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  1. SuperAPM

    Marvel Comics: Cable Revision/Upgrade

    This is pretty furrow and well explained, good job on this. I'm surpised he's only listed as High 6-C actually, what happened to his Star Extinguishing statement?
  2. SuperAPM

    Thor Lifting Strength Upgrade

    I remember Herc have a similar feat where he held up all of Olympus for an extended period of time, was he at Base or Skyfather level at the time?
  3. SuperAPM

    Thor Lifting Strength Upgrade

    Actually if it's an absolute peak rating it probably is best to give him a tier he more commonly operates at, so that's fair
  4. SuperAPM

    Thor Lifting Strength Upgrade

    To be honest I'm surprised it took this long for the possibility of Base Thor's peak being up to Tier 2 to be brought up. I'm good with simply rating him from his lowest (HIgh 6-C) to highest (*2-C) ranking.
  5. SuperAPM

    Supergirl Rework

    I recall statements about Kara being more powerful than her cousin were in actuality referring to her metabolism moreso than power level, in that she processed solar radiation faster than Clark making her stronger for a short period but meaning she burnt through her reserves faster. Either way...
  6. SuperAPM

    Nekron no longer bad?!?! (DC Comics Nekron rework and potential Captain Atom upgrade)

    Guess you'll need to make another thread to get Marvel and DC's respective Universes accepted as Infinite unfortunately.
  7. SuperAPM

    Nekron no longer bad?!?! (DC Comics Nekron rework and potential Captain Atom upgrade)

    Seems it's accepted as finite for Marvel at least with regards to AP as well considering Thors and presumably other Heralds pages accepts Universe Shaking feats as legitimate and they're only rated as 3-C currently instead of High 3-A as those feats would suggest.
  8. SuperAPM

    Thanos and Adam Warlock Keys CRT

    Oh that's my bad I didn't register that we were including Warlocks Soul Gem key in that list (or that that was even a seperate key from base 😨)
  9. SuperAPM

    Thanos and Adam Warlock Keys CRT

    My issue isn't with the amount of keys so much as it is with the fact that we're indexing an excessive amount of them for something that does not represent their individual capabilities whether through natural abilites or standard equipment, but instead via one off power ups induced by an...
  10. SuperAPM

    Nekron no longer bad?!?! (DC Comics Nekron rework and potential Captain Atom upgrade)

    Looks good to me so far
  11. SuperAPM

    Thanos and Adam Warlock Keys CRT

    I'm personally in favour of Option 1
  12. SuperAPM

    Tiny Thanos upgrade

    I find it weird that we don't only list Thanos' standard abilities and equipment on his page and just link to the one off special items he's used in the past instead, but since this is how we do it I'm fine adding this under a special segment of his page.
  13. SuperAPM

    Marvel Comics Herald Tiers Upgrade to 3-C

    It takes up a sizeable chunk of the Andromeda Galaxy...... Do with that what you will I guess.....
  14. SuperAPM

    Marvel Comics Herald Tiers Upgrade to 3-C

    Then Calc Surfer's Black Hole Feat Right Now 👿👿👿
  15. SuperAPM

    Marvel Comics Herald Tiers Upgrade to 3-C

    Also please learn how to make one comment at a time Teezer
  16. SuperAPM

    Marvel Comics Herald Tiers Upgrade to 3-C

    Yeh it's either going to be those feats or Surfer's Black Hole feat to base it all off of. Will we return to peak Heralds all scaling off of Surfer alone? 👺👺👺
  17. SuperAPM

    Marvel Comics Herald Tiers Upgrade to 3-C

    It should but I think we're deciding on which universe size to use. Personally I'm in favour of the High 3-A end if what Confluctor says is true, but I don't care either way.
  18. SuperAPM

    Marvel Comics Herald Tiers Upgrade to 3-C

    Bad 👿
  19. SuperAPM

    Marvel Comics Herald Tiers Upgrade to 3-C

    👀 👄
  20. SuperAPM

    Marvel Comics Herald Tiers Upgrade to 3-C

    Well, the problem is that getting the specific size of the universe is important since we're talking about feats that specifically involve the entire universe. If the MU is consistently portrayed as being Infinite in size as you say, then we're talking about High 3-A upgrades instead of what's...
  21. SuperAPM

    Marvel Comics Herald Tiers Upgrade to 3-C

    No, one out of two statements are recent additions. The first statement came out in the 60's apparently written by Stan Lee, as you can see here:
  22. SuperAPM

    Marvel Comics Herald Tiers Upgrade to 3-C

    Ok we should use the Trillion Light Year statement for now as a minimum then unless the Infinite Sized statements prove to be more definitive in description, or any contradictory evidence pops in to say otherwise. It'd be one thing to say this if you had scans that contradicted the one's we're...
  23. SuperAPM

    Marvel Comics Herald Tiers Upgrade to 3-C

    👀 👄 🙏
  24. SuperAPM

    Marvel Comics Herald Tiers Upgrade to 3-C

    😏😏😏
  25. SuperAPM

    Marvel Comics Herald Tiers Upgrade to 3-C

    The scan with the Trillion Light Year Statement comes from a character that was wielding the Starbrand at the time who states on panel that he can literally "feel" the activities of entire planets "a trillion light-years away" i.e. this is being stated by someone with cosmic awareness that can...
  26. SuperAPM

    Marvel Comics Herald Tiers Upgrade to 3-C

    I'm against that sort of indexing exactly for this reason, but you'd also end up creating far more problems than you'd ever hope to fix as a result. For instance, what reason would we have to disregard far higher tiers for Spiderman if we can simply hand wave it away as being a different writers...
  27. SuperAPM

    Marvel Comics Herald Tiers Upgrade to 3-C

    The results would still be 4-A for the record, it'd just be at a higher value.
  28. SuperAPM

    Marvel Comics Herald Tiers Upgrade to 3-C

    I haven't been as active lately so I was not aware that was a thing that was being considered as a form of "indexing" here. If that's the case then I fully disagree with it and that's all I'll say for now.
  29. SuperAPM

    Marvel Comics Herald Tiers Upgrade to 3-C

    If we're really getting this pedantic about "muh comic eras" the Jane Foster feat still came out in 2017, so. Although looking at it Kulf already accounted for the Trillion Light Year sized universe as a high end and got 24 ExaFoe which is about...... half of baseline 3-C (I think that's how...
  30. SuperAPM

    Marvel Comics Herald Tiers Upgrade to 3-C

    I don't know why we're supposed to assume the marvel universe canonically shifts in size to such a dramatic degree just because they're supervised by different writers throughout the years......
  31. SuperAPM

    Marvel Comics Herald Tiers Upgrade to 3-C

    Shaking a universe as large as ours is 4-A, it's where most of the evidence for a 4-A rating is coming from here. But now that I think about it if those statements that put the marvel universe at a Trillion Light Years are true that'd probably get the results up to 3-C instead.
  32. SuperAPM

    Marvel Comics Herald Tiers Upgrade to 3-C

    Wait a minute, I'm pretty sure a feat like that is way higher than what it's being given credit to. At the very least it's good supporting evidence for 4-A and might actually be a galaxy level feat, I would suggest figuring out a way to calculate that properly as soon as possible.
  33. SuperAPM

    Marvel Comics Herald Tiers Upgrade to 3-C

    I don't think anyone wants to bother with the clutter that "at least X Tier, possibly Y Tier" creates and would likely opt out for one or the other.
  34. SuperAPM

    Marvel Comics Herald Tiers Upgrade to 3-C

    By a tally I guess. For my vote I'll go with 4-A (although I do prefer 3-C mind you) due to having more solid and definitve evidence
  35. SuperAPM

    Marvel Comics Herald Tiers Upgrade to 3-C

    Every character that is rated as 4-B currently would be upgraded to whatever tier is agreed upon. There will likely be some revisions in that regard after the fact for characters that shouldn't be put at that level but for the time being every 4-B would be affected since they all scale...
  36. SuperAPM

    Marvel Comics Herald Tiers Upgrade to 3-C

    Unless there's context in the feat itself that suggests he's supposed to be galaxy level because of it, creating a galaxy by itself is not a 3-C feat.
  37. SuperAPM

    Marvel Comics Herald Tiers Upgrade to 3-C

    I'm less concerned about how many feats there are overall so much as I am concerned with the validity of the feats in question. I might need to look over all of them again but it seems every mention of "Galaxy Busting" so far has no description on the timeframe of such a feat nor the amount of...
  38. SuperAPM

    Marvel Comics Herald Tiers Upgrade to 3-C

    Define "countless"
  39. SuperAPM

    Marvel Comics Herald Tiers Upgrade to 3-C

    I'd be hesitant of this if we were just talking about the storm itself, but the winds themselves have been described as galaxy ruiners that seep out through the void and are even able to achieve universal area of effect, so that should be fine.
  40. SuperAPM

    Marvel Comics Herald Tiers Upgrade to 3-C

    Assuming each of the nine realms such as Jotenheim in that scan is universe sized, as I've been told. If they're just planet sized then it is just 3-C.
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