
Brad fra

 

[Razor]

Brad fra

 

[RandomGuy2345]

That's grace!

 

[DivineAura44]

That's grace!

You don't gotta sound happy about it

 

[RandomGuy2345]

You don't gotta sound happy about it

You can always pit Johan against some of the Pro Wrestling people and duke it out.

Though not right now. I have a tournament to manage.

 

[DivineAura44]

You can always pit Johan against some of the Pro Wrestling people and duke it out.

Though not right now. I have a tournament to manage.

So the most knowledgeable member of the verse is busy hosting a tournament meaning he won't have time to debate?

 

[Arnoldstone18]

Fire > Skills™

Im definitely missing context here. Ain’t no way.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Im definitely missing context here. Ain’t no way.

Brad's fire is too hot for Johan's skills.

 

[DivineAura44]

Im definitely missing context here. Ain’t no way.

If it was a verse where Johan knew powers existed, whether or not he's actual fought against it before he might have stood a chance. But the fact that it doesn't exist in his verse is too much of a disadvantage. He wouldn't be prepared for something crazy like that.

 

[DivineAura44]

Brad's fire is too hot for Johan's skills.

It doesn't even have to be that hot. As long as he can give 2nd degree burns on Johan's body in one blast, he's cooked.

 

[Arnoldstone18]

Fair enough

 

[RandomGuy2345]

So the most knowledgeable member of the verse is busy hosting a tournament meaning he won't have time to debate?

I actually don't mind if you were to make a match, tbh.

 

[Ciruno_Fortes_(COB)]

Just gonna leave this since I'm a day late here. I blame BG3

Anyway, Johan can actually solo an entire region Gangbuk in Korea at the same time.

Can instinctively sense and defend against an attack that comes from his blind spots.

The fire thing is likely gonna screw him up. I question this matchup immensely. But does it have any signs of actually showing any hints before the attack? PTJ characters can sense attacks from enemies (Jincheol sensed he was about to be decapitated by a watch before the attack even happened, among many others like Warren, Jake, and Jerry). Likely the fatal finisher here. But analytical prediction for Johan also gives him a hint when someone is about to attack by movement of their shoulders alone. With the attack being a kamehameha attack, I question who wouldn't dodge that. I think it'll definitely cook Johan, but that's if it hits and Johan has always been kinda a fast reacting boi with both instincts and Analytics.

Burning Head slide seems more fatal. Charging Headbutt can be redirected with Aikido (since Johan can really just flip you by touching your hands alone). I'm using Daniel as an example but here's what it looks like. So him grabbing his head and flipping him to slam him down is something Johan can do. Grappling + Aikido may restrict Brad to the ground (Class 5 vs Class 5). I'm not sure what Brad's go to for when grappled, but Johan would definitely gouge his eyes if he could.

Are the fire attacks based on movement? Since they do require charging and headbutt.

The locket thing not resisting fear is gonna be helpful with Johan making him afraid for a bit. Also Johan would be smart enough to snatch any items or weapons away.

Grapple

 

[Armorchompy]

Anyway, Johan can actually solo an entire region Gangbuk in Korea at the same time.

Can instinctively sense and defend against an attack that comes from his blind spots.

I'm not saying this isn't impressive but idk if it's really the type of skill that decides the match here, given that Brad is pretty skilled himself and way stronger and tougher

The fire thing is likely gonna screw him up. I question this matchup immensely. But does it have any signs of actually showing any hints before the attack? PTJ characters can sense attacks from enemies (Jincheol sensed he was about to be decapitated by a watch before the attack even happened, among many others like Warren, Jake, and Jerry). Likely the fatal finisher here. But analytical prediction for Johan also gives him a hint when someone is about to attack by movement of their shoulders alone. With the attack being a kamehameha attack, I question who wouldn't dodge that. I think it'll definitely cook Johan, but that's if it hits and Johan has always been kinda a fast reacting boi with both instincts and Analytics.

Looks like this

Burning Head slide seems more fatal. Charging Headbutt can be redirected with Aikido (since Johan can really just flip you by touching your hands alone). I'm using Daniel as an example but here's what it looks like. So him grabbing his head and flipping him to slam him down is something Johan can do. Grappling + Aikido may restrict Brad to the ground (Class 5 vs Class 5). I'm not sure what Brad's go to for when grappled, but Johan would definitely gouge his eyes if he could.

If Brad gets grappled he can use the fire so that's probably a really bad idea.

Are the fire attacks based on movement? Since they do require charging and headbutt.

He can do that with both his arms chopped off at the shoulder, so, IDK

The locket thing not resisting fear is gonna be helpful with Johan making him afraid for a bit. Also Johan would be smart enough to snatch any items or weapons away.

I mean I feel like that's most people, nobody sees a guy pull out a molotov and just lets him light it. Still pretty handy to have.

 

[DivineAura44]

With the attack being a kamehameha attack, I question who wouldn't dodge that. I think it'll definitely cook Johan, but that's if it hits and Johan has always been kinda a fast reacting boi with both instincts and Analytics.

I really doubt this, it's not based on the speed of the attack. If a fire kamehameha came at me from say 10 feet away at punching speed, it'd be easily dodgeable no doubt. But I would likely be frozen in shock alone and that would have me get burnt to a crisp. And I don't think Johan's analytics is gonna allow him to predict a fire kamehameha no matter how good it is. I do think that if Johan dodges even just one of them, he has a good shot of winning because it doesn't take long for him to adapt.

 

[DivineAura44]

Important question now that I think about it, would Johan start in UI or does he start in base?