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abstract existence

  1. Aetheric Pariah

    Abstract Concepts

    How powerful is being a concept against characters who don't have conceptual manipulation? Is it a straight up stomp or can a character without conceptual manipulation beat a concept through sheer hax?

  2. Conflictual Requierment for Abstract Existence

    Well, i don't want to spend a lot of time into this since i don't care as a whole those kind of stuff so i'll be bref: There in this thread some discussion about where all this stuff started, according to the discussion, it seem that there is some conflictual requierement for being a Type 1...
  3. JoshSSJGod

    Question about Abstract Existence

    I am curious about something. The page for Abstract Existence states "Abstract Existence is the ability to embody an abstraction, such as a concept, thought, or an information". What exactly does being the embodiment of information mean? Could it be something like an A.I? Or is it something...
  4. Elizhaa

    Conceptual Manipulation adjustment

    Inspired from this thread: Soul Manipulation Adjustment This thread is on updating the Conceptual Manipulation page like the other thread did with the Soul Manipulation's. Currently, Conceptual Manipulation is roughly described as Conceptual Manipulation is the ability to manipulate, create...
    • Elizhaa
    • Thread
    • abstract existence conceptual manipulation non-physical interaction
    • Replies: 20
    • Forum: Content Revision
  5. Amexim

    Type 3 Ab. Exist. is a thing, but it's less AE and more Avatar/Smurf existence...

    https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/3028045?useskin=oasis#157 <———- this thread is where I and I think (correct me if I am wrong) Ant noticed that characters can be embodiments of concepts [and other stuff] without being literal ideas (type 1) or existing as a part of ideas or something (whatever...
  6. Elizhaa

    Rise of Humanity Abstract Existence Type updated

    From this thread, Abstract Existence Type 3 was removed. So, this thread is made to decide whether abstract existence should be removed from the verse or revised to be another type. Currently, I think I think the proper option would be removing Abstract Existence Type 3.
  7. ShivaShakti

    Abstract Existence and Nonexistent Physiology

    So I was thinking about this for a while but basically If a character can hit a Type 1 abstract, can they hit Type 2 nonexistents? Type 2 NPE is a conceptual Nonexistence, but if you can hit a concept itself would that qualify for hitting Type 2 NPE? I'm asking this because from what i've...
  8. TheImagineBreaker121212

    Updating The Currently Outdated Conceptual Manipulation Page?

    so this idea cam fro Ultima Reality's comment "Ultima Reality wrote: That page is ostensibly outdated in relation to the current Tiering System; At the very least we should start using different terminology from "False" and "True" Platonic Concepts, since Platonism is one of those philosophies...
  9. Iapitus_The_Impaler

    Touhou Gods Contradiction

    I'll try to be brief. Perhaps it is something missing from the profiles, but as they stand, the profiles for the Touhou Gods have basically all of them as Type 1 Abstracts, beings who exist and concepts and ideas, yet are also stated to precede the existence of conception. How does this work? If...
  10. Oliver_de_jesus

    Question about existence and concepts

    Well, character A has an object that allows him to totally control a facet of existence, for example souls. then you could say that this object has Conceptual Manipulation? (if so it would be type 4 to 3 or 2?)
  11. Gewsbumpz_dude

    Living Shadows

    Woould being a living shadow grant non-existence physiology or at least non-corporeality?. Since they lack an actual physical form. I've been wondering about this question and I would like some answers from people that know this sort of thing more then me. Side Question: Would being a being...
  12. Sir_Marvulous

    Selective Abstract Existence

    Would 'Selective Abstract Existence' be one of the three types? I was wondering this, so I analyzed type and noticed that it contradicts the qualification(s) for Type 1—lacking a true physical form. To me, it's likely not Type 2 either. Seems like it would be Type 3 since characters with...
  13. Infera28

    about type 2 and 3 abstract existence

    everyone with type 2 and 3 abstract existence has conceptual attacks and is conceptual in nature? or only type 1 has conceptual attacks? according to google embodiment is "a tangible or visible form of an idea, quality, or feeling" so they are tangible concepts and as result conceptual in nature?
  14. Oliver_de_jesus

    galactus and its abstract existence type 1

    galactus and its abstract existence type 1 well according to the page of abstract existence type 1 Exists purely as an abstraction. These characters lack a true physical form, and affecting them requires the ability to affect directly the abstraction itself, because eventual physical...
  15. Oliver_de_jesus

    Abstract existence vs información hax and regeneratión negation

    Can an abstract existence Type 1 be affected without conceptual manipulation that such with a high level of hax information? and the negation of Mid-Godly Regenerationn based on reconstructing its concept, can it null abstract existence type 2?
  16. Oliver_de_jesus

    Can type 4 conceptual manipulation affect abstract beings type 1 that are fundamental?

    Can?
  17. Infera28

    embodiment of an abstract idea

    embodiments of abstract ideas have abstract existence? like embodiment of life or death? of in order to having abstract existence they must be abstract idea itself?
  18. LordGriffin1000

    Type 1 or Type 2 Abstract Existance?

    Type 1: Exists purely as an abstraction. These characters lack a true physical form, and affecting them requires the ability to affect directly the abstraction itself, because eventual physical manifestations are merely avatars. Type 2: Embodies an abstraction, and can be resurrected or...
  19. ApiesDeathbyLazors

    What, if anything, does this origin story grant this character

    This is the origin story for Coyote from Gunnerkrigg Court as told by Coyote. I was talking to someone on discord about it and they said it possibly meant he had Abstract Existence, but I'd like to hear what others have to say about it. Relevent Pages: 1068, 1069, 1070, 1071, 1072, 1073
  20. Qliphoth_Bacikal

    Abstract Existence Questions

    If I understand this right, Type 1 AE means you're purely an abstract being while Type 2 grants you Type 3 and 8 Immortality and/or Regenerationn of it right? Also Type 1 AE doesn't give you Regenerationn either, no? And is it also possible for one to have more than one type of AE, like get...
  21. The_Prince_of_Counters

    Bleach - Mimihagi and acausality

    I'm aware that Mimihagi having Abstract Existence was rejected due to the current wording had to be redone. However i believe i found an ability that fits Mimihagi even more than Abstract Existence would. That being acausality type 2 for reasons I'll get into. But first lets examine the current...
  22. SSJRyu1

    Infinite Zamasu Abstract existence and Concept manipulation

    So it's stated Zamasu not only merged with the Universe, but became "one with Justice and Order itself". https://imgur.com/a/fvwN96U I think this could qualify him for Abstract existance by being the concepts of order and of Justice themselves. I also think he could get Concept manipulation...
    • SSJRyu1
    • Thread
    • abstract existence conceptual manipulation dragon ball fusion zamasu
    • Replies: 35
    • Forum: Content Revision
  23. Wokistan

    An issue with Abstract Existence

    Born out of this thread. Should read it (or at least the later parts of it) before contributing to this. Currently, Abstract Existence type 3 is defined as such: Type 3: Embodies an abstraction, but the destruction of the former isn't needed in order to destroy or affect them. These...
  24. Iamunanimousinthat

    Characters made from Abstract material.

    I'm making this thread because I think our abstract existence page is lacking. There needs to be an inclusion or at least a 4th type of abstraction for characters whom are made from abstract material. Characters that are made from abstract material. These characters don't embody a specific...
  25. ABoogieYesSir

    Non-Physical Interaction on Abstract Existence

    Can someone with Non-Physical Interaction hurt an Abstract Existence Type 1?
  26. LightSShinning

    Does being Abstract Existence(type 1) automatic grant you Self-Sustenance(type 1&2)?

    Since being Abstract (type1) you basically a living concept so does that mean you don't need to eat or breath by default? or you need feat to prove that?
  27. MicDaniel

    Causality or Fate Manipulation.

    Can these two thing affect beings with abstract existence?
  28. Iamunanimousinthat

    Small additions to Queen Metalia's profile?

    I am creating this thread to inquire about adding these two abilities to Queen Metalia's Profile: Abstract Existence (type 1) Nonexistent Physiology (type 1) based on this description of her https://gallery.missdream.org/albums/scanlation_smoon/smoon_act09/032.jpg "...an...
  29. Agnaa

    Two Concept Questions

    My first question is, what type of concept manipulation is a concept which governs all objects under it in reality, but where the concept itself is altered itself by the perception of sentient beings? This is specifically in reference to aberrations in the Monogatari series. "Well...
  30. RotofBots

    Abstract Existence or Nonexistent Physiology?

    https://imgur.com/a/nkTHw3u In a game I'm currently playing, they describe the enemies as possibilities that don't exist. On the Abstract Existence page, it states that a possibility is a form of abstraction so I am asking if they are Abstract or Nonexistent.
  31. Elizio33

    Are the Monitor, Anti-Monitor and Barbatos abstract?

    The Monitor, the Anti-Monitor and Barbatos are the living embodiment of matter and antimatter and dark matter? If yes, they should have Abstract Existence (Type 3) i think. Thank you
  32. Andytrenom

    What would this be?

    This isn't for a verse I'm seriously planning on adding, but is still something I've been curious about lately. Let's say, there's a character who doesn't exist in reality but only in the imagination of an individual. Despite this, the imaginary fellow has basically his own free will and has...
  33. The_Tetromino_King

    Shouldn't all abstract or characters that has avatars have type 9 immo?

    Example in marvel where Multi eternity is boundless multiverse whom contains transfite boundless universal eternites. same is for other abstract in marvel
  34. Lancer45Man

    Can Non-Existence Erasure Bypass Abstract Existence????

    So I've been thinking lately, can someone with Non-Existence erasure like say, Lavos, affect someone who exists as nothing more than an Abstract Concept, like say Madoka Kaname????
  35. Lancer45Man

    Re:Creators Revision Thread PART 2

    So it's time. Altair needs some few additional upgrades to her arsenal as she seems to be lacking them as well as the speed and tier and by extension, Sirius too. First of all, her Speed would be At Least Hypersonic for being way faster than all the Characters even in a casual state with them...
  36. Kaltias

    Rewriting the Abstract Existence page pt.2

    Continued from this thread which died. This is my draft based on the previous discussion. It's mostly complete, but it needs some examples for type 3, and i need some help with the wording for this: Also, if we are regrouping various kinds of abstracts (ideas, concepts, possibilities etc)...
  37. LordGriffin1000

    Abstract Existence for True Dark Genie?

    I was wondering, does the True Dark Genie qualify for Abstract Existence?. He's Non-Corporeal, He's stated to be the embodiment of pure negative energy, and is stated by the Fariy King to be nothing but darkness. He's immortality is reliant not just Seda's hate but states himself that so long...
  38. Zenkaibattery1

    Immortality (Type 8) and Abstract Existence

    Does being an abstract being automatically grant Immortality (Type 8- reliant on a concept)?
  39. Tman766

    Mindhax vs Abstract Existence

    I've been bothered by this for quite some time. Can regular mindhax work on beings who are abstract?? Like for example can Nocturne's mindhax work against someone like Diablo (Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken) ????
  40. PaChi2

    Abstract Existence vs The World

    What does Abstract Existence protect from? Do you need feats of conceptual manipulation to affect an Abstract? Or anyone can affect them? Is their non-corporeality different from the usual non-corporeality? Thoughts?
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