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6-B upgrade for the Ascended and characters who scale to them.

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Actually that reminds me, with the revisions to the storm calcs can you calc Volibear and Ornn's storm that stretched across 20 horizons?
 
But yeah, Ornn, Volibear, Anivia, Aatrox, Rhaast, Varus, Lissandra, Nasus, Renekton, Azir, Xerath, Pantheon, Leona, Diana, Taric, Morgana, Kayle, Brand, Ryze, Shyvana, Vladimir, Syndra, Galio (Against Magic), Braum's Shield, and Taliyah's Stone Magic should be fine to do, we'll deal with the controversial stuff
 
I think there should be a discussion about this, this upgrade is taking a while, and I remember part of that being true.
 
Orn - Via This feat, Comparable to Anivia, Fought Volibear for eight days straight, Destroying the peak of the Hearth-Home in the process and created a storm that could be seen 10 horizons away, His voice alone was able to sink multiple islands, His presence alone is able to melt True Ice, Even before he had the power of the Primordial Flame he was capable of melting icebergs with a touch and shaping the landscape of the Freljord with his casual attacks

Volibear - Comparable to Ornn

Anivia - Comparable to Ornn and Volibear, Causes a country-wide ice age by dying

Aatrox - Capable of fighting and killing Freljordian Demi-Gods and considers them weak, stated to have fought Targonian Aspects in the past

Rhaast - Comparable to Aatrox

Lissandra - Equal to Anivia in power

Nasus - Both he and Nasus fought Brand twice. Was able to fight Xerath for a short time alongside Renekton, and hold his own against Xerath in a one on one fight

Renekto - Both he and Nasus fought Brand twice. Stalemated Xerath alongside Nasus and then proceeded to fight against Xerath for thousands of years

Azir - At least comparable to if not superior to Nasus and Renekton, Views Vilemaw's power as that of an insect's

Xerath - Absorbed more Celestial energy than Nasus, Renekton, and Azir did during their Ascensions, and his power has grown steadily for several centuries. Sank the Shuriman capital city into the desert with just a portion of uncontrolled power and was able to overpower Nasus and Renekton at the same time upon just receiving his ascension. Fought Renekton one on one for thousands of years.

Varus - Comparable to Rhaast and Aatrox

Pantheo - Equal to Leona, Has fought Aatrox in a past incarnation and is implied to have done so multiple times

Leona - Equal to Pantheon

Diana - Nearly killed Leona upon receiving her powers

Taric - Comparable to Pantheon and Leona

Morgana - As an Ascended warrior she should be comparable to the likes of Nasus, Renekto, and Pantheo, stated to have the power to match and potentially overpower Kayle

Kayle - As an Ascended warrior she should be comparable to the likes of Nasus, Renekto, and Pantheo

Brand - Is a living World Rune, which is this powerful accidentally. Fought Nasus and Renekto on two separate occasions. Able to match Ryze's magic.

Ryze - His magic is powerful enough to overpower the nullifying effects of Petricite, which is potent enough to nullify the power of World Runes.

Galio (Against Magic) - Stated to be capable of nullifying the power of a World Rune

Braum Shield (Durability only) - Was built and enchanted by Ornn to be unbreakable

Shyvana - Houses a shard of a World Rune within her body, and killed her mother who also housed a World Rune shard

Taliyah (Via Earth Manip) - Her stone was able to block attacks from Xerath and is durable enough to withstand multiple blows from Nasus

Vladimir - Killed a Darkin and absorbed its power
 
WeeklyBattles said:
Orn - Via This feat, Comparable to Anivia, Fought Volibear for eight days straight, Destroying the peak of the Hearth-Home in the process and created a storm that could be seen 10 horizons away, His voice alone was able to sink multiple islands, His presence alone is able to melt True Ice, Even before he had the power of the Primordial Flame he was capable of melting icebergs with a touch and shaping the landscape of the Freljord with his casual attacks
Volibear - Comparable to Ornn

Anivia - Comparable to Ornn and Volibear, Causes a country-wide ice age by dying

Aatrox - Capable of fighting and killing Freljordian Demi-Gods and considers them weak, stated to have fought Targonian Aspects in the past

Rhaast - Comparable to Aatrox

Lissandra - Equal to Anivia in power

Nasus - Both he and Nasus fought Brand twice. Was able to fight Xerath for a short time alongside Renekton, and hold his own against Xerath in a one on one fight

Renekto - Both he and Nasus fought Brand twice. Stalemated Xerath alongside Nasus and then proceeded to fight against Xerath for thousands of years

Azir - At least comparable to if not superior to Nasus and Renekton, Views Vilemaw's power as that of an insect's

Xerath - Absorbed more Celestial energy than Nasus, Renekton, and Azir did during their Ascensions, and his power has grown steadily for several centuries. Sank the Shuriman capital city into the desert with just a portion of uncontrolled power and was able to overpower Nasus and Renekton at the same time upon just receiving his ascension. Fought Renekton one on one for thousands of years.

Varus - Comparable to Rhaast and Aatrox

Pantheo - Equal to Leona, Has fought Aatrox in a past incarnation and is implied to have done so multiple times

Leona - Equal to Pantheon

Diana - Nearly killed Leona upon receiving her powers

Taric - Comparable to Pantheon and Leona

Morgana - As an Ascended warrior she should be comparable to the likes of Nasus, Renekto, and Pantheo, stated to have the power to match and potentially overpower Kayle

Kayle - As an Ascended warrior she should be comparable to the likes of Nasus, Renekto, and Pantheo

Brand - Is a living World Rune, which is this powerful accidentally. Fought Nasus and Renekto on two separate occasions. Able to match Ryze's magic.

Ryze - His magic is powerful enough to overpower the nullifying effects of Petricite, which is potent enough to nullify the power of World Runes.

Galio (Against Magic) - Stated to be capable of nullifying the power of a World Rune

Braum Shield (Durability only) - Was built and enchanted by Ornn to be unbreakable

Shyvana - Houses a shard of a World Rune within her body, and killed her mother who also housed a World Rune shard

Taliyah (Via Earth Manip) - Her stone was able to block attacks from Xerath and is durable enough to withstand multiple blows from Nasus

Vladimir - Killed a Darkin and absorbed its power
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I agree with everything, can we update?
 
Again, True Ice is something you still haven't shown to be 6-B, and going by that Liss doesn't have much to show that she's = Anivia.

Shyvana is not great, since you haven't shown that a shard =/= a full WR.

Kayle and Morgana should be left alone until their update for clarity.

Nasus, Renekton are weaker now so this should be for their prime.

Ryze only gets it for his magic. His durability isn't super impressive. Same goes for Taliyah and Vlad.

The Aspects are weird since they're not all like Zoe. Maybe a variable rating for Pantheon, and Leona, Diana and Taric get a "can possibly be up to 6-B based on how much power they gain from their Aspects"? Same might apply to the Darkin.
 
Its created by Anivia, its High 6-B, this is an inarguable fact. Liss is an iceborn, she has the power to force Anivia's influence out of True Ice, and Anivia sees her as a threat, yes she is equal to Anivia.

She wouldnt scale to the full feat she'd scale below it.

Agreed

Nothing implies theyre any weaker.

Agreed on Ryze and Taliyah but Vlad scales physically.

Zoe didnt perform the high 6-B feat and she's stated by the devs to be a massive outlier for how powerful Aspects are. The Aspects and Darkin get full scaling.
 
Zero sources =/= inarguable fact.

Which is what?

Nasus himself notes in Bloodline that he's gotten weaker.

Why should Vlad scale physically? He's a mage like the other two.

Still no proof.
 
Here are your sources. Now stop being so nitpicky i am not going to put up with it tonight.

Why would Nasus be any weaker? He wasnt depowered by anything

Because Darking are High 6-B physically, which Vlad absorbed the power of.

What proof do you want my dude? The proof that the Aspects and the Darkin scale to each other physically?
 
Nice try, but stil no evidence. Saying it doesn't make it without reasoning.

Age? You can go look it up in Bloodline:

"But it wasn't enough. It could never be enough. The last time they had fought, Nasus and Renekton had been at the height of their powers. Now Nasus was a shadow of his former glory, and Xerath's power had been growing for centuries."

Absorption =/= gaining physical stats unless proven to be so.

The proof that the current mortal Aspects are anywhere near that power, when not empowered by the Targonians.
 
>Posts Evidence

>Nah no evidence try again

And this is why you piss me off Regis. Youre so god damn uncooperative that its honestly unbelievable. These upgrades go against your idea of what the verse should be and despite the overwhelming evidence supporting it youre not even going to bother to try to work with anyone who has a differing opinion and just wave your hand at anything that is given to you. So fine, dont bother to look. The evidence is there. The evidence supports the scaling. Deal with it.

Ascendants dont age my dude. Xerath growing in power =/= Nasus getting weaker.

Actually yes it is, you have to prove its not if you want to argue against it.

Aspects have never been empowered by Targonians, where are you getting that idea?
 
There is no evidence other than your say-so that because Anivia makes True Ice, Liss can use Dark Ice, therefore Liss = Anivia. Again, actual evidence and reasoning would be nice to have rather than half-baked logical chains.

You asked why, I gave a possible reason. Either way he's still weaker then before.

The onus is on you to show that Vlad got some physical benefits along with the blood magic.
 
I mean the only one against it is Regis but he hasnt given any real explanation as to why and Lotus already applied some of them so...
 
Also we didn't agree on Shyvana changes.

Since when is a shard of a World Rune = to a full World Rune? You still haven't proven that.
 
Well regis if you take a break people are allowed to do things without your presence.

Feel free to make your own CRT to downgrade everything, or just argue on this one if you want, but the former would probably end up better in terms of viewership.
 
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