• This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact Antvasima if you encounter any problems.

    For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here.
  • We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.

    Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.

    Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page.
  • Please click here for information about a large petition to help children in need.


  1. StrymULTRA

    Pokémon God Tiers: Several revisions

    It's a while since I worked on Pokémon here, and I realized I did something not that good about the God Tiers, so I'll list them all. 2-B should just be 2-A Yeah... the reason is kinda simple. 2-A comes from the premise that "space" in Pokémon terminology means also the parallel universes, and...
  2. God tier pokemon upgrade

    First of all, I want to thank This page entitled "pokemon called god" for providing such a detailed explanation and being a reference for this thread. ______________________________________ 𝟭. 𝗚𝗶𝗿𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗮 𝗡𝗼𝗻 𝗘𝘅𝗶𝘀𝘁𝗲𝗻𝗰𝗲 First of all Distortion world is a anti matter world not a anti matter real life...
  3. TheGatememer

    Why do the Lake Trio (Pokemon) have Nigh-Omnipresence?

    Didn't see any justification, so I'm just wondering what the reason is.
  4. Enryu_The_Red_Tower

    Question about Pokémon God Tiers

    Shouldn't the True Forms of Arceus, the Creation Trio and the Lake Trio have Incorporeality? I mean, the description of their True Forms of this fits that power perfectly: "Incorporeal (or Non-Corporeal) beings are those who have no true physical form. Though they may have physical avatars or...
  5. StrymULTRA

    Pokemon Tier 2 Hax Additions

    It was bound to come but here we are, with a pretty important Pokémon Tier 2 Hax CRT. Since the list to things to add is hella l o n g, I'll put this Google Doc, which I invite you to read really carefully before commenting here. Also here are the revised profiles, which are also an huge...
  6. PlozAlcachaz

    2-A Pokémon: It Is Time

    Well, we did say it would come, eventually. Pokémon Mystery Dungeon Is Canon Again Mystery Dungeon's canonicity is more of a side thing, but it's mandatory for the Magnagate argument. I honestly don't see why we removed this at all from the canon; I'm guessing it's because we lack a full-out...
  7. Mesprit vs Frisk

    Both Bloodlusted Both at their Peak Mesprit: 1 (Chaos Jester25) Frisk: 0
  8. Everything12

    Rimuru vs Mesprit

    As far as I know this has never been done before and I'm interested in the results. SBA Strongest Keys Rimuru: Mesprit: Inconclusive:
  9. Assaltwaffle

    A Pokemon 2-B that isn't the CT vs A Cthulu Clock

    The Pokemon of Emotio flies into a giant squid clock. Jas doesn't really like that. Battle ensues. Standard Battle Assumptions I don't even think I need to equalize speed this time, too. Jas: 0 Mesprit: 0 Inconclusive: 0
  10. BlackPAIN99

    Fu vs Mesprit

    Heroes Fu vs Mesprit Speed Equalised
  11. ProfessorKukui4Life

    HUGGE Lake Trio hax upgrade

    One small thing im surprised wasnt added. Besides destroying a space-time singularity, shouldn't the Lake Trio have some level of Space-Time manipulation? Through the red chain they can bind and connect Time and Space (In the anime they literally do this via portals) and since all 3 of them...
  12. NeoZex6399

    MASSIVE HAX UPGRADE for the Lake Trio

    -The Lake Guardians (Mesprit, Azelf and Uxie) are called in Japanese as Lake Gods so I think they should get Type 4 Immortality because of their state of being. -Also the Lake Trio is able to regenerate their crystals after they have been removed to make the Red Chai , so I think they could...
  13. The_real_cal_howard

    Creation Trio resistance

    It requires all three of the Lake Trio to sate one of them. A single one can't do crap to them. So the Creation Trio should resist the Lake Trio's abilities to an extent.
  14. The_real_cal_howard

    Very small Lake Trio revision

    And I mean veeeeery small. Given that they're perfectly fine after Dialga/Palkia does a bad ending reset, can casually chill in the Distortion World, can take some attacks from the CT (who casually distort causal law), predates creation, time is almost literally their older brother, and pretty...
  15. The_real_cal_howard

    Mesprit vs Fusion Zamasu

    This takes place in a different timeline. Goku did not summon Zen'ō to stop him, and he was able to progress to completion (therefore 2-C). However, Zamasu didn't kill Goku and co., or anyone else in the present (because it's my plot), and their strong emotions summoned a small pink fairy-like...
  16. The_real_cal_howard

    Some Gen 4 Legendary Revisions

    Not CT related, or at least directly. It doesn't affect them. Just those who scale. Aight, I've been thinking about the tierings of of the Lake Trio and Lunar Duo. Their tier 6 stats are unneeded. For the former, the three together are capable of equaling Dialga or Palkia, which would be either...
  17. Kevyn_S._de_Andrade

    Lucy VS The Lake Trio

  18. The_real_cal_howard

    Potential Lake Trio durability upgrade

    I'm going through my Pearl play through again, and remembered the galactic bomb, which was felt all the way in Canalave City starting from Valor Lakefront. And all this did was draw out Azelf. (P.S. A bunch of Magikarp tanked it too lol). Can someone tell me if this is above island level?
  19. Cropfist

    Regarding the Lake Guardians

    Should they really be unknown individually? Even though the idea's that they can only match the Creation Trio together, it would still make no sense for either of them to be literally infinitely weaker or slower on their own.
  20. Riolu-San

    Lake Guardian Battle Royal/Azelf vs Mesprit vs Uxie

    They will have no EVs, IVs, only natrual moves and stats, and neutral natures who wins?