6-B upgrade for the Ascended and characters who scale to them.

[DragonEmperor23]

@Dragon would you like links to his lore? He's actually very well writte

Yes, ty

 

[RegisNex1232]

If you want to ignore context then sure that implication is there. It quickly disappears when you realise that Vlad was nowhere near a Darkin's physical peer prior to the killing, making it very unlikely that he would use a weapon instead of magic.

 

[Rocker1189]

Except Vlad has been learning from the Darkin for years I would not be surprised if he was experimented on considering what he said about his Darking master being pretty sadistic. Also blood magic could be used to increase your physical abilities.

 

[RegisNex1232]

Still requires more assumptions than "a magic user using pwerful magic". Years of possible experimentation and a possible usage for blood magic is somehow more believable than Vlad just using his blood magic on the Darkin?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

It requires no assumptions if you actually read and see that it makes no mention of him using magic until after he had already killed the Darkin

 

[RegisNex1232]

Assuming that he used a weapon is an assumption, even if it's unlikely that he did given that he actually has magic to use. As is assumming he only used it after killing a Darkin. Along with 6-B Vlad being a thing prior to the killing as Vlad is never said to have been a physical peer to a Darkin. Don't try to pretend otherwise please.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Regis, you have yet to give any actual solid proof as to why he shouldnt scale. Your entire argument basically boils down to 'stop lying he's doesnt scale dont be ridiculous'

 

[RegisNex1232]

Regis, you have yet to give any actual solid proof as to why he shouldnt scale. Your entire argument basically boils down to 'stop lying he's doesnt scale dont be ridiculous'

Are you blind? Did you miss this post? Where it says how Vlad took in "a measure" of the Darkin's full power?

And your argument basically boils down to "He killed it with a weapon despite not being strong enough physically and having strong magic, which he then only uses later." Because apparently you think Vlad can't kill a Darkin with magic. You have shown nothing but your own interpretations of a few lines of text to pretend that Vlad scales, without any logic or reason.

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/2358895?useskin=oasis#179

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Yeah he took it AFTER he killed the Darkin.

You are the only one in this thread interpreting 'Vlad struck the Darkin down and then used his magic to absorb his power' as 'Vlad killed the Darkin with magic'

 

[RegisNex1232]

Yeah he took it AFTER he killed the Darkin.

You are the only one in this thread interpreting 'Vlad struck the Darkin down and then used his magic to absorb his power' as 'Vlad killed the Darkin with magic'

Still missing the point again. Taking in a measure =/= taking all the power which would indicate that Vlad, while powerful, didn't manage to get all of the Darkin's power.

I am interpreting the struck down part as something he does with magic, and the fact that you seem to find it ridiculous that Vlad would use magic to kill, and not just absorb power is frankly astonishing. Nothing indicates that prior to the killing Vlad was strong enough physically to kill a Darkin. Even Jax needed a lot of help to take down Ascendants. Yet you, for some reason are willing to accept this just for the rating and without using any logic.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

@Regis If someone (Vlad in this case) "strikes down" someone it implies a physical blow. If it was magic, it would be written as "Vlad's magic" striking whoever down, and in this case the author would be talking about magic, not Vlad. Unless this Vlad dude can channel magic with his physical blows like Star Wars characters using the Force. If you have a book that the author describes a magic attack as "Character A strikes Character B down", show us.

 

[RegisNex1232]

Again, vagueness of an action doesn't imply anything. Ignoring the context given to simply go to physical force as the answer, when nothing supports it is illogical. The context given is a powerful but physically human mage, who turns on his demonic master and ends up absobing some of his power. Nowhere in the text is it suggested that Vlad was that physically capable, and even Jax, who has all sorts of feats and accolades needed help to pull of something similar. Unless you or Weekly have any actual proof tgat Vlad was that capable physically prior to the killing then there is no reason to accept such a thing.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Regis, youre the one who needs to provide proof to disprove it, something you have yet to do in 250+ replies on this thread. If you are so certain that youre correct, all you have to do is post the evidence that backs up why you think so. Its really not that difficult.

Unless you do that all that is being accomplished here is you repeating yourself with nothing to back you up against everyone else in this thread who agrees with the scaling. Saying something is wrong with nothing to back up why you said it is as good as saying its wrong 'because you said so'.

 

[RegisNex1232]

You haven't proven anything so far. All you've given are vague lines and specific interpretations without any hard evidence to support Vlad scaling physically and not just his magic, which actually has more justificatio. Repeatedly pointing out the flaws in your assumptions and how you don't have hard evidence somehow means I haven't disproven anything. Right.

Says the person vehemently insisting he scales physically because of two vague words and refuses to accept any other possibilities. You've been repeating this line of thought all the time, to the point where you hurriedly made changes before any conclusions simply becuase you thought you were correct.