5-A Hax World Cup: Birdon VS Emu Hojo (R1 G3 F1)

[00potato]

But he never shown mind hax reistance on the required level. The phrase low 2-C mind hax is kinda misleading anyway as we measure it in number of people effected, not tiering. Zombie Chronicle and Charm are not anywhere near the number of people effected by the hax that freind hearts overpowered. Also He once birding realizes Emu can't hurt him he will probably just take it easy until Emu either runs away or tired out.

 

[Greenshifter]

00potato is right in the regard that we measure the amount of people affected but I'm assuming we mean Kuroto Dan can create universal ranged mindhax and that Emu resists?

Emu has equal or superior stamina to Birdon, running away is not allowed per SBA and they either eat while they fight or collapse from hunger and sleep at about the same time, in other words incon.

 

[00potato]

But Birdon wouldn't need to use his stamina as much due to his durability being too high for Emu to do anything. He could just hover and laugh at Emu and be fine.

 

[Greenshifter]

Birdon can not hurt Emu either so Emu could just do the same from the ground, also flying probably takes more energy than standing on the ground so Emu actually has the high ground.

 

[00potato]

Birdon can not hurt Emu either so Emu could just do the same from the ground, also flying probably takes more energy than standing on the ground so Emu actually has the high ground. </div>

Ok good point, so if freind hearts don't work (they probably will though.) incon.

 

[Jamesthetaker]

What stop Emu from just keep punching him to death. I mean, the AP gap isn't that large for him to hurt Birdon.

 

[Greenshifter]

There is an AP gap of 575.6 times. That ain't gonna fly. It'd be like using a wooden stick against a human.

 

[Nicetoderp]

Emu still have some option in Game Area Emu chug Sleep Emergy Item at Birdon or shove it into him, either work.

There's also The End, but the chance of it working on Birdon is not high since it is pretty featless.

 

[Greenshifter]

How long does sleep work and yeah End probably works, we're talking universal range mindhax resistance and not just resistance to mindhax affecting a low 2-C right?

 

[Psychomaster35]

Bump

 

[Nicetoderp]

How long does sleep work and yeah End probably works, we're talking universal range mindhax resistance and not just resistance to mindhax affecting a low 2-C right?

For Emu's immunity, as long as the hax isnt too exotic (plot manip, fate manip, etc.etc.) and is at Low 2-C or lower level, it shouldnt work.

 

[Greenshifter]

Mindhax works via the amount of people it affects, not the power you guys realize that right? Mindhaxing Goku is as impressive as mindhaxing Robbie Rotten, 1 person that is.

 

[Nicetoderp]

The mind has can goes up to Low 2-C.

Zombie Chronicle already brainwashed half of the Earth population into a mindless zombie upon his first activation and he could amplify any ability that he grant himself to Low 2-C range as well given how he is able to create CoSmiC Chronicle (his Low 2-C) reality warp.

 

[00potato]

Only half the Earth isn't any where near where freind hearts scale to. Range doesn't really equal equal potency either. So he just gets freinded.

 

[Greenshifter]

Well if there are no aliens in Emu's verse then I guess you're right but if there are then Emu resist.

 

[00potato]

But even by his own admission his best feat is half earth's population. You again just assume that his resistance to two very different things are equal despite no showings of such.

 

[Greenshifter]

Hmm yeah Zombification thingy is biological manipulation and not empathic manipulation. Those 2 probably work differently.

 

[Psychomaster35]

Bump

 

[Genericstickman]

I'm pretty sure Friend Hearts scale to affecting characters who resisted tier 3 mindhax

 

[Nicetoderp]

And again, mind manipulation is considered a debuff in Ex-Aid with Confused and Chaos as basis.

Genm could easily scale thoes up to Low 2-C if he so desire, and the reason he doesn't brainwashed the entire universe because he's a dick and his grand plan isnt to brainwash earth.

And yes, aliens do exist in KR-verse with the like of [Evolto] from Blood Tribe and [Megahex] exist.

Emu still have teleportaion and Invis to tag Birdon with Sleep or The End.

 

[00potato]

Gemn being able to is an assumption, we have been over this. He has no mind hax feats on this level so you just have to say that he can. Teleportation won't help at all as most Kirby bosses do that.

 

[Psychomaster35]

Bump

 

[Akreious]

Actually, it doesn't need to be a debuff at all.

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So basically Emu isn't technically "resisting". Mindhaxing him would be the equivalent of mindhaxing thin air; you can't do it. He's separated from the Game Area (The battlefield in this case).

So no, Emu doesn't need a feat of mindhax since Hyper Muteki completely bypasses all of that by simply not being affected in the first place rather than using sheer resistance.

 

[James_Plays_4_Games]

Wait... if both characters have all their equiptment, then Birdon can use the Dream Rod. That's unbalanced because Birdon can just summon a Dream Friend and get an advantage.

 

[00potato]

I mean Emu has low2-C Invul to damage according to his debaters (but they just randomly changed their definition of his powers on a whim and I am unsure is he ever survived tier 2 attacks before.) also what is "sparking shoulder." It seems like a different thing then what was described previously.

 

[Akreious]

I mean Emu has low2-C Invul to damage according to his debaters (but they just randomly changed their definition of his powers on a whim and I am unsure is he ever survived tier 2 attacks before.) also what is "sparking shoulder." It seems like a different thing then what was described previously.

Sparkling Shoulder is literally what it sounds like. It's the Shoulder pads on Emu when he's in Hyper Muteki. I provided the source for it.

Also they never changed the definition of his powers. They have pretty much been consistent throughout, it's just you're having trouble interpreting it.

As for the whole Low 2-C thing- Level Billion Genm has control of all physics and laws in the Universe (and is Low 2-C for it) and in the Novel, if Emu ever reached Hyper Muteki form, Genm would NEVER win the fight. There's also the fact that in the movie, 2 scientists were planning on surviving the erasure of 2 worlds with Hyper Muteki's power; at least Low 2-C.

 

[00potato]

I mistook the shoulder pad for the other invuln, I think, are they different things? Also if the shoulder is different, is it activated or passive?

 

[Akreious]

I mistook the shoulder pad for the other invuln, I think, are they different things? Also if the shoulder is different, is it activated or passive?

Yeah they're different things. Invulnerability is the ability to take no damage (Which is maintained via the Gashat proper rather than any specific armour piece. The armour just maintains the effect so there's no 10 second time limit).

The Shoulder is different than that since it's solely from an armour piece and not from the invincibility itself.

It's also almost definitely passive since if it's activated, Genm could use any sort of esoteric abilities on Emu before he's able to deploy the field which directly contradicts Genm saying that he'd never win against Hyper Muteki Ex-Aid.

 

[Psychomaster35]

Bump

 

[Greenshifter]

So anyways what is this Lovelica thing and can Dan make this into an attack with low 2-C range?

 

[Jamesthetaker]

Basically, any form of attacks toward Hyper Muteki are useless, even Lovelica mind control or Confusion energy item which counted as debuff.

He pretty much can consider that he could granted himself with Low 2-C abilities.

 

[Greenshifter]

Hmm one problem with this, didn't Dan only amplify abilities that HE already has to a low 2-C, if not that should be noted on his page that he can grant himself other people's abilities as well.

 

[Jamesthetaker]

He already has Power Bestowal (Can create any game and grant himself new powers with his thoughts) and Statistics Amplification (Can freely set his own physical statistics)

 

[Greenshifter]

Just saw Power Bestowal, so Dan can create any power for himself that has been shown in the show before on a low 2-C level then?

 

[Jamesthetaker]

Actually, no. That power only came in after he become Genm Level Billion.

But on the other side, he created most of the Gashats, Game Driver and even technologys that don't even appear on the main series due to having "Godly Talent".

 

[Greenshifter]

As a cold-hearted genius he might not care or think about empathic manipulation as a means to defeat Emu then, who programmed the confusion item btw?

 

[Akreious]

Empathetic manipulation falls under the banner of mind manipulation.

He programmed the confusion item; pretty much everything was programmed by him.

 

[Greenshifter]

All right then this is a stomp since Birdon has no wincons.

 

[00potato]

Do you mean low2-c ran or can effect everyone in the universe?

 

[Greenshifter]

Same range as his reality warping which is low 2-C and can thus affect everything and everyone in the universe and yes they also have aliens.