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The shard of the World Rune doesnt scale fully to a complete World Rune, she scales below it
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6-B upgrade for the Ascended and characters who scale to them.
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Then why is she given the full High 6-B treatment? You still haven't shown that the shard can release as much power as a full rune.
@Wokistan, I literally saw the question when I woke up, while Weekly was already applying the changes after one person's input.
@Wokistan, I literally saw the question when I woke up, while Weekly was already applying the changes after one person's input.
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Shes not, even in her profile it referes to a shard vs a full world rune
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It not just my input though other have agreed with it. I was just saying we should have it over and done with.
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Then it should be just be 7-C, possibly higher, not High 6-B. Stop dodging the point. You haven't shown why we should take a shard of a WR as High 6-B, and since Shyvana doesn't have much feats, it should have been put as higher.WeeklyBattles said:
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A shard should logically be in the High 6-C to 6-B range. I would say High 6-C likely High 6-B.
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There is no reason to assume she is tens of billions of times weaker when we already know how powerful World Runes are, on top of Jarvan needing an army of soldiers using hundreds of magic nullifying weapons in order to fight someone comparable to Shyvana
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Which is unquantified. Saying stuff doesn't make it High 6-B, especially when she doesn't show off such feats. The shard itself is unquantified and Shyvana doesn't do anything beyond 7-C, so again, why the High 6-B?
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Saying stuff is a feat in and of itself. Statements hold just as much weight as feats on this wiki.
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Which is why I said High 6-C. She still had a shard which is quantifiable to an extent.
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Unquantified and unexplained statements are meaningless. And guessing at AP, when you can leave it at a reasonable 7-C, Possibly higher/High 6-C isn't great. Because this is all just guessing that the shard is that powerful, and ignoring the fact that she has no feats on that scale even with the shard active.
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Prove that its not. The burden of proof is on you here when Jarvan and his army had to use potent magic null to even be able to harm a character equal to Shyvana
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You're the one claiming that a shard = High 6-B, while I'm pointing out that without sufficient feats and evidence for the shard, it should just be left as higher on her profile. You keep saying stuff as if we have to blindly accept it without thinking about what it means.
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Know what? I think that 7-C, possibly High 6-C works too.
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No my dude, no one is claiming the shard is High 6-B
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You literally edited that in her profile before changing it while debating.WeeklyBattles said:
Attack Potency: Large Country level (Houses a shard of a World Rune, which is this powerful, within her body, and killed her mother who also housed a World Rune shard)
This isn't claiming that a shard is High 6-B? When there is a reasonable option of just adding a Possibly higher/High 6-C to her profile?
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Yes, that is not claiming the shard is High 6-B
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She should be put as superior to Jarvan, not comparable. She solokilled the dragon while he couldn't.
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For once we agree on something
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You upgraded the profile to High 6-B and you just changed it back rn
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That was, given that everything else had a High 6-B rating. Please don't lie or mislead about minor stuff. If you just said you thought it was High 6-B before then it's fine.WeeklyBattles said:
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Shyvana never scaled fully to the High 6-B feat due to holding only a shard of it. This is not lying or misleading. This is the truth.
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She was still put as High 6-B before you changed stuff while debating. Acting as if she wasn't meant to be High 6-B is pretty much denying your own edits, which anyone can see if they click on the page.
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She was meant to be High 6-B, she was not meant to scale fully to the feat which the wording on her page explained
Your accusations are extremely uncalled for and i'd appreciate it if you stopped immediately
Your accusations are extremely uncalled for and i'd appreciate it if you stopped immediately
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This is turning into a massive argument for no good reason, we have reached a consensus.
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Then clarifying or asking for more thoughts should have been done instead of straight away assuming everone agreed. Either way, I shouldn't have to ask for evidence and give alternate ratings while you continually edit the profile in the other tab.
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Everyone did agree, youre the only one who didnt
You didnt ask for evidence, you just said no and then ignored people when you were asked to bring evidence to support your claims
You didnt ask for evidence, you just said no and then ignored people when you were asked to bring evidence to support your claims
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People agreeing without thinking just to finish stuff isn't great. Especially when the person proposing stuff isn't actually using proper logic or analysis and is very willing to rush through stuff only to go back and edit when unable to answer why he made those changes properly.
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We also didn't agree on Vlad changes as well Rocker.
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There is literally no point in continuing this... cmon.
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What? Vladimir changes were in dispute, as you can see by a thread on Weekly's wall. Going in to change it just to finish the thread isn't good revision.
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Oh, I actually did not see that. That explains why he did not change it. I thought he just forgot, my bad.
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So what are the issues with his scaling? He killed a Darkin. So I thought it would be straight forward.
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@Rocker There are no issues, Regis just disagrees with the changes
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As for Vlad, he was changed earlier by Weekly, but I was discusing it before my break.
Right now I think only his AP/hax with magic should scale. He has has no real feats or showings for his physical stats and he can always use Regenerationn to heal himself from any damage.
Right now I think only his AP/hax with magic should scale. He has has no real feats or showings for his physical stats and he can always use Regenerationn to heal himself from any damage.
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@Regis Im going to be blunt here, either give ANY shred of evidence to support any of your claims or stop responding to this thread. At this point youre not contributing anything to this revision other than antagonizing people who disagree with you.
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Give any proof of this. Anything. Otherwise youre just speculating.RegisNex1232 said:
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His master had the same power as him so he definitely should scale with durability. Since the blood manipulation would counter Low-mid.
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And he absorbed his master's powers so his physicals altogether should be the same as his masters.
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You are extrapolating everything based off this:
Unknown to all but Vladimir himself, it was he who struck the killing blow. Scarred, blinded, driven mad by the radiance of a darkin's undoing, he absorbed enough power to renew flesh that was never meant to last beyond a mortal lifespan.
Knowing that Vlad was a promising hemomancer, who had personally learnt from a Darkin, I don't think it is too farfetched to say that his magic was used as a killing blow, which would leave his other stats as they were before. As for absorption raising all stats, that is on you to prove Weekly, when it could just be his own power that is rising.
Unknown to all but Vladimir himself, it was he who struck the killing blow. Scarred, blinded, driven mad by the radiance of a darkin's undoing, he absorbed enough power to renew flesh that was never meant to last beyond a mortal lifespan.
Knowing that Vlad was a promising hemomancer, who had personally learnt from a Darkin, I don't think it is too farfetched to say that his magic was used as a killing blow, which would leave his other stats as they were before. As for absorption raising all stats, that is on you to prove Weekly, when it could just be his own power that is rising.
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