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I was reading through some of the main canon Dragon Ball pages and I noticed a lot of them have Unknown listed for LS. I don't really get it, why is it so hard to figure out their lifting tiers?
(I apologize if the answer is obvious, I don't look at discussion threads and CRTs very often so I...
This is to be continued from here. And yes, I have permission to post this thread, as you will be able to see near the end of the other one.
Introduction
In the wake of the tiering system revision, performed about a year and a half ago, not only did a handful of characters have to be readjusted...
A rather simple question; can pseudo black holes be treated similarly as real ones and if so, when?
A little context on how this black hole is created with a statement: "(character) will eat anything, organic or otherwise - what it eats is highly compressed, and a sort of black hole is created...
I'm going to keep this pretty simple; I'm not entirely fond of Lifting Strength feats by pushing something as it is calculated by the mass of the object being pushed. However, it is a lot easier pushing an object than actually lifting the object due to friction. For example, a person can push a...
I always thought we concluded that punching or kicking a massive object should not count as a lifting strength feat. But the Lifting Strength page clearly states "Likewise throwing or punching an object a certain height upwards can be used as lifting feats, as these would require greater...
Okay, so here's the deal. See this?: http://prntscr.com/101s9ef
This is a tree; I determined its height to be 23.4 feet tall compared to my player character (505/124*69=281.0081 inches). Is it possible to determine how much lifting strength is needed to uproot a tree, especially given roots...
So a dude in discord is asking this
“Why do you claim that a strong character can simply ignore levitation effects by "pulling themselves" even if there are no reachable objects?”
TLDR: Why can someone with higher lifting strength ignore someone with lower lifting strength’s telekinesis...
I was wondering why DBS anime profiles still have unknown LS.
Is it due to the inconsistency in the original manga, like the 40/400 tons thing on Great Kai's planet?
Because for DBS Chou it is allowed to use feats from within (like Dai Kai and Yuzun's feats) despite it being also a sequel to...
Okay, so here's the deal. Currently, Peak Human is based on a deadlift of 501 kg; however, there is an even higher amount deadlifted. In one event, Jean-Francois Caron lifted exactly 1202 lbs, or 545.2 kg worth of Hummer tires.:
This would, in turn, set the bar higher for Peak Human. Honestly...
So a while back I made a thread questioning the Class G rating for Legends canon, resulting in it being downgraded as it apparently wasn't even using the correct evidence. With this in mind I actually started scouring through any potential lifting strength feats, and put them into one page...
Hey there. So, I was looking into Pac Man's profile. Apparently the dude is Class 1 from Ms. Pac Man pushing boulders around. Thing is, well, Ms. Pac Man's feat was never calced. I don't think it's calculable either since there's no real figure for Pac Man's official height.
One interesting...
Say, a character have a suit that enhancing all of their physical stats by 10x their previous form. Would that be able to enhance their lifting strength?
This is pretty small one so I’ll be brief.
Kamen Rider’s Thouser’s suit performance exceeded Kamen Rider Zero-One Rising Hopper by 1000x, so the LS should also scale up as well.
The character who have directly tussle and managed to goes back and forth against Thouser should scale to this too.
Like, I was making a character that, when under great stress or adrenaline rush, can lift up and move an entire mansion or skyscraper. A massive feat of strength! I don't know how to calculate that, so can someone give me a rough take on how strong a guy would be to do something like that? I...
So, there was a Class M feat done in real life: particularly a Chinese school building with four floors:
The news sources I've seen (all small) debate on how much the building weighed, with figures ranging from 7000 tons (6350.288 tonnes) to 7600 tons (6894.5984 tons), with one news source...
Continuing from this message wall thread from May.
The Attack Potency/Durability pages have had that word removed to make the ratings shorter for a while now. The Tiering System was also just updated to reflect that change.
The remaining orders of business are:
Deciding what new ratings the...
What type of Large Size would a character with "Infinite" size? I'm inclined to say it's Type 9, but I gotta ask.
Also, what tier would a character be solely based off of that? What other powers/abilities do you get by virtue of having infinite size?
As topic. Assorted lifting strength discussion thread.
Featured topics:
1. Does throwing objects at a speed generate more lifting strength than just lifting it up Olympic weight lifting style? Can a higher value of lifting strength be deduced from throwing an object at a smaller mass? Say...
I've been looking around at multiple lifting strength calculations and notice many of them use widely different percentages for a generic hollowness for robots. Like some calculations automatically assume a robot is 80% hollowness by default while others have said we use 30% hollowness by...
The current stats for Tenma Numahime seem quite a bit off, as according to this (https://i.gyazo.com/94250bcd2d0c6713ed85892fd1f741c3.png) she can hold and crush mountains.
Mountains are made up mostly of granite, which has a density of 2.75g/cm3.
The Volume of a Cone is 1/3 (pi)r^2h [I...
The calc in the verse page links to a sandbox where the calc isn't at. This has an easy solution by using the calc on Ruby Rose's page which seems to be the same calc (although the profile links to the sandbox too).
The calc seems to have been accepted but not on the same end that it's listed...
Let's say Char.A is 3-A, and the physical attack is 3-A. Would Char.B blocking it without getting pushed back or knocked down warrant Char.B getting Universal lifting strength?
BOTW Link's profile says he has Class 100 lifting strength. Except, he doesn't.
There's several objects in the game that definitively debunk this.
1.) Boulders. If you want to test this out in-game, there are some large boulders on the way to Zora's Domain. You can push them, but you can't...
Sorry if a silly question. I was wondering about something. I recently found these calcs which include a throwing feat and a Telekinesis feat. The results are given in AP, but given that throwing and Telekinesis can be used for lifting strength I was wondering if a conversion could be made with...
I'm asking this because Atomsk's profile says he can steal entire stellar systems, which is true, since that's because of his skilled use of his N.O. channel (which is portal creation), and it uses it as a justification for 4-B.
Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vc0V4uLZxqM To be exact, Austin calc'd it as 136,586,969.32 kg
This feat is from Star Wars Jedi Fallen Order.
Currently, Darth Vader's Disney Canon key's Lifting Strength via Force/Telekinesis is: Class M with telekinesis (Far more powerful than Kanan...
So apparently, everyone gets Class 100 because of a gif featuring a plane being pulled.: https://gfycat.com/pleasantwelltodoamericanindianhorse
There's a huge problem with that if you ask me. First of all, if you really take a good look at the gif itself, you can see that the chain was made out...
Black Widow should be at least Class 5 for restraining an Ultron Sentry (who can lift a car with a single arm).
Everyone who scales to her should also be upgraded
She can lift and swing a giant battle axe (I believe AKM said it was 137 kg?) at subsonic speeds. There's no way she's just Athletic Human.
Scaling from a felling axe which is around 3-5 lbs. (which is around the heaviest a regular human can handle in a full swing), that means she's around 60x...
Heya. So... I was looking at this again. According to the lifting strength page, this is how Stellar is listed.:
Stellar: 2x10^29 to ? kg (The mass of a smaller star up to a solar system)
Here's the thing. The combined mass of our solar system, which we have always used as a reference for...
The episode where Feedback absorbed the Anihilaarg and contained it, would that be universal lifting strength since he was literally holding an energy output that could create/destroy an entire universe?
He's currently At least Class 5, likely much higher with symbiote
In S1 E8, while in the black suit Spider-Man Lifts up the back half of a Fire truckwithout much trouble. Fire truck weight varies a lot of course but the most common weight I see when looking it up is around 35,000 lbs/17.5 Tons...