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God, I totally forgot about VS Battles wiki. Been a couple years, huh? But yeah...
Just gonna say this. I've seen a lot of threats downplaying Xehanort to below the Foretellers, and I REALLY...REALLY want to know why.
Let me do it for you: 10,000 + 2,000 = 12,000 (You gotta add these).
Then, you have to multiply this by the KK boost your birthday's in (Like 12,000 times 21 or something like that).
And THEN times that by the form multiplier your dice rolled on. I highly doubt you got 11 Billion.
People that are stronger than the creator of the dream, Freya. This includes Tyr, Thorim, Lokin, The Old Gods (All of them), The Lich King, Deathwing (Who shook the dream to its very core and was about to destroy it), The Avatar of Sargeras, Kil'jaeden, Archimonde, Sargeras, the Pantheon, and...
Continuation of the other thread. This time, I want no strawmans, no arguments, and an actual conversation that holds some decent logic for once, please.
I decided to do the number generator as well, and I was lucky enough to get UI (Complete)...
So, (Don't add this to the official one pls) 10,000 + 12,000 x29= 638,000 times 760,000,000,000...
It'd be 484,880,000,000,000,000 (Don't take this into account, cause on another calculator, I had 17...
Most of the feats people base off seem to be more external and well known, even though there are a TON of feats in WoW that can scale characters far beyond the tier they're placed in.
Hate to necro any kind of thread here, but you could argue an outerversal tier for Sargeras. Hell, you can argue that for a lot of WC Characters. Most of the basis of that can be focused on just the Emerald Dream alone, which is comprised of Infinite Layers, and is above Concepts, and that was...
Dude, do you not know the pure difference between Blue and U.I? Also, it's U.I, not MUI.
It was purely stated in many scans that U.I Omen 3 Goku was possibly above Beerus' level. Something that can be PROVEN since he was handling an Episode 129 Jiren, who was stronger than his Episodes 122-127...
Here's the thing: Broly's power is still new. He's strong, but he hasn't adapted to is yet, nor has he managed to utilize it in full capacity. Meaning, he's not controlled, nor skilled in his SSJ form (Let alone FP).
U.I Goku's basically both amazing Power, Speed, Dodge, Intellect, Stamina...
So...
SSJ Gogeta clashes with SSJ Broly, collapses the Universe unintentionally around them, only to have them THEN teleported into a CG Dimension, where they duke it out. And then, once Gogeta turns Blue and once Broly goes FP, they continue to trash MULTIPLE DIMENSIONS AND PLANES UNTIL...
Then again, that's heroes. Remember, they also have Xeno SSJ4 Vegito above CC Vegito Blue KKx20.
And that itself is strange, considering that CC Blue Goku's a whole other level about SSJ4 Xeno Goku in the manga.
"Goku, Vegeta and Broly fight, which causes a tear in reality and that's how it ends up in another dimension."
Fairly certain this happens once Gogeta turns SSJ, and attacks SSJ Broly. But, whatever.
Honestly, I just wanna see their fight go all Dimensional, and shit. I mean, it's not really impossible, since Broly's >>>> Jiren, who shook the Realm of Void with his mere presence, while also being above Time itself at around less than 10% power.
And that Jiren's above the Gods, who are...
Beerus has stated this way more than once, already. If it doesn't involve a god. Then he's not going to bother.
The whole dimension thing with Goku/Vegeta happened because of 2 reasons:
1. Cause Beerus wanted some peace and quiet.
And 2. To train Goku/Vegeta a little more about Ki control...
Whis can't aid Goku in the battle, though. He and Beerus are 100% likely going to be on the sidelines throughout all of this.
I want this "Dimensional feat" to be pure power based. Meaning, Broly and Goku clash, and it creates a whole new Dimension or some shit like that.
They're only that way because "YAMOSHI'S SPIRIT" decided to find a savior, a Super Saiyan God. So, when the SSG finally appeared, his spirit could allign itself to the divine Saiyan and his power. This is likely why Goku "heard" the Super Saiyan Gods power speaking to him.