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attack potency

  1. ZoroNotZolo

    Question About Psykos

    Quick question: Is the 7-B Key for Psykos baseline, or does she scale to someone else? I wanted to know so I could get an idea of her AP for future Versus Threads.
  2. JustANormalPerson01

    Luffy's NLF

    I saw people that calims "Luffy is immune to hits so not even characters with an extreme AP adventage such as Saitama or Goku can't affect him with punches" To what extent is this true? Does Luffy's physiology really make him able to withstand attacks of a level higher than his conventional...
  3. KingTempest

    A new Fallacy

    Brought up in this thread. An additional fallacy that isn't technically a logical fallacy, but when it comes to powerscaling and such, it's required. 52. Area of Effect Fallacy This is when someone uses a Destructive Capacity feat to counter an Attack Potency feat. Possible Examples: "The...
  4. Flashlight237

    How Strong Is Lightning, Really?

    Hey there. So, it is generally believed that lightning contains 1 to 5 billion joules of energy (VBW uses a figure of 1.6 gigajoules). If that's the case, why is it that the best AP feat lightning can do is 9-B, in that case, breaking trees?: I mean it could be 9-A if the tree was big enough...
  5. StrymULTRA

    New value for baseline 3-A

    Basically it was found that the Universe in its entirely is confirmed being at least of 7e12 LYs in diameter, shouldn't we use this instead of just the observable universe?
  6. StrymULTRA

    2-C to 2-A standards, the return

    Finally I've returned after some pause, and I want to address an issue I noticed time ago. There are examples of characters who are 2-B because of scalings from 2-C characters, like Takion or Asriel Dreemurr, but there are also ones as Bobobo-bo Bo-bobo or Grand Priest, who are extremely above...
  7. Flashlight237

    Bulma Question

    Hey there. So, I saw that Bulma is 9-C through technology: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Bulma Thing is, well... Wasn't the best thing she fought off with technology an elephant-sized crab on Namek or something? Just checking if anyone remembered that. Edit: Nevermind! Misremembered the...
  8. XitSign

    Puzzle and Dragons CRT 2: High-Tier Upgrades

    Alternate Title: "Xit is an idiot and this should've just been one big CRT" Lets tackle everything else important for cleaning up PAD and getting it up to date. 1. Rarity Rating But first, a quick explanation about PAD's rarity system and why we currently use it for scaling, and why we should...
  9. LordGriffin1000

    How much energy is this?

    If I absorbed the entire power supply of an average city. How much energy would I have in terms of AP?.
  10. RoRl62

    Discrepancy about AP needed to destroy skyscrapers.

    Since I'm new here, I wanted to make sure I knew all the rules and terms and whatnot before I actually posted or changed anything major. While looking over the various policy pages, I noticed a rather blatant discrepancy regarding skyscrapers. In the Tiering System page, High 8-C, or Large...
  11. Nicetoderp

    AP and LS for rip off a car’s door?

    Basically this (6:08)
  12. RoRl62

    Attack Pottency Questions about Multiple Bodies and Teleportation

    So I have a few questions about attack potency 1. If a character has an attack that is 8-C using a single body, but can use 5,000 seperate bodies to launch that attack at the same time, would that attack still be considered 8-C or would it be higher? 2. Can teleportation be considered an...
  13. LordGriffin1000

    Removing 4-A rating for McGee (Sort and Simple)

    This was another thread I was suppose to do but forgot. Anyway it's pretty simple/straightforward. We do not treat Existence Erasure as AP so McGee should have his 4-A/Multi-Solar System rating removed. He'll keep his interstellar range since his hiccups erased everything which would include...
  14. LordGriffin1000

    Okage: Shadow King Tier/AP Revision

    High 4-C Downgrade After looking over the context of Beiloune's statement about creating the world. I don't think it was taken literally, but more as a he made it the way it is by classifying it's laws and people. https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:LordGriffin1000/Okage_Stuff Above is a...
  15. MeOrU

    What happens if an author knows how to power scale?

    Yea question is the title. If a writer knows how to power scale does that mean power scaling the characters in that work of fiction becomes irrelevant if the author has already done it? Could the author potentially make every high level character in that work of fiction tier 0? Just some...
  16. DaSmileKat

    Is Human level really human level?

    I've looked at several sources about the average human running speed, and they aren't consistent, but I found that the average human should be able to run 100m in 15 seconds. That's 6.6666m/s. The average human weighs 62kg, so when sprinting, he/she have 1/2*62*6.6666*6.6666=1378 joules of KE...
  17. Oliver_de_jesus

    Characters that have taken a specific hax to the next level.(New Forum Edition!)

    I don't know how to explain the title, but the topic is about characters who have fully exploited a hax, for example, Maltruant's time manipulation. Rules: Plot, RW and magic does not count due to how variable the wattage itself is. More power doesn't count as Higher D's hax, just versatility...
  18. LordGriffin1000

    Danny Phantom Revisions Part 1 (Ghostly Wail)

    Danny's Ghostly Wail rating should be downgraded. The move may have power behind it but it clearly is more than just force. In The Ultimate Enemy we see the ghostly wail has different levels of potency and effects. Dan used it multiple times and it went from shaking the amity park and messing...
  19. YmTheSuper

    A way to know which AP is needed to beat each Regenerationn?

    Is there a way to know what AP is needed to beat each type of Regenerationn. Like what AP is needed to beat a character with High-Mid regen or a character with Low-High regen. And does AP matter much to beat Mid and High Regenerationn types?
  20. DeathstroketheHedgehog

    Possible MAJOR DC Calc Recheck?

    [[1]] ^ The feat is about Flash's fist obtaining the mass of a White Dwarf Star. According to the calculation, the assumption is that Flash's hand weighs 5 kg (roughly 11 pounds)... Which is really heavy for a hand. From what I googled, male hands are 0.575% of one's body weight, and Flash's...
  21. Zamasu_Chan

    What makes a character infinite^infinite 2-A?

    I would like an in-depth response.
  22. LordGriffin1000

    How powerful is the Sunny Day move?

    I wanted to know how powerful the move Sunny Day from Pokémo is, can you even calc it? Also I'm not trying to upgrade/downgrade pokemon, I'm just wondering how strong is sunny day.
  23. TartaChocholate

    Do we have calcs for destroying a Galaxy?

    I've looked around, but I've found mostly stuff dealing with Solar Systems, Multiple Solar Systems and such. Do we have calculations for the destruction of a Galaxy. Doesn't matter the type of destruction or the specific Galaxy, it's mostly for reference. Thanks in advance!
  24. DeathstroketheHedgehog

    High 4-C is a kinda weird tier

    It is far too late to be looking for a sitewide revision, so I'm just leaving this up to discussion. Thing is, (disclaimer, as far as I'm aware) not a lot of verses actually use "Large stars". It's far more likely to run into supernova feats than it. Wouldn't it make more sense for High 4-C to...
  25. Jasonsith

    Assorted Lifting Strength Discussion Thread

    As topic. Assorted lifting strength discussion thread. Featured topics: 1. Does throwing objects at a speed generate more lifting strength than just lifting it up Olympic weight lifting style? Can a higher value of lifting strength be deduced from throwing an object at a smaller mass? Say...
  26. Rodri_"Dante"

    Getting AP from a laser?

    Say, certain character uses a laser to attack. The laser itself has no feats except for harming other characters, but it's width can be measured.
  27. DarkDragonMedeus

    Freezing and Temperature Feats Continued Again

    Continued from here or saved here. It has been agreed universally by staff that freezing and heating feats will continue to be treated interchangeably since it's the exact same feat but in the opposite direction. But there are other users who want to continue derailing that topic much further...
  28. StrymULTRA

    General 4-A characters upgrade

    Saw this accepted calc and still was wondering why it's not applied with characters who can create pocket dimension with countless stars, that I always see as treated as baseline 4-A while it's obviously untrue. Characters I know that would scale are: -Heaven Ascension DIO and Jotaro Kujo...
  29. Zamasu_Chan

    Quick 3-B question

    How far away from 3-A is 3-B+?
  30. LordTracer

    Canis Major

    Is there a calc, or could somebody calc, the AP someone would get for destroying the Canis Major constellation?
  31. Damage3245

    Upscaling

    Prompted by a recent revision thread for Naruto and a recent thread for upscaling characters to have the + mark on their ratings, I've come to realize that we don't actually have any defined rules anywhere for upscaling characters. This is kind of important because without rules we just have...
  32. Apex_Predator_GX

    Shook the universe

    Which Tier Is a character able to shook the entre universe?
  33. DeathstroketheHedgehog

    Star Quake Question

    In the page for Star Quakes, it is noted to be "potentially Solar System level (if it was a magnitude of 32 on the Richter scale, it should have been equivalent to 6.3×1052 Joules in total)", which is 630 MegaFoe. However, the GBE for a neutron star is faaaaaaaaaaaar lower than that, only...
  34. Lord_Zeref_Dragneel

    Strongest tier 0 currently

    Is it still Azathoth?
  35. SonicMDC

    The attack potency for Large Star Level+

    If I'm using the + symbol correctly, then would the attack potency needed to be at Large Star Level+ range from (2.72480258*10^35 tons of TNT to 5.442*10^35 tons of TNT)?
  36. Oliver_de_jesus

    Oliver edition; Haxy 2A tournament of power

    Well, I think I will try to make a support after many characters were reviewed and the death of the previous tournament, so here are the rules: 1.2 for tickets per person. And let's try to get away from the battles of the same series. (There may be some exceptions if characters never fight or...
  37. Firephoenixearl

    New calc for GetBackers

    This would apply to mid series GetBackers (so it would replace the current 8-B). The calc is already done in the Narutoforums, i want a calc group member to check if the calc is correct.
  38. Apex_Predator_GX

    Tier for this feat

    If a character is capable of turn into dark all the stars in the sky, the Sun and the Moon. Wha level is that feat?
  39. ZoroNotZolo

    How Strong Is This? (Yes, It's Back)

    OK. So, I want to have a certain feat occur in a project I'm working on. If Character A punches Character B from Earth to the Andromeda Galaxy, and Character B arrives there in 10 seconds, how strong would that make Character A? In retrospect, that sounded like an Algebra question lol btw...
  40. Psychomaster35

    Transmutation=AP?

    Can you get AP from Transmutation? Lets say X Character turned a sun into another object, like a baseball. Would that be considered Star level, or only a range feat?
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