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Actually, yeah, if Maginaryworld has even one dream per universe, and there are infinite universes, and dreams in Sonic are universal in scope, then, I suppose that would be infinite. (I don't know or think this has any impact but it's a funny ripple effect, if so.)

thanks for the gift subs(?) Tails
 
So, with these changes...

  • Solaris gets upgraded from "2-B" to "2-B, possibly 2-A" for his attempted cosmology wipe.
  • Super Sonic, Super Shadow, and Super Silver get "possibly 2-A" added onto them for fighting Solaris. In Sonic's case, for also fighting the Time Eater.
  • Hyper Forms become "Possibly 2-A" flat out.
  • Time Eater gets upgraded from "Low 2-C, likely 2-C" to "2-B, possibly 2-A" for affecting all of space-time.
    • Classic Sonic also gets "possibly 2-A" for fighting the Time Eater.
What about Illumina and the Egg Wizard?
 
For Hyper Forms? I don't think so, because then that implies Hyper Forms have an end which can be at all inferior to Super Forms when that isn't the case in-lore. Hypers are just Master Emerald-enhanced Supers after all
thing is, if super sonic high end is just a "possibly" 2-A, then a hyper form will also be the same, with an "at least 2-B" rating, if the rating is a possible with an at least, the stronger character will have the same rating no matter how much stronger he is than the one with the possibly
 
So, with these changes...

  • Solaris gets upgraded from "2-B" to "2-B, possibly 2-A" for his attempted cosmology wipe.
  • Super Sonic, Super Shadow, and Super Silver get "possibly 2-A" added onto them for fighting Solaris. In Sonic's case, for also fighting the Time Eater.
  • Hyper Forms become "Possibly 2-A" flat out.
  • Time Eater gets upgraded from "Low 2-C, likely 2-C" to "2-B, possibly 2-A" for affecting all of space-time.
    • Classic Sonic also gets "possibly 2-A" for fighting the Time Eater.
Hyper would stay the same, we have no idea how powerful they are.
 
Hyper would stay the same, we have no idea how powerful they are.
They're more powerful than the Chaos Emeralds and that's all that really matters in terms of scaling them.
thing is, if super sonic high end is just a "possibly" 2-A, then a hyper form will also be the same, with an "at least 2-B" rating, if the rating is a possible with an at least, the stronger character will have the same rating no matter how much stronger he is than the one with the possibly
Hyper was "At least 2-B" before until the "At least" was removed due to it being deemed nonsensical, I don't think a possibly 2-A high-end would change that?
 
iirc Super Sonic could get grabbed hy the final boss in the original Sonic 3 game, was it removed in S3&K or no? I completely forgot.
 
Hyper was "At least 2-B" before until the "At least" was removed due to it being deemed nonsensical, I don't think a possibly 2-A high-end would change that?
"at least" because now there is the "possibly" 2-A, no matter how much stronger hyper is then super, if super high end is only "possibly" 2-A, then hyper would be only "possibly" 2-A along with the "at least" 2-B
 
iirc Super Sonic could get grabbed hy the final boss in the original Sonic 3 game, was it removed in S3&K or no? I completely forgot.
Big Arms, I believe? Yes. It could even deal damage to Super in the original versions, but, Origins removed that. It damages base, and doesn't affect Super.
 
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"at least" because now there is the "possibly" 2-A, no matter how much stronger hyper is then super, if super high end is only "possibly" 2-A, then hyper would be only "possibly" 2-A along with the "at least" 2-B
Yeah on second thought I think you're right, I never had a verse where I needed to think about this sort of shit 😭

So I guess Hypers get "At least 2-B, possibly 2-A" as well.
 
A bit late to respond but whatever
In the combined S3&K, only Knuckles in his story fights Big Arms anyways (dunno if that was changed with Origins)
Big Arms harming Super with the grab and slam is also removed in the combined S3&K, let alone Origins. It's also fought a point where you couldn't have gotten Hyper anyways, as it was unlocked in the zone after Launch Base
 
wait that's it?
where's the wall of text? the loopholes? the crossover scaling? the science mumbo jumbo?
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A bit late to respond but whatever
In the combined S3&K, only Knuckles in his story fights Big Arms anyways (dunno if that was changed with Origins)
Big Arms harming Super with the grab and slam is also removed in the combined S3&K, let alone Origins. It's also fought a point where you couldn't have gotten Hyper anyways, as it was unlocked in the zone after Launch Base
Can't you go back after completing the game and clap the boss as Hyper Knuckles tho
 
I've never seen this stated at all, but I can somewhat understand the point you make.

It's like the Arabian Nights or Camelot, both are books that contain an entire universe with them. Wait, wouldn't that mean burning the book makes you Universal?
T̶h̶e̶ ̶A̶r̶a̶b̶i̶a̶n̶ ̶N̶i̶g̶h̶t̶s̶ ̶c̶a̶n̶ ̶b̶e̶ ̶c̶o̶n̶s̶i̶d̶e̶r̶e̶d̶ ̶a̶ ̶m̶u̶l̶t̶i̶v̶e̶r̶s̶e̶ ̶b̶u̶t̶ ̶I̶ ̶d̶i̶g̶r̶e̶s̶s̶
 
Oh yeah, each of the Titans get the possibly 2-A treatment as well since they can fight full power Super Sonic. Though that should be a given
 
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