2-A Game Sonic CRT: "It's that easy"

[JED]

Classic has been retconned to being Sonic’s past self again. They even said that in the TailsTube

 

[Alexander]

It takes 5 years, 3 blogs, 7 threads, and a million supporters to get Pokémon to 2-A

And it took Sonic a single statement

The same would be with many other verses, I mean, it took many threads for Saitama to go from maximum ''5-C'' to literally greater than planet level.

 

[HenshinIntervention]

Classic has been retconned to being Sonic’s past self again. They even said that in the TailsTube

No he wasn't.

They basically used Many Worlds here.
I won't re explain but I just made a reply here explaining what exactly is the BS with Classic Sonic.

 

[HenshinIntervention]

Dude, this was obvious.

Here's a better way to explain
Classic Sonic /=/ Modern Sonic, but Younger Sonic looks like Classic Sonic as they are both younger Sonic.

But Classic Sonic went through Gens and did stuff Legacy Sonic never did, so this created an alternate dimension/timeline, dimensions and timelines are often used interchangeably within the franchise.

Hell this was implied a long time ago with this Jp translation from Forces I found
Forces Classic Sonic = Generations Classic Sonic
Because they are a split timeline version of Sonic's past.

Also there's already a wiki page for Classic Sonic's world here

this

 

[OculoOmnibus]

I think this is kind of jumping the gun, they just said there was possibly infinite Sonics, not infinite universes.

Anything that comes to "possibly" when it deals with VSBW Sonic scaling is a definite.

 

[omegabronic]

It takes 5 years, 3 blogs, 7 threads, and a million supporters to get Pokémon to 2-A

And it took Sonic a single statement

ain't that a b#thc? it is really that easy

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

I think this is kind of jumping the gun, they just said there was possibly infinite Sonics, not infinite universes.

This is a pretty silly point, what they meant by that is obvious given that they're talking about the multiverse in-context.

That's like saying "They just said Crisis on Infinite Earths not crisis on Infinite universes"

 

[omegabronic]

I think this is kind of jumping the gun, they just said there was possibly infinite Sonics, not infinite universes.

in reference to the multiverse

 

[Psychomaster35]

I agree with this

 

[GlaceonGamez471]

This is a pretty silly point, what they meant by that is obvious given that they're talking about the multiverse in-context.

That's like saying "They just said Crisis on Infinite Earths not crisis on Infinite universes"

Also Maginaryworld says 2-A even if it were only infinite Sonics

 

[Alexander]

Also Maginaryworld says 2-A even if it were only infinite Sonics

but as we know, if there are infinite sonics, there are other things that are infinite, like infinite living beings that dream. that means that nights into dreams would also have infinite dreams because of it.

 

[omegabronic]

considering maginary world, would it be above baseline? i am kind of confuse about what an "above baseline 2-A" even is on this site anymore

 

[TyranoDoom30]

Agreed with a possibly 2-A Key, can't believe they dropped this so casually.

 

[OculoOmnibus]

Also Maginaryworld says 2-A even if it were only infinite Sonics

Wait how is Maginaryworld 2-A? From what I know in Sonic Shuffle it's one universe where the dreams of people across the multiverse co-exist according to the manual.

I even read the Japanese manuals and scripts and I don't see how it's an infinite amount of universes in one dimension.

 

[OculoOmnibus]

Agreed with a possibly 2-A Key, can't believe they dropped this so casually.

More like definitely 2-A, the video pretty much solidifies this.

 

[Remus1998]

ok

Now I can finally update my Sonic profiles and slap a "possibly 2-A" on it

This is a pretty silly point, what they meant by that is obvious given that they're talking about the multiverse in-context.

That's like saying "They just said Crisis on Infinite Earths not crisis on Infinite universes"

Wasn't there a crisis of infinite Sonics in the Archie comics?

 

[OculoOmnibus]

Now I can finally update my Sonic profiles and slap a "possibly 2-A" on it

Wasn't there a crisis of infinite Sonics in the Archie comics?

There was a time where all the Tails' fused together to make one giant Giga Tails.

 

[Alexander]

Wait how is Maginaryworld 2-A? From what I know in Sonic Shuffle it's one universe where the dreams of people across the multiverse co-exist according to the manual.

I even read the Japanese manuals and scripts and I don't see how it's an infinite amount of universes in one dimension.

each dream is of universal size, although imaginaryworld is a separate universe, this cannot mean that it cannot be bigger, it is like a building that is much bigger on the inside than the outside.

 

[Alexander]

Now I can finally update my Sonic profiles and slap a "possibly 2-A" on it

it should be just 2-A and not ''possibly''it already is confirmed that the multiverse is real

 

[Eseseso]

Agree.

Holy shit, this was easy.

 

[Alexander]

There was a time where all the Tails' fused together to make one giant Giga Tails.

yeah,titan tails,some that inspired alot of memes about tails being overpower,or something

 

[Alexander]

Agree.

Holy shit, this was easy.

If they gave me 1 dollar for every time someone said "this was easy" in this thread, I would have more than 30

 

[omegabronic]

Wait how is Maginaryworld 2-A? From what I know in Sonic Shuffle it's one universe where the dreams of people across the multiverse co-exist according to the manual.

I even read the Japanese manuals and scripts and I don't see how it's an infinite amount of universes in one dimension.

it was accepted that each dream world is a universe

 

[OculoOmnibus]

each dream is of universal size, although imaginaryworld is a separate universe, this cannot mean that it cannot be bigger, it is like a building that is much bigger on the inside than the outside.

I've never seen this stated at all, but I can somewhat understand the point you make.

It's like the Arabian Nights or Camelot, both are books that contain an entire universe with them. Wait, wouldn't that mean burning the book makes you Universal?

 

[Alexander]

I've never seen this stated at all, but I can somewhat understand the point you make.

It's like the Arabian Nights or Camelot, both are books that contain an entire universe with them. Wait, wouldn't that mean burning the book makes you Universal?

they never tried to

 

[StekFence]

I've never seen this stated at all, but I can somewhat understand the point you make.

It's like the Arabian Nights or Camelot, both are books that contain an entire universe with them. Wait, wouldn't that mean burning the book makes you Universal?

Technically, heat ignores dura

 

[Dalesean027]

ANYWHO that vit if derailment aside I agree

 

[ShakeResounding]

So, with these changes...

• Solaris gets upgraded from "2-B" to "2-B, possibly 2-A" for his attempted cosmology wipe.

• Super Sonic, Super Shadow, and Super Silver get "possibly 2-A" added onto them for fighting Solaris. In Sonic's case, for also fighting the Time Eater.

• Hyper Forms become "Possibly 2-A" flat out.

• Time Eater gets upgraded from "Low 2-C, likely 2-C" to "2-B, possibly 2-A" for affecting all of space-time.
  • Classic Sonic also gets "possibly 2-A" for fighting the Time Eater.

 

[OculoOmnibus]

Tails states the Time Eater affected all of space-time

I think this is hyperbole, since this could just be referring to the main Sonic dimension/dimensions.

 

[SilentLyfe]

Looks good.

 

[Tarang123]

Not very knowledgeable on the games, but this looks good to me.

 

[MysticMania]

I'm slightly iffy on this. Tails's wording isn't a hard confirmation, due to the usage of "could" in regards to there being infinite Sonics, but, Amy also does say he's been doing research into why there's been more than one Sonic running around, and in the next question, he goes even further into that, which is where we get his statement. He does say, though, "Within the infinite possibilities of space...". So, although I'm not entirely sold, really, I'll say that I agree. I do feel the intent of what he says, and how he says it, does indicate an infinite multiverse.

 

[omegabronic]

So, with these changes...

• Solaris gets upgraded from "2-B" to "2-B, possibly 2-A" for his attempted cosmology wipe.
• Super Sonic, Super Shadow, and Super Silver get "possibly 2-A" added onto them for fighting Solaris. In Sonic's case, for also fighting the Time Eater.
• Hyper Forms become "Possibly 2-A" flat out.
• Time Eater gets upgraded from "Low 2-C, likely 2-C" to "2-B, possibly 2-A" for affecting all of space-time.
  • Classic Sonic also gets "possibly 2-A" for fighting the Time Eater.

flat out? the 2-B would still be there, no?

 

[Alexander]

I think this is hyperbole, since this could just be referring to the main Sonic dimension/dimensions.

space-time can encompass a multiverse, and again a hyperbole is an exaggeration.

 

[GlaceonGamez471]

I'm slightly iffy on this. Tails's wording isn't a hard confirmation, due to the usage of "could" in regards to there being infinite Sonics, but, Amy also does say he's been doing research into why there's been more than one Sonic running around, and in the next question, he goes even further into that, which is where we get his statement. He does say, though, "Within the infinite possibilities of space...". So, although I'm not entirely sold, really, I'll say that I agree. I do feel the intent of what he says, and how he says it, does indicate an infinite multiverse.

Hence why this CRT is shooting for "possibly 2-A", rather than flat out

 

[MysticMania]

This would make Maginaryworld infinite or ad-infinitum as well, I think...? I could absolutely be thinking about this from the wrong direction, but since Maginaryworld is officially described as having all dreams from all universes, and there are infinite universes, would that place its "dream count" in either 'ad-infinumitity' or infinity, perhaps? I'm sorry if this makes, like, no sense

 

[JJSliderman]

All of space time meaning, the entire multiverse for Time Eater, is smthn I kind of doubt, considering all the stuff in White Space is purely elements that the mainline Sonic has dealt with.

 

[Kirbonic_Pikmin]

Can’t say I expected a ******* TailsTube episode to be what gives 2A Sonic evidence, I was expecting Sonic Prime to be what would do it lol.

This seems fine though, they kinda pretty blatantly say Time Eater affected the entire spacetime continuum which contains possibily infinite realities/universes. I would definitely keep this as a possibly rating though.

That scan someone posted from the Sonic Encyclospeedia is a good backing for Time Eater as well. Any arguments against Time Eater not scaling to the cosmology are kinda dead in the water now.

 

[Alexander]

All of space time meaning, the entire multiverse for Time Eater, is smthn I kind of doubt, considering all the stuff in White Space is purely elements that the mainline Sonic has dealt with.

Why would they show an infinite number of things? If you know that that would be impossible if it wasn't in lore.

 

[ShakeResounding]

flat out? the 2-B would still be there, no?

For Hyper Forms? I don't think so, because then that implies Hyper Forms have an end which can be at all inferior to Super Forms when that isn't the case in-lore. Hypers are just Master Emerald-enhanced Supers after all

I'm sorry if this makes, like, no sense

Dealing with infinities in a nutshell