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He can take out technology based enemies with a specific weapon, he has invisible shields to protect both Johnny and himself. He can layer those shields for extra defense. He has a lot of weapons in his backpack, he can freeze things. Isamu also has remote control robots that have the same ap and dura as himself, which he can fuse to make an even stronger robot. He also is able to stomp and one shot people who rate the same without trying, so he is <<<< the number he scales to.
Isamu is also one of the smartest people in his verse, and very analytical. He is able to make plans on the spot that will help him win fights.
Isami would start with his Underdog Men, or spamming missiles. Isamu could also just take it close with his Backpack blades, or his Energy sword.
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Moot, No technology based enemies here, How durable are they? and are they truly invisible? if they are even slightly visible then I reckon both tanjiro and sasuke would be able to sense it with their enhanced senses. Does he freeze using a projectile? If so I highly doubt thats gonna hit either sasuke or tanjiro, these guys can get dealt with pretty easily, fire ball jutsu gg or just use large scale explosives.
Tanjiro and sasuke are very analytical as well.
None of these really seem like a big deal for either tanjiro or sasuke, Underdog men gets dealt with quickly even with the same dura as isamu as they don't have the same abilities as him, missiles or any projectiles just doesn't hit unless were talking danmaku levels of spamming here. Taking it close against sasuke or tanjiro? good luck with that. Unless isamu is more skilled than tanjiro and sasuke he gets outskilled + precog-ed hard and wouldn't stand a chance in CQC.
How skilled is Sasuke and Tanjiro in their 8-B keys?
Johnny should be skilled enough to fight while blind.
Sasuke is a prodigy among prodigies and impressed kakashi hatake at like age 12, kakashi hatake who got into the anbu at a very young age and is also considering a prodigies among prodigies, tanjiro had 2 years training off rip at the beginning of the series and could fight demons who's had hundreds of years of experience.
How is Sasuke going to deal with 3 robots who scale above 1.88x Sasuke's ap and dura, CE, who scales massivly above that with his weapons, and shields that can tank all of his attacks?
Sasuke may have Genjutsu, but, assuming that it would work on Isamu (Resistance against mind manip), he still has his remote control robots, which will definitely deter Sasuke's concentration, allowing all in the genjutsu to be released.
Alright dude what, Isamu's resistance to mind manipulation isn't good and won't be enough to defend him from a sharingan genjutsu at all, he did it by willpower and he resisted it for a limited amount of time, profile even states "limited", No way the sharingan isn't bypassing that.
"Stomping those who beat him in base" is a pretty vague statement, as we don't know how strong the person Sasuke was facing is. Even with this boost, Johnny's too tanky for Sasuke, and he'll just end up outsmarting him.
So Johnny can last a few days in a fight, along with his Pain Tolerance and Elasticity, which will make him last longer, and harder to put down. Tanjiro can last a week. The stamina gap between the two isn't big. I'll give the slight edge to Tanjiro here, though stamina won't play a factor here.
Johnny isn't too tanky for sasuke, he has high low regen and toon force that prevents him from getting Ko'd. also johnny outsmarting sasuke? Not so sure about that man.
Can you send a clip of him lasting a few days? His profile stated that in a fight he lasts 6 hours before getting exhausted, all his other stamina feats weren't fighting feats (like him screaming and other shit)
Johnny's Pain Tolerance and (maybe?) Regen should cover this.
Oh my god. I'm so dumb. I meant to type in outlast, not outsmart lmao. That one's on me.
It wouldn't, High low regen isn't really anything special and pain tolerance won't help him survive. Sasuke is more skilled, smarter, faster, stronger, and can read his muscle tension to predict his next attacks
Oh, Ignore my message above then
I also forgot to mention that Isamu's invisible shields can help protect Johnny and himself from Sasuke's and Tanjiro's attacks. He can also add extra layers to the shields for extra defense.
We're also forgetting how smart/analytical Isamu is in combat. While Johnny is pretty smart in combat, he's the dumbest one here by a decent margin. Isamu can help assist Johnny in terms of intellect, so Johnny can approach the fight smarter and not be reckless.
I think a good name for this team would be "Brains and Brawn."
The shields will prevent them from attack as well right? If there was a shield in front of johnny or isamu, isamu would have to deactivate or destroy said shield to attack, if so they can't keep on barricading themselves forever if they wanna win.
To be front with you I don't really see anything in isamu's profile that makes him as smart as sasuke or tanjiro in combat, his reasoning for his rating is that "he's a very good strategist" no links, no scans, no feats.
Isamu may be caught in a Genjutsu, but then there are still his Underdog Men that can get him out.
Are they smart enough to do that? Why would they suddenly attack isamu, they won't know he's under a mind control that you can break by moving the target.
How is Tanjiro and Sasuke getting past Isamu's shields, which he can stack extra layers on for more defense?
Isamu should have a counter for the illusions, and he should be able to warn Johnny about them as well.
Isamu has many things in his arsenal to distract Tanjiro and Sasuke here.
Plus, having precog, reading muscle movements, seeing people in slow motion, and speed amps only helps you with getting more hits on your opponent. Isamu can use his shields to protect him and Johnny from the attacks, and Johnny can just... survive. In this scenario, you're at best getting a inconclusive.
They can't barricade themselves forever since they'd just end up locking themselves in one place.
1. Whats said counter, 2. how is he warning johnny about something he doesn't know himself.
No, none of what he has can distract these two, underdog men gets trashed with AoE since they dont have any unique abilities or hax, missiles and other projectiles just don't land.
it also helps with not getting hit yourself. also you are heavily overestimating how "tanky" johnny is, His regen can cover like ears and toes and minor organ damage, how's that gonna help him here? he can't just "survive", he's getting killed if he doesn't dodge.
Also, in chapter
26 of Naruto, Zabuza was able to disable Kakashi's Sharingan by covering the area with mist. Isamu can do that as well with his Poison Mist. If Zabuza was able to figure out how the Sharingan worked mid-fight, I don't see why Isamu can't, as he is called the "Psychological Pillar of the Hero Association." Isamu is also a
genius analytical fighter, which has also been proved.
And as for the Underdog Men, they can get Isamu out by harming him somehow.
Sasuke will have to deal with many remote control robots that all scale to >>1.88x Sasuke's ap and dura. The Underdog Men can also self destruct if need be, which if all of them hit Sasuke, should take him out.
What's stopping sasuke from just fire ball jutsuing the mist to make it go away? also link you sent directs to a game called hunters arena or whatever. Also thats not enough proof for isamu somehow knowing that he can disable the sharingan (which he isn't even aware of, he'd just see some weird colored eyes) by throwing out mist which has no connection whatsoever.
Why would they? are they smart enough to do that? how do they know that by harming isamu he'd be broken free from the mind control?
ain't hitting sasuke, sharingan gg.
So, what's stopping Johnny from defeating Sasuke before this happens?
Pretty hard thing to do, Sasuke is very smart, he'll catch up on johnny's tankiness early on and use it early on, sasuke is very elusive and can read his every movement.
