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The result is incon, he's still voting for Nero anyway
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7-B Brackets Round 1
- Thread starter Dargoo_Faust
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I believe we're in a sort of grace for inconclusive, which would end when either end gets a three vote lead on the other, starting a grace for that person.
Jackythejack
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Is it three I thought it was two huh.
if enough people switch from Nero to inconclusive does Squalo technically get the lead
if enough people switch from Nero to inconclusive does Squalo technically get the lead
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I mean, technically, yes. Though, the same thing can happen with Squalo, too.
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You don't need to vote incon if the votes are above 7 but no one has a 3 vote lead. If it stays like that for a day it gets marked as incon.
Jackythejack
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''then the tourney is ruined gosh darn it Dargoo you randomizes it wrong''
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So let me see: Nero main advantage is Spatial Slicing, an attack that makes distance between its opponent and him futile and possibly allows him to cut through matter; makes him capable to cut through space makes Squalo's forcefields useless (unless I miss something). Furthermore, Nero has superior regen.
Mienwhile Squalo possesses superior skill (I heard) and AoE attacks, but I haven't read (mostly cuz lazy) more about him. So I'm inclined to vote for Nero at the time.
Mienwhile Squalo possesses superior skill (I heard) and AoE attacks, but I haven't read (mostly cuz lazy) more about him. So I'm inclined to vote for Nero at the time.
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, an attack that makes distance between its opponent and him futile
^^This definitely hasn't been brought up through this entire argument. Does this make it some kind of teleporting attack or something?
I was under the impression it was just a possibly durability negating sword beam.
^^This definitely hasn't been brought up through this entire argument. Does this make it some kind of teleporting attack or something?
I was under the impression it was just a possibly durability negating sword beam.
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Nero - 9 (Ovens, Rebuble, TISS, Schnee, Xtasy, Wright, SSBXeno, John, Anton)
Squalo - 9 (Litentric, Starter, Yung, Jacky, Rot, Velox, Dragon, Xanx, Phoenixstorm)
Inconclusive - 1 (Overlord)
Squalo - 9 (Litentric, Starter, Yung, Jacky, Rot, Velox, Dragon, Xanx, Phoenixstorm)
Inconclusive - 1 (Overlord)
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Lol no, Yamato does not act like The Hand or something
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Yeah, I don't know why that's come up a lot in the Nero arguments. The sword beams don't have the same properties from what I'm aware of too.RebubleUselet said:
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Hm? Only Antoniofer said that, and he clearly made a mistake, none of the votes for Nero prior were based on thatDargoo Faust said:
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.... Maybe I confusing it with another guy that do that. Who is the one that do that then?
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Probably this oneAntoniofer said:
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The sword beams don't have the same properties from what I'm aware of too.
If this is the case, then this leans much more in Squalo's favor imo....than before at least.
If sword beams also negate durability, I'm still voting Squalo, but the battle is more inconclusive than anything tbh.
If this is the case, then this leans much more in Squalo's favor imo....than before at least.
If sword beams also negate durability, I'm still voting Squalo, but the battle is more inconclusive than anything tbh.
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Actually, they do (very likely) ignore durability as well, since Dante & Vergil are capable of performing similar techniques (which are a part of Yamato's power set, not the individual characters).
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Oh right, is Vergil the one that make Spatial Slicing. I was sure someone brought up spatial hax in this discussion...
So if regen is the only power that come as advantage, I guess Squalio is leading to win; not sure, what other thing has Nero?
So if regen is the only power that come as advantage, I guess Squalio is leading to win; not sure, what other thing has Nero?
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Okayasu NeromuraRebubleUselet said:
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Nero - 9 (Ovens, Rebuble, TISS, Schnee, Xtasy, Wright, SSBXeno, John, Anton)
Squalo - 10 (Litentric, Starter, Yung, Jacky, Rot, Velox, Dragon, Xanx, Phoenixstorm, Gyro)
Inconclusive - 1 (Overlord)
Squalo - 10 (Litentric, Starter, Yung, Jacky, Rot, Velox, Dragon, Xanx, Phoenixstorm, Gyro)
Inconclusive - 1 (Overlord)
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This is actually hilarious.
@Schnee
I think Yung answered for me. But when I said block the blade with his, I was assuming that he wouldn't position his body directly behind the blade such that he would be cut because no martial artist ever does that. It's a basic principle to attack the center line while keeping the majority of your body off of it yourself in many art forms. Though this particularly applies to many weapons for there can easily be much clashing involved and weapons tend to deal more damage than any open hand or foot striking technique. Apologies. I should've explained what I meant.
@Schnee
I think Yung answered for me. But when I said block the blade with his, I was assuming that he wouldn't position his body directly behind the blade such that he would be cut because no martial artist ever does that. It's a basic principle to attack the center line while keeping the majority of your body off of it yourself in many art forms. Though this particularly applies to many weapons for there can easily be much clashing involved and weapons tend to deal more damage than any open hand or foot striking technique. Apologies. I should've explained what I meant.
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Switching to Squalo.
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I mean, if the match is this inconclusive, why not add it as such and make the progression in the brackets with some other criteria? Otherwise wouldn't it be forcing a result instead?
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Nero - 8 (Ovens, Rebuble, TISS, Schnee, Xtasy, Wright, John, Anton)
Squalo - 11 (Litentric, Starter, Yung, Jacky, Rot, Velox, Dragon, Xanx, Phoenixstorm, Gyro, SSBXeno)
Inconclusive - 1 (Overlord)
Grace has started in Squalo's favor.
Squalo - 11 (Litentric, Starter, Yung, Jacky, Rot, Velox, Dragon, Xanx, Phoenixstorm, Gyro, SSBXeno)
Inconclusive - 1 (Overlord)
Grace has started in Squalo's favor.
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I agree with Zark. Flipping a coin works. I think that had to be done sometime in the last set of brackets for one reason or another.
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I mean, I've already said that I was fine with it being Inconclusive.
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Why is it grace? There's still one inconclusive which makes him 1 vote away to grace
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So, does the next match start after the grace? Assuming that the rule aboit inconclusives is real.
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I mean, as of right now Squalo is winning but I won't post the next match unless I'm certain this one is done.Antoniofer said:
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<Checks OP
Dargoo.....That's the Reboot games storm....
Dargoo.....That's the Reboot games storm....
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So does that means that Nero is actually baseline since the calc only apply to DmC?
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WhatSchnee One said:
That's the Original Series, not the reboot.
Nero just scales well above it.
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Oh that's a reboot for the calc nvm
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Wait no I was right
That storm was for the Reboot DmC lol
That storm was for the Reboot DmC lol
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No?
It's for the original series. It's directly linked on Nero's page and you can see OS Dante in the image.
It's for the original series. It's directly linked on Nero's page and you can see OS Dante in the image.
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The first one is the DMC4 Calc
The one that says "Reboot" is the 9 megaton storm
The video for reference is even the Dante vs Vergil fight at the end of the DMC Reboot.
Nero is>>>6.0 Megatons so he's 7B
9 megatons is for the reboot
There are two calcs for two games in that blog
The one that says "Reboot" is the 9 megaton storm
The video for reference is even the Dante vs Vergil fight at the end of the DMC Reboot.
Nero is>>>6.0 Megatons so he's 7B
9 megatons is for the reboot
There are two calcs for two games in that blog
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As I pointed before, if Yamato do not cut distance nor ignore forcefields I'll switch the vote to Squalo; additionally, I think Squalo is at least x1.4 times and at most x5.7 stronger than Nero (don't think is taht much notable but is still an advantage).
